Takebacker Wrote:Snatch.

Reasons:

1) You go rambo. Instead of dragon dancing apparently you switch blast and DS. So switching snatch and DS instead would improve your HKO.
2) MW isn't going to change your HKO much if at all. You probably 4hko chief guards, right?
3) You care about training speed, not bossing speed. MW would increase your bossing speed. (though usually you'll have MW anyway) Snatch would increase your bossing speed (and be useless at bosses).

Kaasoljoyyx Wrote:This is the main thing to consider. There is almost no point in getting mw20 if you're still gonna XHKO with MW10 when training. It's like when bishops get gen30 and still 2hko, when they could 2hko with gen10.

Kaasoljoyyx Wrote:This is the main thing to consider. There is almost no point in getting mw20 if you're still gonna XHKO with MW10 when training. It's like when bishops get gen30 and still 2hko, when they could 2hko with gen10.

kingdj333 Wrote:Where should I train? I remade my pirate and it's level 60.

Takebacker Wrote:Snatch.

Reasons:


2) MW isn't going to change your HKO much if at all. You probably 4hko chief guards, right?
3) You care about training speed, not bossing speed. MW would increase your bossing speed. (though usually you'll have MW anyway) Snatch would increase your bossing speed (and be useless at bosses).

IllegallySane Wrote:Sorry for the late reply.

2. My XHKO range can go from 4 hits to 6 hits, averaging ~5-6 Dragon Strikes to kill one (Clean range is ~2437-4432). Partial blame is resetting 36 STR to INT, and using underpar equipment. If I can find a 12+ DEX 4-5 PAC, I'd consider replacing my 16 DEX Yellow Cape. I also need to replace my 89 King Cent with a 100+ Reverse Equinox. I also have 9 more attack to gain from leveling my Dawn Warrior.

I also need to consider the extra STR I will gain from my HTP, future Black Canopus, and Reverse shoes. The STR from my HTP is considered ~3 attack so I really lose ~7 attack from my MoN. Canopus Suit I expect a good 15 STR, and a good 10 STR from shoes. That's about 3.5 attack, so I lose about 2.5 attack from upgrading armor. Total potential attack gained: ~9 + 4 + (11-2.5) = 21.5 attack. That's about a 20% increase to my total damage range. There's also misc STR I havene't accounted for, such as a Black Belt, and the STR I would have on my Reverse Equinox.

Takebacker Wrote:It's k.

Weird, your minimum range is only 130 points higher than mine and you're 23 levels above me. I know you're into washing and stuff (from your post...36 base int? w'tf?), but i don't think you really need that much HP for anything. My base is 8k and i can take a hit from pretty much anything with HB. Your base is obviously way higher than mine though, so...

I suggest you level your dawn warrior. Took me a ~1 month to get to 120 and the 12 attack makes me able to O4 comfortably at 137 as opposed to when i should be able to do it at around 145+. You should be 4hkoing there (i 5hko constantly), so you're missing out a lot on attack power. If getting to 120 is too much of a chore at least get your DW to 70, which is real easy to do.

IllegallySane Wrote:I wanna do this character right, because I will be quitting after hitting 200, so why not go the whole 9 yards and HP wash to the point I can have 30k HP when I have HB?

It's worse than that. I am currently level 159, base STR is 760 (I feel like updating in increments of 10 for some arbitrary reason), so 32 levels higher than you. Yes, I am indeed missing out on a lot of weapon attack, and I plan to rectify that after both gaining my medal (5% and 18 hours left!) I got and hitting 160. Got 2b to blow on upgrades, including getting a little more INT (~10 more; may most likely reset another 5 STR and get my other 5 INT through a Black Belt, or use Maker to get 8 INT pirate gloves and shoes so I don't have to AP reset) for a total of 160 INT for efficient double washing.

I know it is a better idea to have upgraded equipment and THEN go for the medal, but then I wouldn't have had 2.4b mesos to use and over 60 Time Pieces for creating my gear (Spent 300m for 6 INT glasses, gonna sell my clean one; bought 6 Face Accessory for Avoid 60%s to scroll my Rat's Mouth; currently 4 DEX, with one unhammered slot left).

Takebacker Wrote:32? I'm 137 and you're 159 (i thought you were 160). 159-137=22. o.o

I still suggest snatch though.

Takebacker Wrote:People get TL from 160-170? What a stupid idea.

IllegallySane Wrote:That's if they wanna boss, because apparently they need max Time Leap for the sake of ensuring no one dies. That's what I've heard told anyways.

Takebacker Wrote:You'd only get 1 more TL per run though (and we're talking PB here since not as many deaths happen at HT) and if no one dies within the first 40 minutes (which is just statue killing) then you'll only get 1 TL per run which means the 29 SP you just spent was worthless.

Takebacker Wrote:I think devil's build was something like 1 TL -> 1 SI -> max ST -> max demo -> max TL. O_o

We're still talking about pirates, so there's no prob.

USMC Wrote:^Dump into your barrel

Anyone know what I need to do to be able to create reverse weapon on maker? I have it level3 but there's no reverse equniox under knuckle menu

illegallysane Wrote:are you level 120 yet? If not, that may be why,