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Is NexonNA trying to kill Reboot World? - SaptaZapta - 2016-01-17

Invulgo Wrote:Well I understand the thought process and the argument. I just keep imagining a meeting at the HQ and them discussing "how to kill Reboot and make as much money as we can while we doing it". It's literally insane as a business strategy, and I refuse to believe the company operates like that. It's interesting how one is even able to come up with a business strategy as insane as this one. It's so outrageous I can't follow it without laughing a little bit on the inside.

I am able to criticize Nexon, but this is just too much for me I guess.

I recommend watching a fun movie called "The Producers": http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0395251/?ref_=nv_sr_1

Also, read a little about "New Coke", particularly this bit:
Wikipedia Wrote:The subsequent reintroduction less than three months later of Coke's original formula, re-branded as "Coca-Cola Classic", resulted in a significant gain in sales. This led to speculation that the introduction of the New Coke formula was just a marketing ploy; however, the company has always claimed it was actually an attempt to replace the original product.



Is NexonNA trying to kill Reboot World? - Grey - 2016-01-17

Invulgo Wrote:Well I understand the thought process and the argument. I just keep imagining a meeting at the HQ and them discussing "how to kill Reboot and make as much money as we can while we doing it". It's literally insane as a business strategy, and I refuse to believe the company operates like that. It's interesting how one is even able to come up with a business strategy as insane as this one. It's so outrageous I can't follow it without laughing a little bit on the inside.

I am able to criticize Nexon, but this is just too much for me I guess.

Take New Coke for example, they released it and it cost them a ton of money and it ultimately failed, but when they put Coke Classic back out, they made a killing. Whether that was intentional or not is up for debate, I suppose, but it definitely worked. It's not like, exactly the same or anything, but it's still proof that sacrifice does work as a business strategy, and it's not completely off the wall crazy to try and replicate it. It's not actually as insane as you think it is.


Is NexonNA trying to kill Reboot World? - Invulgo - 2016-01-17

Grey Wrote:Take New Coke for example, they released it and it cost them a ton of money and it ultimately failed, but when they put Coke Classic back out, they made a killing. Whether that was intentional or not is up for debate, I suppose, but it definitely worked. It's not actually as insane as you think it is.

SaptaZapta Wrote:I recommend watching a fun movie called "The Producers": http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0395251/?ref_=nv_sr_1

Also, read a little about "New Coke", particularly this bit:

That's very interesting, I will look more into it.

*checks Netflix*

Grey Wrote:Take New Coke for example, they released it and it cost them a ton of money and it ultimately failed, but when they put Coke Classic back out, they made a killing. Whether that was intentional or not is up for debate, I suppose, but it definitely worked. It's not like, exactly the same or anything, but it's still proof that sacrifice does work as a business strategy, and it's not completely off the wall crazy to try and replicate it. It's not actually as insane as you think it is.

Ah I see, never heard of anything like this before.


Is NexonNA trying to kill Reboot World? - Five Second Pose - 2016-01-18

Frontlooker Wrote:Also I love how everyone says Nexon sucks, etc. when Nexon makes 100x what Blizzard, Valve and Riot makes together.

You realize Valve owns the single most successful storefront in digital PC gaming, right? Do you really think any company that publishes F2P games will outgross an entire storefront?


Is NexonNA trying to kill Reboot World? - Gymleaders - 2016-01-21

https://www.reddit.com/r/Maplestory/comments/42167q/allstar_coupons_are_available_in_reboot/cz6r4br

Supposedly the new CM is pushing for new NX options in Reboot. This is in response to someone asking for Beauty Salon expansion slot coupons.


Is NexonNA trying to kill Reboot World? - KhainiWest - 2016-01-21

Gymleaders Wrote:https://www.reddit.com/r/Maplestory/comments/42167q/allstar_coupons_are_available_in_reboot/cz6r4br

Supposedly the new CM is pushing for new NX options in Reboot. This is in response to someone asking for Beauty Salon expansion slot coupons.

And he'll probably get fired for it Rolleyes


Is NexonNA trying to kill Reboot World? - xparasite9 - 2016-01-21

KhainiWest Wrote:And he'll probably get fired for it Rolleyes

Realtalk they aren't interested in cosmetics. They are trying, however, to put in a cash shop item that allows buyers to transfer equips within their account.
Source: I am a psychic medium and this premonition came to me in a dream last month.


Is NexonNA trying to kill Reboot World? - Jamesie - 2016-01-22

SaptaZapta Wrote:Also, read a little about "New Coke", particularly this bit:
wikipedia Wrote:Later research, however, suggested that it was not the reintroduction of Classic Coke, but instead the less-heralded rollout of Cherry Coke, that can be credited with the company's success that year



Is NexonNA trying to kill Reboot World? - xparasite9 - 2016-01-22

Jamesie Wrote:suggested

furthermore the citation is not attributed directly to a study, but to the book by Thomas Oliver. And I don't really feel particularly motivated to obtain the book and look at page 187 to see exactly which studies suggested it


Is NexonNA trying to kill Reboot World? - Jamesie - 2016-01-22

xparasite9 Wrote:,
and the original bit from Sapta was that it was speculated; no one really (except perhaps Coke execs) knows why New Coke produced the results it did.


Is NexonNA trying to kill Reboot World? - SaptaZapta - 2016-08-04

With the nerf to Kishin, is it time to resurrect this thread?

It's not clear whether the nerf is intended (the CM is on vacation until next week, so can't be pressed for answers). Rebooters, who seem to spend all their time farming for meso on their Kannas (or on their Phantoms in Kishin-glitched maps), are pretty pissed off, and threatening to quit if Kishin is not returned to its full former glory. They don't even have the option of buying the infamous Frenzy Totem to make up for it.

Will they quit?
Is this intended?
Discuss.


Is NexonNA trying to kill Reboot World? - Shads - 2016-08-04

They should take to other meso farming methods and get over it. I wasnt really that happy with the sudden change of kishin essentially not working, it sorta worked but hardly enough for anyone to notice, but im getting a bit tired of waiting and the 3s reduction to spawn time is fine with me.


Is NexonNA trying to kill Reboot World? - Cactuar - 2016-08-04

SaptaZapta Wrote:They don't even have the option of buying the infamous Frenzy Totem to make up for it.

Let's be real here - it's going to be cheaper to buy a new computer and train a kanna up to 210 than it is to roll the Frenzy Totems in the Book of RNG.


Is NexonNA trying to kill Reboot World? - koplje - 2016-08-05

SaptaZapta Wrote:With the nerf to Kishin, is it time to resurrect this thread?

It's not clear whether the nerf is intended (the CM is on vacation until next week, so can't be pressed for answers). Rebooters, who seem to spend all their time farming for meso on their Kannas (or on their Phantoms in Kishin-glitched maps), are pretty pissed off, and threatening to quit if Kishin is not returned to its full former glory. They don't even have the option of buying the infamous Frenzy Totem to make up for it.

Will they quit?
Is this intended?
Discuss.

Apparently the Totem actually gives BETTER effects than Kishin (1 sec respawn, 70% mob increase). This better not be intentional.


Is NexonNA trying to kill Reboot World? - xparasite9 - 2016-08-05

koplje Wrote:Apparently the Totem actually gives BETTER effects than Kishin (1 sec respawn, 70% mob increase). This better not be intentional.

this is nexon though


Is NexonNA trying to kill Reboot World? - Marksman Bryan - 2016-08-06

I had written a post in response to cactuar along the lines of "but what if the totem is how Kishin is supposed to be, while Kishin is still broken?" but never posted it because, since both have the same values in the data, Nexon would have had to intentionally messed with one of them and thought that was too ridiculous. Guess I was wrong.


Is NexonNA trying to kill Reboot World? - Grey - 2016-08-06

Marksman Bryan Wrote:I had written a post in response to cactuar along the lines of "but what if the totem is how Kishin is supposed to be, while Kishin is still broken?" but never posted it because, since both have the same values in the data, Nexon would have had to intentionally messed with one of them and thought that was too ridiculous. Guess I was wrong.

They don't have the same value in the data, whatever the 70 value is for Kishin, it's been nerfed to 50.


Is NexonNA trying to kill Reboot World? - fodjgngf - 2016-08-06

Kishin was nerfed to 50% a while ago. They were in talks about removing the spawn count entirely iirc.


Is NexonNA trying to kill Reboot World? - Dark Zero - 2016-08-06

fodjgngf Wrote:Kishin was nerfed to 50% a while ago. They were in talks about removing the spawn count entirely iirc.

If they remove the spawn count, is better to change the whole skill itself.


Is NexonNA trying to kill Reboot World? - Ivangold - 2016-08-06

Maybe they could increase the overal respawn of the maps if they remove the bonus spawn in the kishin, doesn't KMS maps have more than here(without kanna)?Hurt