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[1.2.175] Two more job classes - NoJobNoRules - 2008-10-31
I still don't see a full run of KoC characters taking down HT or The Boss in Showa. At best, it would be a mix of regular 4th jobs and these guys.
Bishops and DrKs would still have a purpose, and bowmen if sharp eyes is nerfed on the new ones. Otherwise, the rest are about useless...
[1.2.175] Two more job classes - HALCALI - 2008-11-01
If Nexon isnt careful they could ruin the entire game by adding these new classes, im starting to worry....
[1.2.175] Two more job classes - Serpendiem - 2008-11-01
NoJobNoRules Wrote:I still don't see a full run of KoC characters taking down HT or The Boss in Showa. At best, it would be a mix of regular 4th jobs and these guys.
A lv120 can't hit ht unless these new classes get insane accuracy or their miss/hit formula is different
[1.2.175] Two more job classes - NoJobNoRules - 2008-11-01
Ah, right. How could I forget accuracy?
Ty, Serp.So the 4th jobs would be the backbones still for bossing, but most other things can be done by the new ones...a bit better, but there still needs work done on the scale of things. :X
[1.2.175] Two more job classes - Icedfire - 2008-11-01
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i find it more than a bit disheartening that the programmers didn't think of problems before they put it in tespia.
such as giving what equates to a ranged hero a charge, or not giving mages max MG. skill wise, these classes are broken at the moment. otherwise, as far as level cap, AP, and the beginner skill go, they're fine. most of the 1st job skills are fine as well, just that MG needs to be fixed f3.
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[1.2.175] Two more job classes - Kirov - 2008-11-01
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most of the 1st job skills are fine as well, just that MG needs to be fixed f3.
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The 42% mg isnt all that bad, considering they appear to have that broken 100% mp eater combined with flame heal. They arent even released for testing yet so it could easily be changed still.
[1.2.175] Two more job classes - Holypie - 2008-11-01
flame heal+mp eater = instant spam anywhere
[1.2.175] Two more job classes - HiiEN - 2008-11-01
Healing won't do anything when monsters can 1hko you more often though.
[1.2.175] Two more job classes - ItachiPower - 2008-11-01
So, I don't understand whats wrong with MPEater here; does it recover mp based on 100% of your damage?
[1.2.175] Two more job classes - Holypie - 2008-11-01
OMG i just realized! broken mp eater+meteo= ultimate spamming with no MP loss!
[1.2.175] Two more job classes - Kirov - 2008-11-01
ItachiPower Wrote:So, I don't understand whats wrong with MPEater here; does it recover mp based on 100% of your damage?
This should clear things up for you.
Fiel Wrote:MP Eater is ridiculously broken. I won't even bother to post a skill tree. It's 20 levels maximum. For each level, +5% of your damage also restores your MP. So this means at level 20, 100% of your damage is restored to MP. There is no probability listed, so it's an assumed 100% probability. How broken, right?
HiiEN Wrote:Healing won't do anything when monsters can 1hko you more often though.
If that became an apparent problem i am sure the mg % or base hp would be increased before they came out of testing.
[1.2.175] Two more job classes - DrRusty - 2008-11-02
ItachiPower Wrote:So, I don't understand whats wrong with MPEater here; does it recover mp based on 100% of your damage?
If you do 1,000 damage, then you get 1,000 MP back in return. If you use an ultimate and do 50,000 x 15 then you get that much MP back
.In other words, it makes infinity almost obsolete.
[1.2.175] Two more job classes - Fiel - 2008-11-02
DrRusty Wrote:If you do 1,000 damage, then you get 1,000 MP back in return. If you use an ultimate and do 50,000 x 15 then you get that much MP back
In other words, it makes infinity almost obsolete.
Wellll, not quite.
The enemy mob has to have that amount of MP first. That's how MP eater has always worked.
[1.2.175] Two more job classes - DrRusty - 2008-11-02
Fiel Wrote:Wellll, not quite.
The enemy mob has to have that amount of MP first. That's how MP eater has always worked.
Well true. Don't bosses have thousands of MP? If you spammed flame heal at a boss; you could theroetically keep your hp/mp full the whole time and still do damage. That's assuming flame heal doesn't work on just undead.
[1.2.175] Two more job classes - BloodEye - 2008-11-02
I'm slightly dissapointed that the new classes don't have sets of clothes for themselves. Considering the change in play I was hoping for a little wardrobe change as well.... or maybe they just haven't gotten to that yet?
[1.2.175] Two more job classes - Colyo - 2008-11-02
Looking at this, all of the KoC classes are -insanely- overpowered. Is there any evidence of a serious nerf to prevent them from completley stomping everyone else?
[1.2.175] Two more job classes - Holypie - 2008-11-02
DrRusty Wrote:Well true. Don't bosses have thousands of MP? If you spammed flame heal at a boss; you could theroetically keep your hp/mp full the whole time and still do damage. That's assuming flame heal doesn't work on just undead.wouldn't a more effective strategy be to alternate flame heal and meteo? and flame heal would most likely hit all monsters, or only ice
[1.2.175] Two more job classes - NoJobNoRules - 2008-11-02
Colyo Wrote:Looking at this, all of the KoC classes are -insanely- overpowered. Is there any evidence of a serious nerf to prevent them from completley stomping everyone else?
As of right now, no. However, they only exist in TESPIA. Tespia is the test server for them, which would mean they are testing the classes. I'm sure we'll see more tweaking as time goes on, so I wouldn't be that worried about them until the real kMS servers get them.
[1.2.175] Two more job classes - Serene - 2008-11-02
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all these classes seem so broken ._.
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[1.2.175] Two more job classes - Kurtle - 2008-11-02
I would actually take up the Soul Warrior, not simply because it's overpowered atm, but because i like the added mobility and its quasi-mage-like attacks.