Kyrastri Wrote:Assuming the straightjacket bit means that you were blindfolded, do you know anything else about the screaming?

I think I'm inclined to agree with you on that- a lot of the new votes were towards the end of the day, but it could also be a town/neutral with an agenda to neutralise the vote.

Sorry, could you clarify the bolded part? I don't understand what you mean. Otherwise I agree with you- maybe not a mistake, but I'm inclined to believe that the double voter is either town or a neutral. I see it as this- unless the mafia is particularly small, they wouldn't need the extra vote.

I think you just answered your own question; he'd vote for Polantaris to null the vote. Polantaris would have been a good scapegoat for something like that on day 1; he had no votes at the time, didn't seem anti-town. If Luv is the doublevoter, he could have easily passed it off (note how he said that he voted for no real reason aside from a gut feeling) and let the vote slide by, if you will as nobody had any reason to bandwagon on that.

Okay, you got me. I don't like voting on day 1 even though I say "it's for the best!" It makes sense to, but I get uncomfortable doing it.* I didn't like the bandwagon at the time due to how it got there, and none of the people being voted for seemed iffy to me.

If I had to have voted on day 1, if it gives you information into what I was thinking, I would have gone for either Cakes or Niernen because I honestly had no idea what the hell they were doing day 1. Even now, I don't understand what they're doing. I was going to lay it off until today to bring it up but if I had known that me voting could have actually netted us more information I would have voted to kill someone, so sorry about that :/

(as for the time bit, I was neglectful with the time and thought I would have had time to vote. Not that it would have made me look any better- late day voting is still pretty bad in itself.)

edit: * rewording because personality traits shouldn't be used as arguments, shock horror

Niernen Wrote:I hadn't even considered a double vote and was really confused on why Meta was hinting that the votes were tied when it looked like Razmos would get lynched. I don't think there would have been much anyone could have done that late though, besides voting for Razmos to lynch him, or possibly voting for the same person as the double vote. Possible double voters are: Holypie, Razmos, Verrkol, Hypermug and LuvDWayULie (so basically everyone that voted day 1 except Maspan and Shidoshi). People have already pointed out that it is unlikely it was Luv, and it looks like hypermug is denying it is him, which leaves us with Razmos and Verrkol. That being said, it is highly unlikely that the mafia has a double vote, as that would give them tie breaking power and they could have easily killed someone yesterday (if they were paying attention or on).

Could whoever targeted polantaris have been a possible roleblocker? Not sure what other role would put someone in a straightjacket, although the screaming does not make sense (unless multiple people targeted him). Polantaris; You still in that straitjacket or did they remove it when the night was over?

Razmos Wrote:Ooooh it's not over yet. We've still got to fight for who will be the dominant personality!

Razmos Wrote:Spoiler Alert: We are all figments of VerrKol's imagination.

Razmos Wrote:So.. has anybody entertained the thought of somebody having a split personality and being both Town and Mafia?

MasPan Wrote:
[Vote] Razmos;
Why do you keep trying to divert the conversation?

LuvDWayULie Wrote:All right, I guess it's very customary for me to do this in Day 2/3.

I'm the double voter, believe it or not. FINALLY A TOWNIE ONCE AGAIN OMG. I'm the most popular guy here (As said in the description), so I get two votes. I voted for Ramzos on Day 1 at first because his reason was really poor, but then later I found out that he was new, so I decided to not vote for him and change it to Polantaris instead. I really did not know that the rule about tied votes will be known. I voted for Polantaris because of entirely my gut feeling, and nothing more. I had really no candidates except him.

I'm most probably gonna die tonight, as I'm considered threatening to the mafia.

LuvDWayULie Wrote:Kyrastri; wow wow.. Who was the person to say that Razmos gave a bad reason? You.

LuvDWayULie Wrote:I literally quoted that and said: Really? Then today I gave out this information, because you said that he gave a poor reason. And now you're saying: Oh no, you lied. What the hell? I was merrly following what you said.

Quote: that". This is what you so call "quoted".

LuvDWayULie Wrote:I voted for Ramzos on Day 1 at first because his reason was really poor, but then later I found out that he was new, so I decided to not vote for him and change it to Polantaris instead.

NOWHERE did you say that I said that "his reason was really poor." This is what I was pointing out.

And now you're calling ME the liar for calling you out on what I initially considered a mistake? Please.

I will probably reword this when I'm not so angry.

[quote=Holypie]So far Razmos and Shidoshi have been doused by something smelly? Though Shidoshi didn't say he was soaked so I'm inclined to believe that it's two different smelly things, unless Shidoshi; can confirm that it was indeed a soaking of some sort matching up with Razmos' flavour. It seems odd though, that two people would get hit on the same night.

Razmos Wrote:Do you mean apart from the fact that there is no conversation going on? I don't see what i'm trying to divert here. A lot of people post nonsense not related, I don't get why you are singling me out for it. Unless you expect me to be super serious 100% in every post I make.

Razmos Wrote:I'm inclined to vote for you due to you scapegoating me, but undoubtedly I'd get tons of votes for voting for a flimsy reason again.

Shidoshi Wrote:I was also soaked in a smelling liquid, I just worded it differently for flavour. The possibility of an Arsonist crossed my mind, but it's not like I can do anything about that if it's true. Let the mafia take care of the 3rd parties.

[Vote] Kyrastri
His posts have been the usual long theory-heavy walls, but without investing too much in actual scum hunting. I don't buy his excuses for not voting on Day 1, just as I don't like how he, for example, found LuvD's flip flopping suspicious but didn't vote for him either. That seems like mafia getting a feel for who is the most lynchable player for the Day without committing to actually voting.

Razmos Wrote:Do you mean apart from the fact that there is no conversation going on? I don't see what i'm trying to divert here. A lot of people post nonsense not related, I don't get why you are singling me out for it. Unless you expect me to be super serious 100% in every post I make.

That's a pretty flimsy reason to vote for me anyway. The double standards here are shocking. Nobody can seem to decide what is a good reason for voting and what isn't.

I'm inclined to vote for you due to you scapegoating me, but undoubtedly I'd get tons of votes for voting for a flimsy reason again.

The post about someone having a split personality was a legitimate idea that i had. The other 2 posts were jokes stemming from that.

Holypie Wrote:And Shidoshi, that is really strange, I have no idea why someone would be able to douse two people in the same night.

Holypie Wrote:And Shidoshi, that is really strange, I have no idea why someone would be able to douse two people in the same night.

MasPan Wrote:[COLOR="#cc8899"]Going on the assumption that there is an arsonist, I see a few possible reasons:
1) Somebody has a watcher-type role that either causes them to be hit by whatever their target gets hit by
2) There is some variant of a bus driver role that, instead of redirecting abilities, duplicates them on a second target
3) You and Shidoshi; are somehow linked
4) There are two arsonists? (doubtful)
5) There are two roles with very similar actions for very different reasons. Kyrastri; has a point with regards to bowel movements/body fluids, we are in an insane asylum. If the result PMs you two received are vague enough, it stands to reason one could be mistake for the other
-Edit-
6) Another possibility - one or the other of you is a bodyguard or doctor and got hit while assisting the other.[/COLOR]

ChaoticCJ Wrote:Normally, I would be happy about no townie deaths, but this game is just getting stranger and stranger. Also, my night filled with an unremarkable quiet sleep.




The is only one theory I can think of-that is if both/all of them are telling the truth. Razmos/Shidoshi targets Polantaris with a possible roleblock/watcher/bodyguard/kill//arsonist/doctor/targeting role. There is a conflict between the two and both end up doused (one is the arsonist the other fought back). There is also a possibility of a third party that targeted Polantaris and ended up dousing both Razmos and Shidoshi. It would account for the fact that both were hit by one ability, although so many people targeting 1 person seems unlikely. It still is very strange...


So I guess time for a list:

- Polantaris had a night action taken against him (list above) [The only one?]
- Razmos and Shidoshi were doing "things" and got doused, possible arsonist out there?
- Unevenful night 1 for the rest of us (meow, Kyrastri, Cakes, Hypermug, Holypie(he forgot I guess), Polantaris(tied up), and ChaoticCJ) claim no action.
- MasPan, VerrKol, Luv?(double vote, unlikely to have action unless mafia[even more unlikely]), and Niernen did stuff?

I am still working through some theories, so I am not going to vote yet, but some behaviors have been strange, even accounting for us being just a tad or you know totally insane.

-Goes back to my corner-

Edit: MasPan does have some good theories too.

Holypie Wrote:Razmos was the other person who was doused, not me. I got nothing last night.



I didn't actually forget, nothing happened. That was a joke based on my vagueish amnesiac flavour from D1. Also when did Niernen do stuff?

MasPan Wrote:Oh. Well same theories, just swap Razmos; for Shidoshi;

Holypie Wrote:No, no, it was Razmos and Shidoshi who were doused lol. Where did you get the idea that I was hit?

Holypie Wrote:And Shidoshi, that is really strange, I have no idea why someone would be able to douse two people in the same night.

Shidoshi Wrote:Either way, there's no point focusing on the people who were soaked with smelly liquid. We don't know what it does and if it's a third party's action it means nothing towards our alignment.

Razmos's "there's no actual content here" comment on posts is pretty scummy, mafia isn't normally very interested in reading into posts since they already know who the town/mafia are.

For now I'm going to believe LuvD's story that he's a town double-voter. Of course this game being more on the bastardly side anything would be possible.

Kyrastri gave up on his position of not voting. However, he just went and did an innocuous (and safe) vote on CakesXD for not having talked too much but without carrying much intent of lynching him. His discussion with LuvD is pointless, arguing on things that don't matter at all if he isn't convinced that LuvD is mafia. Yeah, LuvD gave poor reasoning for his behavior, but that's just standard LuvD.