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[1.2.300] New Class? - Takebacker - 2010-03-26
Shengz Wrote:yeah that's what i thought but idk that wont be PB ground breaking news
500 HP is a ton of washes for a ranged class. You should know that. Not to mention that this will stack with HB.
It helps all classes in a great way. (at least the ones that aren't already at 30k base HP.
[1.2.300] New Class? - Shengz - 2010-03-26
Takebacker Wrote:500 HP is a ton of washes for a ranged class. You should know that. Not to mention that this will stack with HB.
It helps all classes in a great way. (at least the ones that aren't already at 30k base HP.
I realize that but he said this will make pb possible without hp washing... And that is not the case..
[1.2.300] New Class? - Takebacker - 2010-03-27
Shengz Wrote:I realize that but he said this will make pb possible without hp washing... And that is not the case..
He meant this on top of everything else. (other HP equipment, % damage reducing skills)
[1.2.300] New Class? - Shengz - 2010-03-27
Takebacker Wrote:He meant this on top of everything else. (other HP equipment, % damage reducing skills)
Seriously don't start another what was meant vs what was said argument.
Quote: These earrings could be the key to beating Pink Bean without HP washing.
Word for word. Not true. End of story.
[1.2.300] New Class? - Takebacker - 2010-03-27
Shengz Wrote:Seriously don't start another what was meant vs what was said argument.
Word for word. Not true. End of story.
Whatever you say Mr. Literal.
[1.2.300] New Class? - Shengz - 2010-03-27
Takebacker Wrote:Whatever you say Mr. Literal.
Love how mature you are in admitting wrongs.
Anyways back to the earrings, i wonder how fast the durability goes up.. And if they go up fast, won't they become expensive to wear?
[1.2.300] New Class? - Takebacker - 2010-03-27
Shengz Wrote:Love how mature you are in admitting wrongs.
How am i admitting wrongs? I'm agreeing with your notion of letting the argument fall.
Besides, did you follow the link? It was funny.
@ earrings: What do you mean how fast does it go up? If you repair it goes up to 100% instantly. O_o
[1.2.300] New Class? - Shengz - 2010-03-27
nope it doesn't come up as a link for me for some reason o-o
like uhm i was under the impression the earrings start at 0% and go up to 100% then they boom/can't be used anymore. You repair them to bring them back to 0%? correct if wrong still sorta confused as to all the details on these earrings.. And you were wrong but we are agreeing to not get into that argument but you decided to go to immature name calling instead for some reason x-x.
[1.2.300] New Class? - Takebacker - 2010-03-27
Shengz Wrote:nope it doesn't come up as a link for me for some reason o-o
like uhm i was under the impression the earrings start at 0% and go up to 100% then they boom/can't be used anymore. You repair them to bring them back to 0%? correct if wrong still sorta confused as to all the details on these earrings.. And you were wrong but we are agreeing to not get into that argument but you decided to go to immature name calling instead for some reason x-x.
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/529003
Fairly sure it's the other way around, except they don't boom.
Letting the argument fall means agreeing to disagree. >_> I know how that guy posts. What he posted wasn't what he meant. Now we're arguing about it anyway. Wt'f.
[1.2.300] New Class? - IllegallySane - 2010-03-27
Spideyjvc Wrote:% based stat boosts on equips now? Oh boy, seems like we may get a nice addition to the defence formula if played well.
Do. Fricking. Want. It'd solve the need of fixing the defense formula, because you can get a solid damage reduction for wearing certain equipment. It'd be nice if that'd exist on level 130/140/150 equipment, making those worth making/wearing.
[1.2.300] New Class? - Takebacker - 2010-03-27
IllegallySane Wrote:Do. Fricking. Want. It'd solve the need of fixing the defense formula, because you can get a solid damage reduction for wearing certain equipment. It'd be nice if that'd exist on level 130/140/150 equipment, making those worth making/wearing.
I'm confused on this. Making items that reduce damage by a % doesn't fix the defense formula. It replaces it.
[1.2.300] New Class? - IllegallySane - 2010-03-27
Takebacker Wrote:I'm confused on this. Making items that reduce damage by a % doesn't fix the defense formula. It replaces it.
We don't really need %-reduction in the lower levels. Think of %-reduction as a reward for those that really put a lot of time into their characters and also the way ranged players survive the tougher enemies/bosses out there. From what I remember, ranged suffer from being 2 shotted only after hitting ~early 4th job. Suffer a few more levels, and you gain access to equipment that will make you take 3 hits to die instead. It'll also make ranged be able to survive hits unwashed like they did back in 3rd job.
[1.2.300] New Class? - Takebacker - 2010-03-27
IllegallySane Wrote:We don't really need %-reduction in the lower levels. Think of %-reduction as a reward for those that really put a lot of time into their characters and also the way ranged players survive the tougher enemies/bosses out there. From what I remember, ranged suffer from being 2 shotted only after hitting ~early 4th job. Suffer a few more levels, and you gain access to equipment that will make you take 3 hits to die instead. It'll also make ranged be able to survive hits unwashed like they did back in 3rd job.
I'm not saying it would be a bad thing, just that it wouldn't fix the defense formula. Defense as in the stat.
[1.2.300] New Class? - Shengz - 2010-03-27
Takebacker Wrote:I'm not saying it would be a bad thing, just that it wouldn't fix the defense formula. Defense as in the stat.
Wouldn't fix the stat but it would perhaps fix the problem depending on how much % was added.
Wouldn't that be awesome guys? Nexon force(almost) tons of 4th jobbers into hp washing then add in these fancy magic defence formula's to totally screw over everyone who HP washed. I'd just facepalm if they ended up doing this..
[1.2.300] New Class? - Takebacker - 2010-03-27
Shengz Wrote:Wouldn't fix the stat but it would perhaps fix the problem depending on how much % was added.
Wouldn't that be awesome guys? Nexon force(almost) tons of 4th jobbers into hp washing then add in these fancy magic defence formula's to totally screw over everyone who HP washed. I'd just facepalm if they ended up doing this..
The stat needing to be fixed is the problem though, lol.
I was thinking this too, but there are still other benefits to HP washing. At least for me there is.
[1.2.300] New Class? - Shengz - 2010-03-27
Takebacker Wrote:The stat needing to be fixed is the problem though, lol.
I was thinking this too, but there are still other benefits to HP washing. At least for me there is.
Yeah agreed they do have to re-work their defence issues.. And yeah with HP wash theres no need for defence.. tank hits and you're all good
[1.2.300] New Class? - WizOaks - 2010-03-27
when i saw the Login Screen i thought that they finally released that Castle Area in thew Background of El Nath...
only to be wrong with Trolls and low leveled Monsters
[1.2.300] New Class? - Alloy - 2010-03-27
UHM... An equip that makes defense double up would make it USEFUL.
[1.2.300] New Class? - Takebacker - 2010-03-27
Alloy Wrote:UHM... An equip that makes defense double up would make it USEFUL.
Well first of all, an equip that doubles your defense would be ridiculous in Nexon's mind.
Second, just doubling defense doesn't fix anything. If you have 700 def you're not really going to be taking that much more damage than if you had 1400 because defense by itself doesn't reduce damage by enough.
[1.2.300] New Class? - Alloy - 2010-03-27
Takebacker Wrote:Well first of all, an equip that doubles your defense would be ridiculous in Nexon's mind.
Second, just doubling defense doesn't fix anything. If you have 700 def you're not really going to be taking that much more damage than if you had 1400 because defense by itself doesn't reduce damage by enough.
I'm not sure how defense works, but imagine defense makes you get hurt with 1 less hit point per defense. If you double that up, it's like having your defense gear turned to hp gear. Only stacking with pots.
Of course, I have no idea, just thinking an aproximate.