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[KMS] Class revamp, AGAIN! - Combattente - 2011-10-13
Mario Wrote:If anyone doesn't already know it says in korean that the pirate/thief revamp will be the biggest. The entire job/system on how they work will be changed. Only thing that will stay the same are the job names.
-I might have been ninja'd but oh well.
Wow.. really?? What about the other Adventurer jobs?? I hope there'll be BIG changes for those, too.. and, why not, a more interesting storyline for them? Would be cool to have quests such as Demon Slayer's for them. Or a new plot for them.
That said, I can't really wait for these new changes. I really wonder what we'll end up getting!
[KMS] Class revamp, AGAIN! - Jerry-Boyle - 2011-10-13
*Waits for Thief+Pirate to receive one minor update then ignored for another few months* :p
I have no idea what they could do for Evans in this but to nerf us down. Legend update was all pros for usO.o
[KMS] Class revamp, AGAIN! - Viaje - 2011-10-13
xJunkun Wrote:They better not mess up buccaneers ~. Why would thy change the system all it needs is an upgrade.Because they can and it's free.
:f6:
Seriously though, Buccs are already messed up, hence people peaching that they should change.
I just hope invincible frames fly out the window and the transformation animation goes too.
Abysseon Wrote:Is the same thing happening for the other revamps or will they just consist of basic skill changes?Why would they?
Obviously, the reason they didn't revamp Thieves and Pirates with the other Adventurers is that they just plain couldn't figure out what to do with them.
Apparently, after months of debate, their solution is to start over.
Combattente Wrote:Wow.. really?? What about the other Adventurer jobs?? I hope there'll be BIG changes for those, too.. and, why not, a more interesting storyline for them? Would be cool to have quests such as Demon Slayer's for them. Or a new plot for them.Unless Nexon has changed its stance, Adventurers are meant to be go-it-their-own. Therefore, there's unlikely to be any plot they're strictly tied to.
That said, I can't really wait for these new changes. I really wonder what we'll end up getting!
Either way, you're talking storyline and quests when the focus here is skills.
Jerry-Boyle Wrote:*Waits for Thief+Pirate to receive one minor update then ignored for another few months* :pYeah, because third place in mages equals way overpowered.
I have no idea what they could do for Evans in this but to nerf us down. Legend update was all pros for usO.o
[KMS] Class revamp, AGAIN! - ZottenKerel - 2011-10-13
Hmm.. talk of pirate/thief legends.. talk of only thing about pirates/theives being kept is their name.. hmmm
Pirates and thieves getting turned into legends?
Crazy or plausible?
Discuss.
[KMS] Class revamp, AGAIN! - Abysseon - 2011-10-13
SwordStaker Wrote:Blaze is pretty damn strong. My friend in my guild said he can see Evans getting Arcaine Aim in 9th growth and I can agree. I thought about it a little though, every other mages main attack is also their mobber. If anything if Blaze is going to be the main skill Evans use and it's going to be 1v1, then it needs to hit the highest amount of damage. I say give Arcaine Aim and put a dot on Blaze and give it a new animation, it looks weak compared to other skills. Hell Illusion looks more buff then Blaze.
Instead of copying arcane aim, I would rather for them to change blaze's animation and increase the number of hits from 3 to 7-10.
[KMS] Class revamp, AGAIN! - Jerry-Boyle - 2011-10-13
Viaje Wrote:Yeah, because third place in mages equals way overpowered.LOL?
All I said was Legend update was all pros for us, not us being overpowered? Go back to your hole please with your shenanigans.
To me, two updates giving pros to a single class right after each other doesn't seem likely.
[KMS] Class revamp, AGAIN! - Dark Zero - 2011-10-13
Killmeplsok Wrote:Who the hell is that hermit?? looks cool!
Pirates...why are you in December
Since not everyone can read...
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[KMS] Class revamp, AGAIN! - Link - 2011-10-13
ZottenKerel Wrote:Hmm.. talk of pirate/thief legends.. talk of only thing about pirates/theives being kept is their name.. hmmm
Pirates and thieves getting turned into legends?
Crazy or plausible?
Discuss.
Not going to happen. They would not only have to change all of the data in the WZ files, but change all of the data in all of the versions' databases (the reason I mention this is because everyone knows Nexon will screw things up majorly) and the fact that there are multiple jobs per class means there would have to be multiple Pirate Legends and multiple Thief Legends.
[KMS] Class revamp, AGAIN! - Takebacker - 2011-10-13
Dark Zero Wrote:Who the hell is that hermit?? looks cool!
The art is really screwed up though. In the colored picture he's got a scar on the left eye and a patch on the right. In the one behind, it's scar+patch on right side...
The pirate hat is also of different design.
[KMS] Class revamp, AGAIN! - Justin - 2011-10-13
Dark Zero Wrote:Who the hell is that hermit?? looks cool!
Possibly preview pics of the pirate and thief legends? Not getting my hopes up though.
[KMS] Class revamp, AGAIN! - Raul - 2011-10-13
Viaje Wrote:Because they can and it's free.
Seriously though, Buccs are already messed up, hence people peaching that they should change.
I just hope invincible frames fly out the window and the transformation animation goes too.
The transform animation is basically the only cool thing about buccs to me.
Dragon Strike and demo are kinda cool, but they really don't have any very cool animations besides those.
They should keep Transform but just start over on everything else.
[KMS] Class revamp, AGAIN! - Abysseon - 2011-10-13
Jerry-Boyle Wrote:To me, two updates giving pros to a single class right after each other doesn't seem likely.
Arans/evans still seem to be lacking as legends after the recent mercedes vids.
Takebacker Wrote:The art is really screwed up though. In the colored picture he's got a scar on the left eye and a patch on the right. In the one behind, it's scar+patch on right side...
The pirate hat is also of different design.
They're not screwed up.
The first layer is a sketch and the pics behind them are most likely the finished designs.
[KMS] Class revamp, AGAIN! - Born2BeMild - 2011-10-13
I guess I could say the constant revamps keep the game fresh, but Nexon needs to really get it together and make a balanced adjustment to all classes and leave it alone for a good, long while.
Viaje Wrote:I get a kick out of seeing new skills, but, let's face it, time spent constantly rebalancing classes could be spent on actual content.
Pretty much this.
[KMS] Class revamp, AGAIN! - Raph589 - 2011-10-13
Justin Wrote:Possibly preview pics of the pirate and thief legends? Not getting my hopes up though.
Pirate legend will most likely be a knuckle user, because of Testonen and the fact that the resistance pirate is a gun wielding too. We never know tho.
[KMS] Class revamp, AGAIN! - Takebacker - 2011-10-13
Abysseon Wrote:They're not screwed up.
The first layer is a sketch and the pics behind them are most likely the finished designs.
The fact that they made new art for traditional characters is screwed up in the first place, but it's just a minor detail.
[KMS] Class revamp, AGAIN! - Viaje - 2011-10-13
ZottenKerel Wrote:Hmm.. talk of pirate/thief legends.. talk of only thing about pirates/theives being kept is their name.. hmmmI was actually thinking that they're totally changing the two classes just to turn their Legend counterparts into the current versions of the Adventurers.
Pirates and thieves getting turned into legends?
Crazy or plausible?
Discuss.
Ultimate troll!
Jerry-Boyle Wrote:LOL?There have been many instances of them repeatedly buffing a class.
All I said was Legend update was all pros for us, not us being overpowered? Go back to your hole please with your shenanigans.
To me, two updates giving pros to a single class right after each other doesn't seem likely.
By saying that they couldn't possibly buff you, you're implying that you are already overpowered. You aren't.
Raul Wrote:The transform animation is basically the only cool thing about buccs to me.I've always had a problem with it simply because it totally negates any purpose of customizing your character.
Dragon Strike and demo are kinda cool, but they really don't have any very cool animations besides those.
They should keep Transform but just start over on everything else.
My brother pointed out to me a while ago that Cannoneers are the first pirate class were you can persistently see what you're wearing.
Born2BeMild Wrote:I guess I could say the constant revamps keep the game fresh, but Nexon needs to really get it together and make a balanced adjustment to all classes and leave it alone for a good, long while.I get a kick out of seeing new skills, but, let's face it, time spent constantly rebalancing classes could be spent on actual content.
[KMS] Class revamp, AGAIN! - Dark Link - 2011-10-13
Abysseon Wrote:Arans/evans still seem to be lacking as legends after the recent mercedes vids.
And Mercedes isn't being touched, this can only mean all classes are being buffed to the same "Godlike" status!
[KMS] Class revamp, AGAIN! - Jerry-Boyle - 2011-10-13
Viaje Wrote:There have been many instances of them repeatedly buffing a class.Assumptions can kill you.
By saying that they couldn't possibly buff you, you're implying that you are already overpowered. You aren't.
Your analyzing my words too much. I meant exactly what I said. I'll rephrase my words for you and see how that goes;
I said I wasn't expecting another patch focusing on all buffs to my class. I would be expecting some nerfs in this patch unlike Legend which just focused on buffing. Clear enough? Remember do not read between the words, read what's infront of you. If you stare at things and see things that aren't actually there, then that's a problem
If you haven't notice; instances doesn't mean Nexon will repeat themselves. If there are no nerfs then I am not complaining, I just won't be expecting it is all.
[KMS] Class revamp, AGAIN! - Mibs - 2011-10-13
Jerry-Boyle Wrote:*Waits for Thief+Pirate to receive one minor update then ignored for another few months* :p
I have no idea what they could do for Evans in this but to nerf us down. Legend update was all pros for usO.o
I'm thinking the roughly the same. Almost everything about how the Evan class is treated is unusual. We never seem to have heavy buffs or nerfs, but we never seem to manage to have good DPS either. Legends WAS all buffs for us (yay!), but then there is the DPS chart that says we could still use more...all mages but f/p could.
It still feels weird in the "I can't believe Nexon did something right twice" kind of way that we're being buffed in two consecutive revamps for our class.
It's going to be particularly weird for me...just the buffs from Ascension make me feel OP. (Which I'm well aware I'm far from).
[KMS] Class revamp, AGAIN! - Link - 2011-10-13
This is how I imagine Nexon's conversations going :
Nexon Grunt : Hey, Kim. What would it be like if we actually implemented the Black Magician in MapleStory?
Nexon CEO : That's dangerous thinking, Kim.
Nexon Grunt : Oh. Okay, Kim.
Nexon CEO : Kim, we're losing mon--- customers. Execute the next class "rebalance" plan.
Nexon MapleStory Team Head : Alright, Kim.
Nexon : *Insert slew of "rebalancing" patches that'll screw things up for the players so Nexon has room for the next revamp*
See? They're not touching Mercedes and Demon Slayer because there's room for future updates.