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[1.2.400] Dojo Revamp - Blades4hire - 2011-08-27
Sorien Wrote:Magic Crash doesn't undo Damage Reflect, it can only prevent the buff from being cast in the first place. Meaning that if the warrior isn't lucky and casts crash too soon or too late, there's nothing he/she can do about it. Oh and now that monsters can't have crash used on them more than once per minute, it'll be even harder to time it right.Anyone who has a chance of being in the top 50 shouldn't take more than a few seconds to kill lilynouch anyway. It can't cast DR if it's dead.
[1.2.400] Dojo Revamp - White - 2011-08-27
Sorien Wrote:Magic Crash doesn't undo Damage Reflect, it can only prevent the buff from being cast in the first place. Meaning that if the warrior isn't lucky and casts crash too soon or too late, there's nothing he/she can do about it. Oh and now that monsters can't have crash used on them more than once per minute, it'll be even harder to time it right.
I guess you don't realize that Lily uses DR at half hp, not based on time. So unless you can kill it in like 1 second, it'll use DR. I'd know, I'm a very strong BM yet it always gets it's DR off.
[1.2.400] Dojo Revamp - Sorien - 2011-08-27
White Wrote:I guess you don't realize that Lily uses DR at half hp, not based on time. So unless you can kill it in like 1 second, it'll use DR. I'd know, I'm a very strong BM yet it always gets it's DR off.
Oh, I was always under the impression that it cast damage reflect at random. Still, I'm not so sure Magic Crash is going to automatically limit the top 50 ranks to be limited only to warriors.
[1.2.400] Dojo Revamp - Valon - 2011-08-27
sounds like pg hack+godmode = top 50
[1.2.400] Dojo Revamp - White - 2011-08-27
Sorien Wrote:Oh, I was always under the impression that it cast damage reflect at random. Still, I'm not so sure Magic Crash is going to automatically limit the top 50 ranks to be limited only to warriors.
While it's not necessarily true, that extra free 15 seconds will definitely put the bar lower for warriors to get in the top 50 vs other classes.
Not sure what smart-kb has to do with this.
[1.2.400] Dojo Revamp - bast963 - 2011-08-27
White Wrote:I guess you don't realize that Lily uses DR at half hp, not based on time. So unless you can kill it in like 1 second, it'll use DR. I'd know, I'm a very strong BM yet it always gets it's DR off.
So it activates without the boss even needing an animation? Just half hp?
Wow, so much for Aran and his ridiculous Overswing that locks things into KB so easily. If the boss doesn't even need animations to DR, then the KB method is out the window now. Now it's truly hackers/adventurer warriors only.
[1.2.400] Dojo Revamp - White - 2011-08-27
Nah, lily floats up a bit and turns purple, DR activates shortly into the animation. Not really sure but can an aran keep a mob perma-kb'd? Instant you let it up it'll DR.
[1.2.400] Dojo Revamp - Locked - 2011-08-27
Arans and bowmasters tend to perma-KB.
[1.2.400] Dojo Revamp - Liteness - 2011-08-27
bast963 Wrote:So it activates without the boss even needing an animation? Just half hp?
Wow, so much for Aran and his ridiculous Overswing that locks things into KB so easily. If the boss doesn't even need animations to DR, then the KB method is out the window now. Now it's truly hackers/adventurer warriors only.
....arans have no need for smart kb, our mass kb works on bosses if you do the amount of dmg it needs to kb them, ever watch arans VS pap vids? yea
[1.2.400] Dojo Revamp - White - 2011-08-27
Locked Wrote:Arans and bowmasters tend to perma-KB.
In the sense of prohibiting animations from occuring. For example, CoH and Barrage both have an auto-kb thing that basically freezes the monster so it can't do anything until about after the skill finishes, meaning lily couldn't use DR because it's kb'd. But that kb/freeze cannot be perma maintained. My question was whether Arans are somehow able to maintain a perma frozen/kb state so lily can't use DR. My assumption is no, but Liteness is confusing me.
[1.2.400] Dojo Revamp - Locked - 2011-08-27
White Wrote:In the sense of prohibiting animations from occuring. For example, CoH and Barrage both have an auto-kb thing that basically freezes the monster so it can't do anything until about after the skill finishes, meaning lily couldn't use DR because it's kb'd. But that kb/freeze cannot be perma maintained. My question was whether Arans are somehow able to maintain a perma frozen/kb state so lily can't use DR. My assumption is no, but Liteness is confusing me.
Perma KB as in, their attacks are formed in a way that keep knockback constant. Just like Hurricane.
[video=youtube;TJtIFbjDptQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJtIFbjDptQ[/video]
[1.2.400] Dojo Revamp - Dark Zero - 2011-08-27
for longer time bosses warriors are doomed since Crash has now a cooldown of 1 minute.
[1.2.400] Dojo Revamp - RADRaze2KX - 2011-08-28
Eliseo Wrote:Arans with their combo drain.... So unfair.
As an Evan, I got MP recovery, but well, that could save me some seconds I guess. Oh well.
How about BaM's with drain on every attack? Not to mention Twister Spin 30 which grants 50% playtime invincibility, and ABA+Body Boost, which shaves off another 10 Seconds of vulnerability time... ? Fair enough yet?
[1.2.400] Dojo Revamp - Eliseo - 2011-08-28
RADRaze2KX Wrote:How about BaM's with drain on every attack? Not to mention Twister Spin 30 which grants 50% playtime invincibility, and ABA+Body Boost, which shaves off another 10 Seconds of vulnerability time... ? Fair enough yet?
....Anyway, I'll try to get to the top 50, shoudn't be hard if a hacking will make someone be in the top 50 spots. Some pq's seem to favor classes with drain like skills. And by some, I mean all.
[1.2.400] Dojo Revamp - RADRaze2KX - 2011-08-28
This whole ordeal seems so unfair to mages of all kinds (except BaMs). Bishops, especially... Top 50? Good luck on top 500 x]
[1.2.400] Dojo Revamp - Green4Ever - 2011-08-28
Holy crap this looks promising, do want.
[1.2.400] Dojo Revamp - JoeTang - 2011-08-28
RADRaze2KX Wrote:This whole ordeal seems so unfair to mages of all kinds (except BaMs). Bishops, especially... Top 50? Good luck on top 500 x]
Why would anyone want to waste such amazing gloves on a Bishop I don't even
[1.2.400] Dojo Revamp - happylight - 2011-08-28
RADRaze2KX Wrote:This whole ordeal seems so unfair to mages of all kinds (except BaMs). Bishops, especially... Top 50? Good luck on top 500 x]
Why bishop especially? I can solo the current dojo and lily fine. If anything I'd say bishops have an advantage being able to heal.
JoeTang Wrote:Why would anyone want to waste such amazing gloves on a Bishop I don't even
Bite me.
[1.2.400] Dojo Revamp - Blades4hire - 2011-08-28
RADRaze2KX Wrote:This whole ordeal seems so unfair to mages of all kinds (except BaMs). Bishops, especially... Top 50? Good luck on top 500 x]Considering F/Ps 1 hit 95% of the bosses with that mist explosion thing...
[1.2.400] Dojo Revamp - shakar96 - 2011-08-28
JoeTang Wrote:Why would anyone want to waste such amazing gloves on a Bishop I don't even
People whose main is a bishop. Besides, it's not worth it since the gloves last for a day.