Curtiss Wrote:Oh boy, this sure is a delicious update.

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/the-fine-young-capitalists--2#home - Taken down
http://zvunderbahr.tumblr.com/post/95623249067/thefineyoungcapitalists-indiegogo-page-is-hacked - A look at what happened

It could be someone trying to make use of Zoe's bad publicity, but given everything that's happened it's not very likely. Thoughts?

ChickenKiev Wrote:Notice the capitalized "V" - The Fine Young Capitalists need to investigate this. They need to ask Indiegogo which IP/MAC addresses were accessing the page during the time of the hacking.

Kubi Wrote:To be honest, I didn't even know who this lady was before clicking on this thread. But from reading through everything I come across as well as doing some of my own research on the matter... She just can't be trusted, as I can just see her as a selfish hypocrite. There are so many sides to this, and from the looks of it she's just been trying to spin the blame/criticisms and play the innocent/victim/blame/etc cards, while this Phil Fish guy is doing the same while acting like he's having a temper tantrum just cause people don't agree or support him. The more they do with these random stunts and behavior, the deeper they're digging themselves.

I don't trust her releasing her game called 'Depression Quest' (if you can even call it a game, when it could well be a book) on the day of Robin William's death to actually help people. Whatever way you look at it, it's downright respectful to the people that do care about Robin. Couldn't it have waited until later when people aren't still shocked or mourning over him and give some breathing space or consideration? So, it's pretty clear to me that she's just trying to gain publicity in whatever way she can. It's similar to what PeTA does to gain publicity, doesn't matter if it's good or bad - pulling stunts and trying to leech off big news. In the case for this lady, she started something big that spiraled out of her control. I don't want to sound like a jerk, but this is what her arrogance can do. They think they can fool the people to gain support, cause they thought up of a plan that couldn't possibly fail, with those victim/feminism/etc cards as backup... But when it actually backfires and runs out of cards, she's going through drastic measures in trying to clear herself as innocent. So it seems like she's just trying to pull off whatever stunt she can to protect herself while trying put the blame/topic on something else.

xBTAx Wrote:She got approval to release it on Steam minutes before the news broke. She asked on Twitter if people wanted her to release it still or to wait a while because she was worried about it being seen as this. Many people said they found the game helpful to them and so she should release it.

xBTAx Wrote:She got approval to release it on Steam minutes before the news broke. She asked on Twitter if people wanted her to release it still or to wait a while because she was worried about it being seen as this. Many people said they found the game helpful to them and so she should release it.

xBTAx Wrote:2. The problem with their "women making games" thing while centering it around the ideas is, well, that the only woman guaranteed to be involved is the winner whose name they'll stick on it, as opposed to using female developers, and backers can morph that idea so even that involvement is limited. Not only are women not actually making the game, but that's not even something the winner can really put on their resume and gain any benefit from like they claim, so the contest is pretty flawed from an actually helping women standpoint. That's part of the problem, beyond the percentage of money thing being so low.

xBTAx Wrote:3. The trans issue is that many trans women who would need a contest like this to make their game likely would not be able to afford (and even then, don't necessarily want) bottom surgery. This was said to them at the time. It's my understanding that their policy is more open now, though, so good on them if that's the case.

xBTAx Wrote:Also, Khaini, I don't get my information from "news sites".

xBTAx Wrote:3. The trans issue is that many trans women who would need a contest like this to make their game likely would not be able to afford (and even then, don't necessarily want) bottom surgery. This was said to them at the time. It's my understanding that their policy is more open now, though, so good on them if that's the case.

Quote:She got approval to release it on Steam minutes before the news broke. She asked on Twitter if people wanted her to release it still or to wait a while because she was worried about it being seen as this. Many people said they found the game helpful to them and so she should release it.

Quote:So I am launching the game. Quietly. I will not be promoting it until a respectful time later. But I want it to be out there and available in all the ways I can make it be available so that if someone needs it, they have it. After agonizing over it and asking the general public, they’ve overwhelmingly responded with pleas to release it. Especially among depression sufferers.

Quote:The problem with their "women making games" thing while centering it around the ideas is, well, that the only woman guaranteed to be involved is the winner whose name they'll stick on it, as opposed to using female developers, and backers can morph that idea so even that involvement is limited. Not only are women not actually making the game, but that's not even something the winner can really put on their resume and gain any benefit from like they claim, so the contest is pretty flawed from an actually helping women standpoint. That's part of the problem, beyond the percentage of money thing being so low.

ChickenKiev Wrote:https://twitter.com/HeyZeusShaveZ/status/503325313107910656/photo/1
Zoe Quinn confirmed for making reddit take down any posts regarding her.

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KhainiWest Wrote:https://twitter.com/ObeliskDR/status/504066193431724032

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