dilbert Wrote:1: Sarcasm; learn it. Both do little more than allowing players to get better equipment.
2: Again, more ignorance. Even if you never stepped once into Neo Tokyo, you could buy the equips from others who had from the FM, and, guess what? The equips are a much lower level than Tokyo itself.
3: You could synth the stars and bullets without a lot of effort, or buy them from those that could. Though, it's the bullets that matter here.
4: Funny, I've heard from several people playing jMS that synthing the swords isn't anywhere near as bad as the Crimson weapons in gMS.
5: Neo City doesn't "help" anybody.



And honestly, you're fucking stupid for arguing this, especially since it means that we'll most likely not get the Ninja Castle, either, and lose Jipang and Showa, as well. We lose out on so much by NoA taking this path that it is ridiculous.

dilbert Wrote:"bawling"? Is that like redneck bowling or something?

iAmFear Wrote:Doesn't help anyone? Or it doesn't help you specifically? You are not everyone else, you cannot argue for everyone else. Maker is way better in the sense that it allows players to get better equips than Neo Tokyo because more people can use it. The only advantages I remember are that the one handed sword is fast(4), and reverse equips can easily surpass the others with a few levels, something that, though the Neo Tokyo weapons appear to do, they don't, last I checked. The only stupidity in this thread is from your own arrogance, everyone that argues against you is not stupid. And where's your logic when you say we won't get Ninja Castle? The existence of Neo City does not affect the existance of Zipangu, Showa, and Ninja Castle, Neo City and the Japan World Tour areas are completely independent of each other, there's no real logic there besides your own assumptions.

BombsAway Wrote:Really? Did you completely miss this event, which says exactly what that link says? The groundhogs day event was pink beans shadow.

Discredited your discredit.

Lumancer Wrote:We've heard no reports suggesting that Neo City has any particularly useful training spots or other benefits for individuals of any level; given Nexon's track record, the opposite is more likely.

I may be missing something from this discussion, but I might point out that the Neo Tokyo equips are Maker-able, although not in the usual sense. The weapons may not be as powerful as reverse or timeless equips, but they confer a number of interesting benefits- namely a chance at inflicting status effects, though there are also other notables, such as the lukless wand and the faster 1h sword.

As for Ninja Castle and other foreign content, it is not unreasonable to assume that Korea will continue working through other world tour areas for theme dungeons; and since we are now getting Kerning Square and Neo City in place of Formosa and Neo Tokyo, it's not unreasonable to suggest that we have a decreased chance of seeing other world tour content in its original form.

 Learn about the subject, eh?

iAmFear Wrote:Doesn't help anyone? Or it doesn't help you specifically? You are not everyone else, you cannot argue for everyone else. Maker is way better in the sense that it allows players to get better equips than Neo Tokyo because more people can use it. The only advantages I remember are that the one handed sword is fast(4), and reverse equips can easily surpass the others with a few levels, something that, though the Neo Tokyo weapons appear to do, they don't, last I checked. The only stupidity in this thread is from your own arrogance, everyone that argues against you is not stupid. And where's your logic when you say we won't get Ninja Castle? The existence of Neo City does not affect the existance of Zipangu, Showa, and Ninja Castle, Neo City and the Japan World Tour areas are completely independent of each other, there's no real logic there besides your own assumptions.

dilbert Wrote:...Actually, personally; I wanted the better equips, bullets and the circlet. Your rebuttal isn't worth a grain of salt on that mark; the 1h sword completely dominates the Timeless version, and there is no substitution for the ammunition or the circlet.

"Enemies and grinding are the only things that I want"? Sorry, slick... while I may want better areas for grinding, that's not the only thing to think about.

As for challenge... pink bean is the only real thing that we have, and even it has an artificial limit imposed upon it. Neo Tokyo would fit that purpose much better, as well.

Please, "use YOUR common sense before answering. I accept any answer, but think it first at least(sic)"

dilbert Wrote:Nexon of America follows NoK 99.9% of the time, and this is only further proof of it. NoK REMOVED WORLD TOUR COMPLETELY, IT'S GONE, KAPUT, BYE BYE! Learn about the subject at hand before you argue about it, you pineappleing tool.

iAmFear Wrote:I must commend you for making an actual argument, and I had completely forgotten about the status effects and the lukless wand. I'm not saying Neo City is a preferable alternative to Neo Tokyo, but that at least we're getting it, and at least someone can use it. Neo City does seem to be one of those places, like a PQ, where you can get together with your friends and relax from the constant grinding you do. While I'm sure a place to grind other than skeles and ToT would be nice, we can wait for it, there's no point in longing for something that we're definitely not getting and there's no point in getting angry over something you can't really control. And though we are getting theme dungeons in place of some world tours, my point is that doesn't mean we'll lose Zip or Singapore, it remains to be seen, hopefully from SEA, how theme dungeons and world tours will coexist, if they can at all.

Lumancer Wrote:We're in agreement about the possible removal of World Tour. It seems unlikely, doubly so since the Christmas poem made a nod at Ulu City. As for Neo City being a break from the grind, I'll have to respectfully disagree. Given how difficult it is to get in (based on Spadow's observations) and the fact that we have yet to see any compelling advantages inside, it strikes me that Neo City will end up just like Omega Sector or KFT; quiet, vacant, and unusued. It's very frustrating to see any amount of development time go into content that, for all intents and purposes, appears to be deadwood.

And that's why I'm angry more than anything else; to see our patience and money being put towards another (ostensibly) purposeless area when most everyone in that level range will simply end up back at Windraiders and Galloperas within the span of a few weeks is mind numbing.

dilbert Wrote:Nexon of America follows NoK 99.9% of the time, and this is only further proof of it. NoK REMOVED WORLD TOUR COMPLETELY, IT'S GONE, KAPUT, BYE BYE! Learn about the subject at hand before you argue about it, you pineappleing tool.

Conciente Wrote:Skelegons and Oblivion 4... you don't need any more high level content to get to 200.

solarboy Wrote:Yeah, but thats like saying that the Mushrom castle is useless because you can get from 30-38 in CPQ

Turtally Wrote:This is the same guy that says NX is completely free.

Turtally Wrote:This is the same guy that says NX is completely free.

Turtally Wrote:This is the same guy that says NX is completely free.

Ssj5will Wrote:This is the guy who can't think for pomegranate.