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The Archer Discussion Thread - Locked - 2011-02-17

I honestly don't get the problem with saving SP.

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The Archer Discussion Thread - Kevo - 2011-02-17

I'm sure you're being sarcastic but anyway... obviously there's something to be gained by spending points in any skill. Not spending points only shows the indecisiveness and possibly lack of initiative of the player. Since I'm torn between many alternatives, I posted in this thread for help.

The Archer Discussion Thread - Locked - 2011-02-17

Kevo Wrote:I'm sure you're being sarcastic but anyway... obviously there's something to be gained by spending points in any skill. Not spending points only shows the indecisiveness of the player. Since I'm torn between many alternatives, I posted in this thread for help.

Well to give you a more serious answer, I would just save the SP. The 8 points into Marksmanship aren't really that great compared to the 8 points into Marksman Boost. 8 Points into Pierce would be useless, and your other skills aren't as important.

The Archer Discussion Thread - Punch - 2011-02-17

SE 20, because I'm often asked to go on boss runs since I'm one of the only and top BMs in my server..
Plus, I can't find SE 30.. stupid WHs..

I don't see why that guide doesn't mention Concentrate 1, Phoenix 1, and Dragon 1.. since all are very important..

I can't afford or find BE 30.. and Hurricane 20 is also never seen in my server.. so what are my options, really? >_>
Gonna put Hurricane to 20 next.. then look for all three skills for 30.. blehh

And for the Engaw, I don't wanna make a perfect one yet because I can't afford it and it'll take forever.. plus, don't have 125 STR yet -.- (only 110 D Smile

I suppose a Nisrock will have to do.. scroll a better one ya think?

Ty.

The Archer Discussion Thread - Locked - 2011-02-17

Punch Wrote:SE 20, because I'm often asked to go on boss runs since I'm one of the only and top BMs in my server..
Plus, I can't find SE 30.. stupid WHs..

The people you boss with are ignorant and need to know that sharp eyes isn't that great of a damage buff. Decent Sharp Eyes is the same as Sharp Eyes 20.

Quote:I don't see why that guide doesn't mention Concentrate 1, Phoenix 1, and Dragon 1.. since all are very important..

The purpose of it is to tell you the order of which skills to max first. 1 Phoenix is not that great, as level 15 Hawk outdamages it.

Quote:I can't afford or find BE 30.. and Hurricane 20 is also never seen in my server.. so what are my options, really? >_>
Gonna put Hurricane to 20 next.. then look for all three skills for 30.. blehh

I've failed 23 SE30s. I think you can live with saving SP for a while.

Quote:And for the Engaw, I don't wanna make a perfect one yet because I can't afford it and it'll take forever.. plus, don't have 125 STR yet -.- (only 110 D
I suppose a Nisrock will have to do.. scroll a better one ya think?

There's nothing wrong with the bow you have now.

The Archer Discussion Thread - Punch - 2011-02-17

Locked Wrote:The people you boss with are ignorant and need to know that sharp eyes isn't that great of a damage buff. Decent Sharp Eyes is the same as Sharp Eyes 20.

The purpose of it is to tell you the order of which skills to max first. 1 Phoenix is not that great, as level 15 Hawk outdamages it.

I've failed 23 SE30s. I think you can live with saving SP for a while.

There's nothing wrong with the bow you have now.

So where does that leave me to upgrade, really?
And no.. SE isn't a great damage boost.. but it's still a damage boost..
I don't mind saving SP? I saved 13 SP until I used it.. and now im just gonna invest my money into maxing Hurricane/Bow Expert..
Since my equips are okay?
My equips: +18 All Helm
Level 13 Ring.. and Resistance Ring
3% DEX Earrings and Shoes.. both clean.. shoes = 9 dex clean
3% DEX Overall, scrolled fully for 17 DEX (3 STR)
2% DEX Cape (worst equip)
21 STR Potential (3-line) Gloves, scrolled fully (4/5) for 8 Attack (best equip I think Tongue

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Mark of Narcissism
And my bow..
111 Attack Dark Nisrock, Enhanced Twice, with 3-line Potential = 3% Attack, nothing special
And a Yellow Belt.

The Archer Discussion Thread - fodjgngf - 2011-02-17

Upgrade your belt. Always aim for a better bow. Your overall needs some help. Don't 100% it just spend the time and money 60%ing it. Scroll your earring for dex thats another big step. Find a new cape 75+ 3 lined and scroll it for STR / DEX.

The Archer Discussion Thread - Locked - 2011-02-17

Punch Wrote:So where does that leave me to upgrade, really?
And no.. SE isn't a great damage boost.. but it's still a damage boost..
I don't mind saving SP? I saved 13 SP until I used it.. and now im just gonna invest my money into maxing Hurricane/Bow Expert..
Since my equips are okay?
My equips: +18 All Helm
Level 13 Ring.. and Resistance Ring
3% DEX Earrings and Shoes.. both clean.. shoes = 9 dex clean
3% DEX Overall, scrolled fully for 17 DEX (3 STR)
2% DEX Cape (worst equip)
21 STR Potential (3-line) Gloves, scrolled fully (4/5) for 8 Attack (best equip I think )
Mark of Narcissism
And my bow..
111 Attack Dark Nisrock, Enhanced Twice, with 3-line Potential = 3% Attack, nothing special
And a Yellow Belt.

This is what I did when I was upgrading my bowmaster after potential came out. The first thing I did is potential everything, obviously. So you're done with that step. After this I decided to upgrade my bow. Given the fact that you're in a new server, there isn't much to upgrade. Try to get a minimum of 3% DEX in everything, this way you would have a decent 21%ish DEX. First thing you should upgrade would be your cape, then your belt. After your belt upgrade your gloves then your overall. I'm looking at this from being in a new server perspective, I don't think you're really in need of much upgrading since the only upgrading you need would be potential and not the equips themselves.

fodjgngf Wrote:Upgrade your belt. Always aim for a better bow. Your overall needs some help. Don't 100% it just spend the time and money 60%ing it. Scroll your earring for dex thats another big step. Find a new cape 75+ 3 lined and scroll it for STR / DEX.

He's in a new server. Can't upgrade for sh`it because Weapon ATT 50% for 2-handed weapons don't exist.

The Archer Discussion Thread - fodjgngf - 2011-02-18

How did people do it before? OH YEA 30%'s and some luck. Don't give me that 50%'s dont exsist they had gach boxes too.

The Archer Discussion Thread - MariettaRC - 2011-02-18

fodjgngf Wrote:How did people do it before? OH YEA 30%'s and some luck. Don't give me that 50%'s dont exsist they had gach boxes too.

Note that he said 50% for two-handed weapons. THOSE don't exist there. 50% Bow ATT scrolls probably cost a crapton over there, and I mean more than what they're worth in other servers, so you KNOW that's out of the question on a newer server.

Okay, so I finally got my earrings to Unique. Sadly, 6% DEX doesn't seem to want to go away. Should I keep it that way and work on getting my other equips to Unique or should I get my earrings to 9% DEX and do the same for my other stuff after? Everything except for my hat (3% DEX Red Hunter, waiting for a CZak helm chance) and my bow (+12 ATT Rare) is epic with at least 6% DEX (specs are 4%). My overall, earrings, gloves and cape are Unique.

I also scrolled 14 ATT, 3 line Machine Gloves, but I'm not sure if I should work on those now or after I cube my other stuff more (current gloves are 14 ATT, 9% DEX).

The Archer Discussion Thread - CarrionCrow - 2011-02-18

fodjgngf Wrote:How did people do it before? OH YEA 30%'s and some luck. Don't give me that 50%'s dont exsist they had gach boxes too.

As far as I know boxes did not drop, it was just the old gold and silver ones people had in stock that was used this last time. I did not find a single box anyway.

The Archer Discussion Thread - Locked - 2011-02-18

fodjgngf Wrote:How did people do it before? OH YEA 30%'s and some luck. Don't give me that 50%'s dont exsist they had gach boxes too.

Gotta be sh`itting me if you're telling me he's going to 30% every 3-line bow he comes across in hopes of landing a decent attack bow. Gachapon boxes did not even drop, which I thought was retarded as hell, holding an event where the event item didn't drop. So like stated above, 50% for Bow ATT don't exist there either.

The Archer Discussion Thread - fodjgngf - 2011-02-18

It's how it was done before man.. :/ and yeah actually the boxes did drop very infrequently though. I've asked my zenith buddies they all said they've found them.

The Archer Discussion Thread - Locked - 2011-02-18

fodjgngf Wrote:It's how it was done before man.. :/ and yeah actually the boxes did drop very infrequently though. I've asked my zenith buddies they all said they've found them.

I know how it was done before, but we're in the present now. What we've done in the past no longer applies to this. I remember I used to use the Shoe Maker and the Glove Refiner to make my equips. No one does that anymore.

The Archer Discussion Thread - fodjgngf - 2011-02-19

It's a new server, I don't get why the old system is so.. like not possible.

I've made some great bows doing it that way. 30% one bow, if it passes scroll another, get like 5-10 +1 bows. Collect the +2 bows and keep going from there. It's a good way to scroll if you've got the time and willing to put the effort into it.

I don't understand why you're shooting things down so hard.

The Archer Discussion Thread - MariettaRC - 2011-02-19

So I decided to keep cubing my earrings for at least 9% DEX.

My luck is amazing. Big Grin

(Posted in the Potential thread already but since we talk about what we're upgrading as archers anyway, felt it was appropriate to repost. Tongue

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The Archer Discussion Thread - HighOnMushrooms - 2011-02-26

I just failed 3 BE30s, and now I have no more money left to buy another one. Sad

The Archer Discussion Thread - Alilatias - 2011-02-27

HighOnMushrooms Wrote:I just failed 3 BE30s, and now I have no more money left to buy another one.

Dang, that doesn't sound encouraging at all for the two Bowmasters in my guild. One of which is at a level in which he's actively searching for BE30 in Windia.

Gah, raging so much at the fact that fighting the mobs in Golden Temple that are at my level range is actually SLOWER than Arrow Raining Captains/Kru. Looks like it really is Captains/Kru until 4th job for me.

I'm at Level 114 now, in which I originally planned to be 120 by now, had life not suddenly decided to stricken my 13-year-old dog with blindness (which forced me off Maple for a full week about two weeks ago). Gaaaahhh, I can't quit now, not when I've been wanting to do this for three years and when I'm finally so close...

The Archer Discussion Thread - MariettaRC - 2011-02-28

Alilatias Wrote:Dang, that doesn't sound encouraging at all for the two Bowmasters in my guild. One of which is at a level in which he's actively searching for BE30 in Windia.

Gah, raging so much at the fact that fighting the mobs in Golden Temple that are at my level range is actually SLOWER than Arrow Raining Captains/Kru. Looks like it really is Captains/Kru until 4th job for me.

I'm at Level 114 now, in which I originally planned to be 120 by now, had life not suddenly decided to stricken my 13-year-old dog with blindness (which forced me off Maple for a full week about two weeks ago). Gaaaahhh, I can't quit now, not when I've been wanting to do this for three years and when I'm finally so close...

Aww, that's terrible about your dog. D: Hope everything's okay now.

If it helps, I passed BE30 on my... second try I think? I forget if it was my first or second but I know I didn't use more than that.

Is Golden Temple really that slow in the 11x levels? That worries me a bit, seeing as I've been rushing my Nightwalker to 120 (she's 110 now) before preparing my Bowmaster some more for LHC...

The Archer Discussion Thread - MariettaRC - 2011-02-28

Eww, how did that happen? Double post. :l