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Ignore def doesn't stack - shouri - 2011-12-23

New info:

Just took of my gun with 15% pdr ignore and added in more AP so that I hit 10k range again (10004 this time)

Accelbot just let me hit 9987 (I think I also saw a 9990). So the gun ignore doesn't seem to have made any difference... so it looks like it's accel bot on it's own somehow letting me hit 99.9% of my damage range... 0.o

Edit: haha, lol... Joe just let me know that accelbot is a flat reduction. So of course 10% PDR mobs would lose all of their PDR, derp xD

Ignore def doesn't stack - Clamors - 2011-12-29

So the Leafre set PDR isn't working at the moment is what I'm getting out of this? Yet the ones that give 15% are?

Ignore def doesn't stack - Shidoshi - 2011-12-29

F/Ps not having a "normal attack" and all the bonuses from arcane aim, extreme magic, amp and all make it HELL to test these things. Thanks for the work guys =D

Ignore def doesn't stack - hongyu - 2011-12-31

Clamors Wrote:So the Leafre set PDR isn't working at the moment is what I'm getting out of this? Yet the ones that give 15% are?

both works on some monsters, not all that's it

Ignore def doesn't stack - CarrionCrow - 2011-12-31

hongyu Wrote:both works on some monsters, not all that's it

Lol no. The def ignore bonuses from the monster book does not work, at all. This thread has proven it like 10 times already.

Ignore def doesn't stack - hongyu - 2011-12-31

CarrionCrow Wrote:Lol no. The def ignore bonuses from the monster book does not work, at all. This thread has proven it like 10 times already.

Theres been some weird results regardless, such as fear hitting above max possible range on snails, but hey that really doesn't prove anything. Regardless it doesn't work on monsters that we normally train/boss on. So who cares really. No point arguing if it works on monsters like snails or w/e

Ignore def doesn't stack - Clamors - 2012-01-23

hate to bring up an old post, but does anyone know if ignore pdr stacks on the same weapon? example: getting 30% and 15% ignore pdr on the same weapon?

Ignore def doesn't stack - SaptaZapta - 2012-02-18

Codex ignore def works now.

Tested using regular attack on Chief Oblivion Guardians (PDRate 20%). Other sources of ignore def: Combat Mastery (40%), maxed Ambition (10%).

Using Leafre Set (30% ignore def. no relevant skills affected by the "CO" effect), I was hitting 96% of my range.
Using Mushroom Shrine set (no ignore def), I was hitting only 90% of my range.

I don't have a weapon with ignore def, to test whether they stack.

Ignore def doesn't stack - Dark Link - 2012-02-18

SaptaZapta Wrote:Codex ignore def works now.

Tested using regular attack on Chief Oblivion Guardians (PDRate 20%). Other sources of ignore def: Combat Mastery (40%), maxed Ambition (10%).

Using Leafre Set (30% ignore def. no relevant skills affected by the "CO" effect), I was hitting 96% of my range.
Using Mushroom Shrine set (no ignore def), I was hitting only 90% of my range.

I don't have a weapon with ignore def, to test whether they stack.

I hope this is true. I'd like to start using something other than the Zak Set for once.
LF> More confirmation.

Ignore def doesn't stack - FoolsLove - 2012-02-18

Dark Link Wrote:I hope this is true. I'd like to start using something other than the Zak Set for once.
LF> More confirmation.

Going to confirm it with Sapta as well. I'm using the Leafre set too, and my damage increases quite noticeably with the leafre set over sets without ignore def. Don't have exact numbers like he does, but I know it does indeed work.

Ignore def doesn't stack - ShinkuDragon - 2012-02-18

seconding this, using buster and beholder+CO, my average damage on oblivion chief guardians jumped quite a bit.

no actual numbers, headache too bad for simple math atm.

Ignore def doesn't stack - VerrKol - 2012-02-18

Confirmed with SS using Leafre Codex:

Edit: Forgot 10% boss from Fury unleashed. Now fixed.

Ambition level and Range:
 Spoiler

Bow used (note it has 30% boss):
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Calculations (assuming Codex does NOT work):
25% PDR from Marksmenship skill
7.5% PDR from Ambition
= 32.5% Effective PDR

Dodo has 30% Def

.325*30=9.75
30-9.75=20.25% Damage reduced from Def

Max range is 45803
45803*.2025=9275
45803-9275=36527 (max damage after PDR)
36527*.40+36527=51137 (max damage after PDR including 40% boss)

I exceed this:
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So crusade PDR works at last!

Ignore def doesn't stack - Revamp - 2012-02-18

Something still isn't stacking.
It's very minuscule though
Range:
56980-81400
Using phantom blow(105% damage 20% pdr)
30% PDR codex, 15% PDR dagger, 20% PDR skill 5% ambition
6% total damage from katara, 25% PDR mob
Numbers:
(((81400)*1.05)*((0.75+(0.25*0.7)))*1.06=83803
(((56940)*1.05)*((0.75+(0.25*0.7)))*1.06=58621
Phantom blow damage should be 58621-83803
[Image: 14tadsk.png]
As you can see, I hit a 575xx hit.
Can anyone confirm whether stronghold mobs are 25%?
If they're actually 30%, then I'll feel really stupid.

Ignore def doesn't stack - hongyu - 2012-02-18

Revamp Wrote:Something still isn't stacking.
It's very minuscule though
Range:
56980-81400
Using phantom blow(105% damage 20% pdr)
30% PDR codex, 15% PDR dagger, 20% PDR skill 5% ambition
6% total damage from katara, 25% PDR mob
Numbers:
(((81400)*1.05)*((0.75+(0.25*0.7)))*1.06=83803
(((56940)*1.05)*((0.75+(0.25*0.7)))*1.06=58621
Phantom blow damage should be 58621-83803
[Image: 14tadsk.png]
As you can see, I hit a 575xx hit.
Can anyone confirm whether stronghold mobs are 25%?
If they're actually 30%, then I'll feel really stupid.

they are actually 35%

Ignore def doesn't stack - McAwesomesauce - 2012-02-19

If only I knew this before I went ahead and maxed all my skills.
My OCD won't let me use that Leafre set knowing some of it is going to waste.

Ignore def doesn't stack - CarrionCrow - 2012-02-19

McAwesomesauce Wrote:If only I knew this before I went ahead and maxed all my skills.
My OCD won't let me use that Leafre set knowing some of it is going to waste.

So look forward to the next hot time then. x)

Ignore def doesn't stack - ChronosXIII - 2012-02-19

Revamp Wrote:-snip-

If you are who I think you are, you're back already? Rolleyes

I find it strange how Nexon ninja patches codex when they probably are not even aware of the issue. Now if only they could fix the second issue with it...*sigh*

And just curious, does Decent Combat Orders stack with Leafre Set's +1 allskills effect? In the off chance I could ever attain either or even both of them, it'd make for some pretty full builds.

Ignore def doesn't stack - CarrionCrow - 2012-02-19

ChronosXIII Wrote:I find it strange how Nexon ninja patches codex when they probably are not even aware of the issue. Now if only they could fix the second issue with it...*sigh*

And just curious, does Decent Combat Orders stack with Leafre Set's +1 allskills effect? In the off chance I could ever attain either or even both of them, it'd make for some pretty full builds.
Most likely the issue fixed itself after something KMS did.

It stacks. I have 1+ from decent CO, 2+ from level 140 set bonus and 1+ on helmet potential.

Ignore def doesn't stack - PirateIzzy - 2012-02-19

Now I really want to finish the Leafre set. Stupid Horntail card T_T

Ignore def doesn't stack - Alloy - 2012-02-20

PirateIzzy Wrote:Now I really want to finish the Leafre set. Stupid Horntail card T_T

If more than one card drops, take me with you D:

Also, what's better, 3% att, or 1% stats with 15% ignore def?