ShiKage Wrote:-If you don't care, don't post. Why the hell would you post a reply to something you don't care about? >_>

ShiKage Wrote:-When does it happen? All of the time. I don't know how godly you think you are, but as far as I've experience, which is from bossing almost every day, Demolition leaves me open to attacks around 40% of the time. I take hits all of the time when using Demolition. It's definitely not a 95% invulnerability rate like you seem to think it is.

ShiKage Wrote:-I'm not here to fight for the cause of the Japanese. Save that for another day.

Takebacker Wrote:What an original argument. I'm not gonna post because i don't care, i just won't put the effort into it.



Good job missing the point. Guess i'm not the only one that does that. When does being OHKO'd ever happen.

How much of the animation+delay of demolition are you invulnerable? 95% is clearly an exaggeration, but for f'ucks sake, the delay time is so insignificant compared to demo's famously blistering cast time.



I only brought up the japanese because they've clearly affected how you view your class. I don't think ill of them. Only of what you've told (aka ranted) to me about them.

ShiKage Wrote:If you haven't HP washed, it happens quite a lot at higher level bosses, like Pink Bean, Empress Cygnus, etc., where they do ~15k damage normally. I know if I were to go up against a boss that does more than 10k damage, I would be flat out killed instantly, because Demolition doesn't keep me alive. Neither will using Rapid Fist in a chain with it, nor will using my Energy Charge skills (supposing I can even get the skill up in time... >_>).

ShiKage Wrote:The Japanese have absolutely no effect on how I view my class.

Takebacker Wrote:And if you're at higher level bosses you have hyper body which magically raises you to above what you just said would ohko you.

Also, i only use CSB+barrage at PB. Makes it attack a lot less and makes me a lot harder to hit.



Being shunned for being stigma'd into being weak has no effect on your opinion that buccaneers are weak? You've ranted about being shunned in the past. It clearly does affect you.

Takebacker Wrote:Being shunned for being stigma'd into being weak has no effect on your opinion that buccaneers are weak? You've ranted about being shunned in the past. It clearly does affect you.

maplefreak26 Wrote:IMO, it looks incomplete....
It doesn't have a "main" attacking skill.

Example:
Archers: Hurricane/Double Shot/Strafe
Mechanic: That 1st job skill
BM: Those funny dark purplish attacks

ShiKage Wrote:-What if you don't? Dark Knights aren't always available, as one should know, and they're definitely not always available in every party. If you're in a party without a Dark Knight, you're screwed.

ShiKage Wrote:-Screw Punch + Fist is terrible and extremely risky on mobile bosses. If you KB it, you risk killing your party members. If the boss only moves slightly, or due to lag, moves and then moves back, you get screwed and end up hitting the body.

ShiKage Wrote:-Look, the Japanese have absolutely no effect on me as far as my view of my class. My character? Yes. My class? No. >_> I know the ins and outs of my class well enough to not be affected by what the Japanese say or think.

IllegallySane Wrote:Hey, hey hey. That's not an effect from real life. Hell, pretty much all the Buccs on this forum except you consider the class weak. It probably helps you invested a load of funds on your Bucc, while everyone else here either didn't invest into potential or are too poor to be at the level you are. I can practically say ~60-75% of all the NX I've spent on Maple went solely to my Bucc. However, even with all the money I put into the class I still saw him as weak up to now. Why? Because at this current state of kMS everyone else are simply better than us, or aren't shafted so hard. We are good at... staying alive, and making slow classes faster.

Paladins are probably the penultimate example of a class that is not just very good at staying alive (sup Guard + Power Guard + Holy Armor + Achilles + high as the sky defense + high HP) but are decent enough in support to be brought to runs for support (who wouldn't say no to -20% physical damage, -accuracy, -defense from a boss, or +2 to your skills?) and according to the old DPS charts deal more damage than Buccs.

*Damn I need some popcorn.

Sarah Wrote:To be fair, Sylv names his skill combinations so I think he's probably far more invested in his class than the typical mapler.


DRAGON DANCING

ShiKage Wrote:not that the class (or Maple, at all) requires any skill or thinking to play.

darkmonkey13 Wrote:Also, I like your signature :3

Takebacker Wrote:I like what this thread has become. Everyone keep talking about me. <3

Takebacker Wrote:Paladins are a different matter because survivability for them isn't "active". It isn't something they have to think about. For us, each cast of a skill has to be accompanied with "will she bust out something that can lead to my death after i'm done attacking" or "should i interrupt attacking to rebuff while i think it's safe" or "should i go on the defensive or focus on attacking".

It's true i've gone afk at czak on my Paladin and it's just not an issue to survive. Outside of 1/1+Seduce, it barely dents my HP.

One of the reasons I'm bored of the character, really. My damage is literally always the same, I never need potions, once I have Stance I won't even have to work to stay in melee range. It's not exactly hard to choose which element to use when every boss is neutral.

Another reason I dislike the class is the horrible number of buffs. Not sure I'd prefer a class with a lot of attacks, but Paladins have way too many skills that should have gone the way of the Mechanic and been made passive.

If it wasn't so much stronger than my other characters, I'd probably drop it and just do boss runs on my NL.

Sarah Wrote:To be fair, Sylv names his skill combinations so I think he's probably far more invested in his class than the typical mapler.

MetaSeraphim Wrote:A great amount of players name their skill combinations everyday.