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DotA2 - Original Thread - Malthe - 2011-12-02
fucking hell, it double posts everytime i post a big post... and i only click once -_-
DotA2 - Original Thread - Derosis - 2011-12-02
Unleashing Wrote:Well.. I haven't really tried streaming anything before, but i'm planning on streaming most of my DotA2 here: http://www.twitch.tv/maltheo
Will just be me on skype with whoever i'm playing with playing some mediocre DotA2 games(Planning to get back to my old level of skill, or better) whilst getting used to the game again (pineapple i'm loving dark seer and furion at the moment)
If anybody want me to play any specific hero or anything like that, just ask >:o)
If I get my key, (just did the survey), I'll join skype and we can play some games :O
DotA2 - Original Thread - Worthyness - 2011-12-02
i did the survey today, but my graphics card sucks and I don't know if I can run it
Do they notify you by email for beta?
DotA2 - Original Thread - Malthe - 2011-12-02
Derosis Wrote:If I get my key, (just did the survey), I'll join skype and we can play some games :OCool. Sounds good, just post here, will update the main post when game goes out of beta so we can possibly get some teams going for SP
Worthyness Wrote:i did the survey today, but my graphics card sucks and I don't know if I can run itIt's done in the source engine so run on lowest quality and you should be alright.
Do they notify you by email for beta?
And yes they send an email and you get it in your steam game list.
DotA2 - Original Thread - Dusk - 2011-12-03
My brother got a key and he's giving me one of his invites so I'll have the beta soon!
DotA2 - Original Thread - Malthe - 2011-12-03
Dusk Wrote:My brother got a key and he's giving me one of his invites so I'll have the beta soon!Awesome! Add me on steam if you want to!
Steam name is Maltheo
DotA2 - Original Thread - Derosis - 2011-12-03
I want an invite :c
DotA2 - Original Thread - Yokuyin - 2011-12-04
I've filled in the survey too, but since I've never played DotA, I filled everything with 0 or N/A. I doubt Valve survey-examination-o-matic will recognize a N/A, so I doubt I'll make it in the beta.
DotA2 - Original Thread - Worthyness - 2011-12-04
Yokuyin Wrote:I've filled in the survey too, but since I've never played DotA, I filled everything with 0 or N/A. I doubt Valve survey-examination-o-matic will recognize a N/A, so I doubt I'll make it in the beta.
there was an N/A option? o_O I just filled out random things cause I'd never played before (and I used whatever I fell my LoL stats would be xD)
DotA2 - Original Thread - Yokuyin - 2011-12-04
Worthyness Wrote:there was an N/A option? o_O I just filled out random things cause I'd never played before (and I used whatever I fell my LoL stats would be xD)
There were some questions with numbers, for example 'Estimate your earned gold at the end of a battle', and I answered them with typing in N/A, I doubt the machine will recognise that.
DotA2 - Original Thread - Dusk - 2011-12-04
After two losses and a reintroduction to the horrible flaming that goes on in Dota games, I won my first game! I'm primarily a support player but I know how to farm
dat cs![IMGSPOILER]http://i.imgur.com/TB0Co.jpg[/IMGSPOILER]
You can tell how terrible everyone is by how many kills Rikimaru got.
DotA2 - Original Thread - Malthe - 2011-12-05
Well, that was sad.
Was playing as night stalker and Dusk got Rylai, i thought YAY freefarm time top, we even had a riki SK lane for bottom which can survive against a omni+windrunner till level 3+ where SK should start roaming and riki should get to 6 and start farming his pants off, we had an AA so i thought he'd handle BM mid and we'd have an easy game cause i was easily the hardest carry in the game and ns can rape easily.
But no, SK and AA insist of going top and sending rylai, a 290 movespeed support with no health at all bottom with riki vs omni and windrunner, assuring them to get fucking raped and forcing me mid vs a beast master which leaves the lane as good as lost, impossible to win against him with rune-control and he can harass and farm like a boss and he wins 1v1 easily unless it's night and even then it's hard due his ult and their roaming vengeful...
Lost that game hard. -_-
DotA2 - Original Thread - Corn - 2011-12-05
How is this compared to League of Legends?
DotA2 - Original Thread - Dusk - 2011-12-05
Corn Wrote:How is this compared to League of Legends?
Are you asking about differences in the two games?
Major differences:
- Dota has a much greater variety in hero design. This is the greatest aspect of Dota, in my opinion.
- Disables and position-altering skills are much more prevalent and powerful, making positioning more important.
- No bushes. Tons of (destructible) trees and hidden pathways through trees.
- Towers have more health but do less damage. You aren't safe at your tower.
- All carries in LoL are soft carries in Dota. Supports don't scale well in Dota.
- No free Recalls back to base. You pay 135 gold for a town portal scroll, which has a 1 min cd but can be used to teleport both to your base and any tower. This gives teams much greater mobility.
- Courier. You can buy a mule that can move items around the map. You spend very little time in your base.
- There is much less passive regen in Dota. Few heroes have skills that are made to be spammed on cd, and autoattack is significantly more important. Active items and abilities are much more powerful than in LoL.
- No Summoner skills. Common skills come in the form of active abilities for items, of which there are tons. Very few items only boost stats.
- Denies. You can deny creeps, towers, and even heroes (in certain situations).
DotA2 - Original Thread - Malthe - 2011-12-06
And a much steeper and harder learning curve. DotA is a lot less forgiving, if you die you lose gold.
You can pull jungle-creeps to stack the camps(getting more monsters i 1 camp at 1 time)
Runes spawn in the 2 middle spots every 2 minutes, there are runes with Double damage, haste(522 movesspeed aka max movespeed) invisiblity, illusion(3 illusions), regeneration(regenerates hp and mp at a crazy rate and doesnt go away till you're fully regen'd or take damage) and such.
And, just picking up 1 item on 1 hero even if he isn't a carry can change the game, completely.
If your team has an earth shaker(Disabler/AOE nuker) and he gets a blink dagger, your opponents can't engage you freely anymore.
If your team has a tinker and he gets Boots of travel your opponents are pineappleed because he can split push like a pineappleing motherpineappleer(his ults let him remove the cooldown of all his skills at a high mana cost and there are boots that has the effect of a TP scroll=he's everywhere at once + his AOE let's him push so hard)
And some skills in DotA seem broken till you learn how to get around them. Doombringer's ulti has a 13 sec DoT with built in silence that silences items. It's crazy as pineapple.
And items and heroes get abilities that give bash which let's you stun, 2 heroes in the game are known for being able to perma-stun you.
Especially faceless void(25% chance of stunning and he's an agi carry which means high attack speed)
Playing DotA is a completely different experience.
Especially because everyone is equal at the game-start and everyone has access to all heroes. There's no such bullshit(this is my opinion) as runes and masteries, it all comes down to skill and not to who has better runes.
DotA2 - Original Thread - Derosis - 2011-12-06
Got my beta pass. Playing tomorrow.
DotA2 - Original Thread - Dusk - 2011-12-07
Add me if you want to play.
DotA2 - Original Thread - lorx - 2011-12-07
Corn Wrote:How is this compared to League of Legends?
Change out EVE Online for Dota2, pick any other line you want for LoL:
![[Image: learningcurve.jpg]](http://i.neoseeker.com/mgv/394161-Lorx/161/48/learningcurve.jpg)
@Unleashing, I'm not sure if I would call runes in LoL being a fight of "who has the better runes", since if you don't spam-buy champions, it's not hard to fill out multiple pages. Now leveling to 30, and the bonuses associated with that process, that I find a problem.
DotA2 - Original Thread - Malthe - 2011-12-07
lorx Wrote:@Unleashing, I'm not sure if I would call runes in LoL being a fight of "who has the better runes", since if you don't spam-buy champions, it's not hard to fill out multiple pages. Now leveling to 30, and the bonuses associated with that process, that I find a problem.Doesnt matter, not having access to all heroes and all runes gives anybody who decides to buy all heroes at once a huge lead compared to you since he wont have to use any points on champions but can buy runes only, which i find to be bullpomegranate. But that's my opinion, i don't play LoL anymore so meh.
That's why DotA is all about skill, everyone has access to everything and nothing but how you play decides what happens.
I find LoL to be a perfectly fine game, i have nothing against it btw. I just dislike the "Buy heroes" and rune part massively
DotA2 - Original Thread - lorx - 2011-12-07
Unleashing Wrote:Doesnt matter, not having access to all heroes and all runes gives anybody who decides to buy all heroes at once a huge lead compared to you since he wont have to use any points on champions but can buy runes only, which i find to be bullpomegranate. But that's my opinion, i don't play LoL anymore so meh.
That's why DotA is all about skill, everyone has access to everything and nothing but how you play decides what happens.
I find LoL to be a perfectly fine game, i have nothing against it btw. I just dislike the "Buy heroes" and rune part massively
I understand/respect that, LoL is certainly far from perfectly balanced. I don't really have a huge issue with the buying of champions only because it's why the game is free, I don't think Riot makes enough off the rest of their micro-transactions (skins, rune pages, etc) to float the game. DotA2 is made to be a much more "serious" competitive game, and it's the reason why I'd love to try it, but expect to suck/not really be too into it.
On a related note, last I checked DotA2 didn't have an announced price or anything, has any information come down about that yet? A lot of rumors were that it would be f2p, but I'm not really sure where they would be able to grab money from players that way. You know, without resorting to hats. I'm more expecting a cheap flat price, with free weekends scattered about.