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How was your day? - League of Legends edition - WillDaSnail - 2013-01-09 Did well with Ezreal since forever (went 18/6/19).... ...in an ARAM ;___; How was your day? - League of Legends edition - MasPan - 2013-01-09 0shikuru Wrote:Support Zyra is kind of fun. Just need my ADC to actually do something when I E+W+R the bad guys... And junglers with a clue would be nice too, no need to farm the jungle for 15+ minutes before doing anything else. Even a few fail ganks keep people on their toes imo. [COLOR="#cc8899"]My thoughts: Depends on the jungler and the rest of the team comp, but for the most part bottom lane is the lowest priority gank for 2 reasons - it's the hardest to safely and successfully gank (due to higher ward coverage and less predictability) and due to the other lanes being much more likely to snowball off of a single kill or a moderate amount of CS advantage. They shouldn't be farming for 15 minutes, but bottom lane shouldn't be dependent on a jungler to get something done. Leona/Taric/Blitz/Alistar/Zyra are more than capable of setting up kills and Soraka/Janna very capable of defending their carry to keep a lane relatively passive. Bottom lane takes a bit longer to actually snowball off of a kill, given how slow ADC are to grow in comparison to mid or top lane casters/bruisers. Mid lane snowballing frees them up to push the lane then gank or push then grab wraiths and top lane snowballing lets them push down the turret then roam. Bottom lane snowballing has the least impact on the early/mid game outside of dragon control. -Edit- That being said, I still make it a point to stop by bottom lane when I can to at least get the ADC to back up a bit and lose some experience and CS. If me being there for all of 10 seconds causes them to play more cautiously for half a minute, I've done my job. If I get them to burn a summoner's spell or two, I've exceeded my goals. Hell, it's almost better to leave them with 20% HP than to actually kill them - they tend to get really cautious, miss a lot of CS, and are still very likely to die. They end up wasting even more time that way than simply dying or recalling.[/COLOR] How was your day? - League of Legends edition - Will - 2013-01-09 Nion Wrote:I'm losing confidence in myself now. I really want to do well with Jayce but I end up losing my lane and getting double my deaths than kills. Where are you finding issues? Jayce is easy to play and win lane with the fact that he can farm extremely well and if you land a Gate'd Q you're going to burst them for a huge chunk of their health, landing an early q or 2 can easily snowball the lane for you because you bully people so well like that. How was your day? - League of Legends edition - Loose - 2013-01-09 MasPan Wrote:My thoughts:As someone specializing in Support and secondary ADC, thanks for making me better understand the point of view of a Jungler. How was your day? - League of Legends edition - MasPan - 2013-01-09 Loose Wrote:As someone specializing in Support and secondary ADC, thanks for making me better understand the point of view of a Jungler. Keep in mind this is strictly my viewpoint/thought process/prioritization as a Jungler. Each player's going to have their own priorities. How was your day? - League of Legends edition - FenixR - 2013-01-09 MasPan Wrote:Keep in mind this is strictly my viewpoint/thought process/prioritization as a Jungler. Each player's going to have their own priorities. You missed the part where you have to apply the triage to a lane to see if its worth it/possible to rescue it, sometimes a lane can get so far behind that ganking will only result in a double to the enemy. Also, every day is a yolo day when i ult with panth
How was your day? - League of Legends edition - Phoenix Wright - 2013-01-09
Second time Sejuani
I do not understand why people don't like her. Sure, her early game sucks... but once you get farmed up a little, she deals a lot of damage over the course of a teamfight. How was your day? - League of Legends edition - MasPan - 2013-01-09 Phoenix Wright Wrote: I think it's probably that - her early game presence just isn't there enough to do what most people expect from a Jungler. It's hard for her to pressure lanes at all without her ult and she takes a fairly long amount of time to clear the jungle in the first place. There are also plenty of other junglers that make great off-tanks with much better early games (Hecarim, Skarner, etc). Sejuani isn't awful, she just needs tweaking to stand next to the more noteworthy Junglers. How was your day? - League of Legends edition - Nion - 2013-01-09 Will Wrote:Where are you finding issues? Maybe I think a problem I saw lately was that I'm can't poke that well. I mean, I've been beaten by my counters just for that and the fear of being attacked by them probably just makes me suck even more. How was your day? - League of Legends edition - Five Second Pose - 2013-01-09 Will Wrote:Where are you finding issues? I find that Jayce is easier to play once you stop trying to stay in one form. I switched forms more often and started doing better. How was your day? - League of Legends edition - FenixR - 2013-01-09 Oh hell, i still remember those pokes of Jayce with his acceleration gate, and he barely had any item on but still hurt like hell, not on the level of nid spears though but quite there, specially since the speed burst and AoE makes it easier to hit. How was your day? - League of Legends edition - HighOnMushrooms - 2013-01-09 ![]() Second pentakill ever~ Was in an ARAM but whatever
How was your day? - League of Legends edition - Will - 2013-01-09 Nion Wrote:Maybe I think a problem I saw lately was that I'm can't poke that well. I mean, I've been beaten by my counters just for that and the fear of being attacked by them probably just makes me suck even more. When you've been counterpicked or are struggling in lane, the best thing you can do is just farm safely in Cannon form and use your q+ e to farm if you need to. I don't think it's necessarily easy to counter jayce though, an early Q is devastating on anybody, especially if you hit lvl2 before them and do a full combo on them, but it is definitely easy to outplay a jayce, whether it be landing free pokes at him or just dodging the Q. In the event they just become unkillable due to raw sustain (like Cho, or even Lee), you just have to be able to out sustain them whether it be with a doran/vampiric scepter or even a wriggles. And obviously ganks help a lot and are ridiculously easy with him, even if you dont land a q because your hammer form is amazing at going onto someone. Also, being able to make your enemy use a potion at level 1 before you even go in on them is really really strong too because youalready cut their sustain a bit, and jayce can do that really easily on melee's because he can just auto them freely. Five Second Pose Wrote:I find that Jayce is easier to play once you stop trying to stay in one form. I switched forms more often and started doing better. I only ever go into Hammer form after I land a Q or if i need mana or something, or if i need to keep pushing a wave. I personally don't see any use to go into Hammer to farm if the other person is already there because Jayce's safe range is what makes him so amazing still., BUT THAT'S JUST ME. How was your day? - League of Legends edition - Five Second Pose - 2013-01-09 Will Wrote:I only ever go into Hammer form after I land a Q or if i need mana or something, or if i need to keep pushing a wave. I personally don't see any use to go into Hammer to farm if the other person is already there because Jayce's safe range is what makes him so amazing still., BUT THAT'S JUST ME. I usually go into hammer form after I make the other guy go back to top up on mana in addition to what you said. How was your day? - League of Legends edition - Dredragon - 2013-01-10 [COLOR="#0000FF"]Yesh, finally the super sale. Now I can get the last Fizz skin that I don't own. Gonna get Dragon Blade Talon, Jade Dragon Wukong, and maybe Tyrant swain too. [/COLOR]
How was your day? - League of Legends edition - Corn - 2013-01-10 Back to sub 1200 elo. Ugh. How was your day? - League of Legends edition - MorbidMagus - 2013-01-11 MasPan Wrote:I think it's probably that - her early game presence just isn't there enough to do what most people expect from a Jungler. It's hard for her to pressure lanes at all without her ult and she takes a fairly long amount of time to clear the jungle in the first place. There are also plenty of other junglers that make great off-tanks with much better early games (Hecarim, Skarner, etc). Sejuani isn't awful, she just needs tweaking to stand next to the more noteworthy Junglers. I disagree. With Q, W, and E and your basic attacks you have enough CC and gap closing to gank just fine. Sometimes I don't even bother with level three and gank right after Blue. It's certainly better than Rammus and Warwick, IMO which are much more common. In normal queue most people aren't prepared for such an early attack, although ranked teams tend to react better. How was your day? - League of Legends edition - Imagine - 2013-01-12 Bought tig bitties. My support toolbelt is almost complete. How was your day? - League of Legends edition - MasPan - 2013-01-12 [COLOR="#cc8899"]That feeling when you realize that players in your normals elo are much better than players in the Ranked placement matches. My placement matches at the end of S2 had some really painful examples of stupidity that frankly I've grown used to not having to worry about. I may need to learn a select few champions for the express purpose of carrying my way up until my Ranked games have about the same skill level of players... *Shudder* And advice on specific champs? Skarner was pretty good at carrying games before S3, but since S3 he just doesn't feel as difficult to kill as in S2. May just be a perception thing or a result of all the cleavers running around. Hecarim can do some serious damage to an enemy team and put in a lot of work on his own, I'll probably learn Riven for top lane and I've got Leona and Blitzcrank for support. I really, really don't want to ADC but I'll probably learn Ezreal or just use Ashe. Mid lane I can do fine as Malzahar and am not worried about as much.[/COLOR] How was your day? - League of Legends edition - Imagine - 2013-01-12 Played sona, easiest time I've had as support. Best toolbox ever. |