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[Post-Revamp] What would you do for a Bandit build? - Dusk - 2010-07-10
Strongest single target skill in 2nd job isn't sufficient? You have got to be pineappleing kidding me. My Bandit easily got 1400+ CP in CPQ in mid-4x in Room 3/4 summons. That's not ARAN-speed, but that's not slow. Bandits currently outdamage many other classes when they're hitting 2 (or even 3) targets with their mob skill. Count how many targets you're hitting with mob skills some time. See if you can consistently hit anywhere close to max targets with a short range skill like Steal.
Quote:triples your training speed
Sorry, CPQ is going to have to spawn twice as fast and not give exp on wins, and Steal needs to be doing as much damage as SB for that to happen.
[Post-Revamp] What would you do for a Bandit build? - Herborist - 2010-07-10
480% damage to 1 target < 220% damage to 4 targets. Even if steal's damage is only 125%, it's still faster than savage blow provided you can hit the maximum amount of targets, which is very possible in CPQ.
Hitting one monster at a time is slower than hitting multiple monsters. I'm not going to argue this anymore, and I'm especially not going to argue whether 3/4 > 5/6 when a quick check of spiegelman's office in ch 1 is proof enough that there's no one doing 3v3 precisely BECAUSE it's spread out and less mobs for everyone.
But please, feel free to go against the most simple of logic and do as you please. I feel like I'm trying to dissuade you guys from getting on the Hindenburg...
[Post-Revamp] What would you do for a Bandit build? - Dusk - 2010-07-10
"Steal is more powerful than SB"
"Steal is more powerful than SB"
"Steal is more powerful than SB"
This is the only point you've had. Thanks, we don't care. Can someone who actually plays KMS give us an idea of how many gameplay hours it actually takes to get to level 70? And has anyone tried CPQ post-revamp?
[Post-Revamp] What would you do for a Bandit build? - Herborist - 2010-07-10
Dusk Wrote:"Steal is more powerful than SB"
"Steal is more powerful than SB"
"Steal is more powerful than SB"
This is the only point you've had. Thanks, we don't care. Can someone who actually plays KMS give us an idea of how many gameplay hours it actually takes to get to level 70? And has anyone tried CPQ post-revamp?
I'm sorry you're bitter, but if you insist on trolling me then I'll report you. =)
[Post-Revamp] What would you do for a Bandit build? - Dusk - 2010-07-10
Who's bitter? You haven't even attempted to argue against any of our points. All you've done is rehash that one statement over and over again and then sidetrack the discussion to make up for the lack of content in your posts. That's what I mean by "we don't care."
[Post-Revamp] What would you do for a Bandit build? - Herborist - 2010-07-10
Yes, this forum is awesome not like all the others. I'm liking it here. Feel free to take forever to get to 3rd job.
[Post-Revamp] What would you do for a Bandit build? - Dusk - 2010-07-10
Herborist Wrote:Yes, this forum is awesome not like all the others. I'm liking it here. Feel free to take forever to get to 3rd job.
I'm already 3rd job o_o
[Post-Revamp] What would you do for a Bandit build? - FluffyFoxxie - 2010-07-11
Herborist Wrote:Yes, this forum is awesome not like all the others. I'm liking it here. Feel free to take forever to get to 3rd job.
I don't think that levelling slightly faster via maxing steal is worth having a halfway effective booster. Also, why do you keep on talking about CPQ as the fastest means through 2nd job, it only gets you to lvl 51, which is like, 1/4 of the way to lvl 70 (time-taken-wise.) I don't know why you're being so stubborn about the issue, I think most people would be fine with the SLIGHTLY slower training speed through 2nd job in exchange for having maxed booster 'till lvl 200.
[Post-Revamp] What would you do for a Bandit build? - Hanabira.Kage - 2010-07-11
Herborist Wrote:Yes, this forum is awesome not like all the others. I'm liking it here. Feel free to take forever to get to 3rd job.
There are numerous people who've made it to 3rd Job without a mobbing skill as a Bandit. I've done it twice (one's a STR Bandit, and the other's a LUK Bandit).
[Post-Revamp] What would you do for a Bandit build? - Tay - 2010-07-11
Dusk Wrote:"Steal is more powerful than SB"
"Steal is more powerful than SB"
"Steal is more powerful than SB"
This is the only point you've had. Thanks, we don't care. Can someone who actually plays KMS give us an idea of how many gameplay hours it actually takes to get to level 70? And has anyone tried CPQ post-revamp?
I don't have bandit insight but I do have earlylevel insight, most bandits on kMS will go steal first.
Why?
Levels 35-51, I think, are the kerning square levels? There are these monsters in KS called pepe machines and yeti machines. These things give about 90ish EXP for machine, and 81 EXP per pepe. Leveling to 50 is such a joke with these monsters, and 1v1ing those doesnt sound like much fun.
Also, cPQ is now useless. You get about 7k per A rank win. Monsters still have their same EXP and itd be a nice grind, but you could do without it.
[Post-Revamp] What would you do for a Bandit build? - Hanabira.Kage - 2010-07-11
Tay Wrote:I don't have bandit insight but I do have earlylevel insight, most bandits on kMS will go steal first.
Why?
Levels 35-51, I think, are the kerning square levels? There are these monsters in KS called pepe machines and yeti machines. These things give about 90ish EXP for machine, and 81 EXP per pepe. Leveling to 50 is such a joke with these monsters, and 1v1ing those doesnt sound like much fun.
Also, cPQ is now useless. You get about 7k per A rank win. Monsters still have their same EXP and itd be a nice grind, but you could do without it.
I'd do it for the necklace (and perhaps the Lv50 weapon x.x), though.
How about CPQ2?
p.s. WHAT?! NEXON INCREASED THE EXP GIVEN BY THE TOYS FROM THE MACHINES?! I so wanna play in KMS now.
How about CPQ2?
p.s. WHAT?! NEXON INCREASED THE EXP GIVEN BY THE TOYS FROM THE MACHINES?! I so wanna play in KMS now.
[Post-Revamp] What would you do for a Bandit build? - Tay - 2010-07-11
Hanabira.Kage Wrote:I'd do it for the necklace (and perhaps the Lv50 weapon x.x), though.
How about CPQ2?
p.s. WHAT?! NEXON INCREASED THE EXP GIVEN BY THE TOYS FROM THE MACHINES?! I so wanna play in KMS now.
I don't really know about cPQ2.
On kMS cPQ2 monsters only gave 1EXP, but I don't know if they changed it.
Small tidbit;
Also, gotta say SP + Assaulter may outdamage SP+SB. I haven't really looked into, with my assaulter being lv5, but I know for sure I 1hko things with assaulter that I don't with SB (assuming I'm using Max Shadow Partner for all these scenarios.)
[Post-Revamp] What would you do for a Bandit build? - Locked - 2010-07-11
CPQ with full rombots is like 1-2 level every PQ at level 30-46.
[Post-Revamp] What would you do for a Bandit build? - Scaeva - 2010-07-11
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acCCjz3Zv0c
I don't think you can go from Lv.34 to 35 in ~2 minutes of training without Steal as a Bandit. There's a reason Warriors go Slash Blast first, I/L mages go Thunderbolt first. Although more than 11 Steal is overkill, getting that should be the first thing a 2nd job Bandit does(as long as they have Big Bang).
[Post-Revamp] What would you do for a Bandit build? - Dusk - 2010-07-11
Tay Wrote:I don't have bandit insight but I do have earlylevel insight, most bandits on kMS will go steal first.
Why?
Levels 35-51, I think, are the kerning square levels? There are these monsters in KS called pepe machines and yeti machines. These things give about 90ish EXP for machine, and 81 EXP per pepe. Leveling to 50 is such a joke with these monsters, and 1v1ing those doesnt sound like much fun.
Also, cPQ is now useless. You get about 7k per A rank win. Monsters still have their same EXP and itd be a nice grind, but you could do without it.
Wow. Those monsters give 5 exp in GMS right now. I could definitely see going 11 Steal first for something like that.