aslemn Wrote:I don't get the logic on LHC map, although it looks good. Looks like a pretty weird castle, and... You walk inside the walls?! And if not, why the hell are lower dots than others?
Makes no sense to me :S

SEAmapler Wrote:Lvl70+ warriors: (these prize go for players already with warriors)

dark knight (dark impale 30)

(It can raise from lvl10 to 30 wtp?? and it works 100%)

SEAmapler Wrote:dark knight (dark impale 30) and hero (advanced final attack 30) get new skill books
(It can raise from lvl10 to 30 wtp?? and it works 100%)

Dusk Wrote:Only makes sense; imagine the chaos if suddenly every Hero and DrK was looking for their skillbooks for their new skills.

^No, that's for the actual patch. The skillbooks have to be thrown in so that people who don't get a free book from the event can get the skills later on.

Takebacker Wrote:Balanced.

No it isn't. Using "plays like maple" as an excuse is silly because you're not distinguishing between pot cooldown systems or normal ones. Surivability normally is only to save pots. In pot cooldown it's an entirely different (and necessary) role and i'm sure you're aware of it.

>Party dies

>Party play
>Implies training

When the hell would that ever happen?

Magic is always weaker than physical to begin with and for the most part always survivable on a normal scale/avoidable, so there being little difference between classes in respect to magic tanking doesn't matter.

Divine shield does it's job. Guardian prevents all hits. Shield mastery requiring a shield, thus reducing damage, does not make sense. Did you forget shields can have potential? A well scrolled shield WILL beat a 2h sword. Paladins getting more bonuses from wearing it just makes it better.

As fiel said, threaten is god. It severely decreases PDR as well as damage dished out. I really don't know how you could want any party skill other than threaten AND YOU STILL GET COMBAT ORDERS.

Baklava Wrote:Hardly balanced because I'm still going to stress that defense is useless and you're not going to always find monsters that are optimally weak to an element.

Are you saying that it's balanced for a Paladin to deal half of what a Hero/Dark Knight could do provided you have every optimal scenario in play, just because they take about 2-3k less damage?

Bosses with potion cool down systems don't matter, just get a bishop problem solved?

Saying that survivability is useful for "saving potions" is an even stupider excuse because potions are SO CHEAP now and easy bosses like papulatus drop 100-300 power elixirs per kill and that's good for a LONG time.

Shields can get STR potential, I realize that, but you'd have to get a SUPER potential like 6/9/9% to be able to overtake 2h swords, and even then it'd just be by a bit because of the lower attack/STR multiplier for 1h swords.

Not to mention that Heroes could go 1h sword as well and be even better!
Dark Knights aren't counted because Dark Impale is stupid fast and stupid strong, and their weapons have a much higher multiplier.

Threaten and Combat Orders are good, but they also make every other class in the party better too.
Heroes/Dark Knights working off threaten and combat orders, good lord.

Paladins are basically just solo bishops and buff mules in a party.

Paladins need something that allow them to really reduce damage taken by the party, and not just themselves, to be balanced.

I could live with inferior damage if I could make the entire party take 30% less physical/magical damage.

And guess what, battle mages and arans have those skills. (Aegis Shield, Blue Aura)

SEAmapler Wrote:[video=youtube;JIsw5RdcbuI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIsw5RdcbuI&feature=player_embedded[/video]
Another vid on Dark Impale. Its fast.
Note: The weapon speed of the weapon at the start is slow. The 2nd weapon speed is normal.

Currently, in tespia, when you create new warrior you are awarded with these items:

1st job: Swordmen Ring: 100hp/50mp 1att/matt 3% crit (movable through storage!!!)

Lvl10,20,25: Awarded a random box with equips

2nd job: Warrior's one/two hand weapon att 60% (+3att , +3str, +1 dex) and 1 hour long 1.5x exp buff

3rd job: Same as second job

4th job: ???

Lvl70+ warriors: (these prize go for players already with warriors) :
One choice: (For Pallys only since they didn't get new skill)
-Mystery Mastery Book
-Blast 30
-Sanctuary/Heaven's Hammer 30
-Guardian Spirit 30
-Rush 30
-Stance 30

dark knight (dark impale 30) and hero (advanced final attack 30) get new skill books
(It can raise from lvl10 to 30 wtp?? and it works 100%)

About treasure monsters:

You can find treasure monsters in every map (lvl15+) and they have special green name tag
15~70: They drop scrolls and monster park ticket (brown one)
71~120: They drop scrolls and monster park ticket (white one)
121+: They drop mystery mastery scroll (currently in tespia they are not being dropped 100%), scrolls, chaos scroll, special chaos scroll (the chaos scroll that adds +10 or -10), adv pot/enhance, etc.

Credits to Ellinforest

PirateIzzy Wrote:Based on how often the monsters miss on him, I'd say the miss glitch in GMS isn't a glitch at all (I hope I'm wrong.)

Phoenix Wrote:Ew )= Yeah seems they have that invinci frame issue as well....

Phoenix Wrote:I don;t think any actual paladin can complain about the situation they're in. First, Shield+1 hand sword is ALWAYS better than 2 hand with regards to potential and weapon speed.e a much shorter cooldown?
Second threaten is probably the best support skill in the game, and pre-BB it provided even better survivability than HB on certain bosses. And now it's still an amazing skill, so what if it allows other classes to deal more damage...

And the damage dealt is not even so far behind heroes. Especially when you take in account a 94% mastery rate and super high crit rate.

And Survivability is an enormous issue in actual bossing environment with pot lock/sed/Pot cooldowns, and Pallies are better than any class in those situations bar none.

Baklava Wrote:Player avoid actually makes a difference now, I think...




Because it's exactly like what I said? Paladins act as buff/debuff mules without any true upside like being able to significantly reduce party damage, which has always come as a standard for RPG Paladins.
Threaten makes everyone better, damage wise, so does Combat Orders.

What super high crit rate? Blast? I still feel like ACB would be better at bosses like Zakum/HT so you can hit every single summon at HT and multiple arms at Zakum. That and crit damage isn't that high, it's like a maximum of x1.2 or something.

POTION LOCK/POTION COOLDOWN, BISHOP'S GOT THAT DOWN. Paladins can't recover MP.
And you could just shuffle between the party's Hero's Wills to get past seduce. Doesn't it hav

Phoenix Wrote:I'm just saying that Pally's are far from the loladins of the past. A party absorb skill or the transformation of Divine shield into a Party skill would be nice, but I could live without it.

byakugan Wrote:Why are some people complaining that it isnt fair for paladins to be weak just because they got huge defense? are paladins really weak? That is only true when they are compared to Heroes and Dark Knights in KMST, and even there they aren't any weak (I believe they are even with DrK's though) However 1 - No one here knows yet if the damage of panic and coma is calculated the same way as it is right now which could turn out into heroes being weaker than what everyone expects, 2 - it's still in testing, it can be changed.

About the idea of giving paladins a party skill that absorbs damage taken by his teammates, I think the skill's idea is great but giving it to a Paladin? i'm not sure. That would definitely make them into the best buffers in the game, and having the best buffs, the best defense and good damage doesn't sound balanced. Replace combat orders with this skill, and give combat orders to bishops (although it'd make more sense given to Heroes, [DrK = HB; Palis = Defense skill; Heroes = CO] but people might complain) and then I would agree

Phoenix Wrote:Does Blue aura for BaM's still kill the BaM when 1/1 occurs, they should really rethink 1/1 attacks in general.

And I thought DS as a party skill would work in the sense, that ALL party members would get the 5 hit block effect when it activates as well the weapon attack boost.

byakugan Wrote:Why are some people complaining that it isnt fair for paladins to be weak just because they got huge defense? are paladins really weak? That is only true when they are compared to Heroes and Dark Knights in KMST, and even there they aren't any weak (I believe they are even with DrK's though) However 1 - No one here knows yet if the damage of panic and coma is calculated the same way as it is right now which could turn out into heroes being weaker than what everyone expects, 2 - it's still in testing, it can be changed.

About the idea of giving paladins a party skill that absorbs damage taken by his teammates, I think the skill's idea is great but giving it to a Paladin? i'm not sure. That would definitely make them into the best buffers in the game, and having the best buffs, the best defense and good damage doesn't sound balanced. Replace combat orders with this skill, and give combat orders to bishops (although it'd make more sense given to Heroes, [DrK = HB; Palis = Defense skill; Heroes = CO] but people might complain) and then I would agree