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Achievement Thread - Takebacker - 2011-12-07
Concentrate and mw 29 is clean?
Achievement Thread - XTOTHEL - 2011-12-07
Takebacker Wrote:Concentrate and mw 29 is clean?
I think he meant not on
Achievement Thread - SaptaZapta - 2011-12-07
I think we call that "self-buffed".
Achievement Thread - CrazyForDex - 2011-12-07
Panacea Wrote:Rotosound, I advise that you put your foot where your mouth is before you damage your already ill reputation even further.
As far as achievements go, I was able to finish collecting Unstoppable Winds and maxed Irena's Wind Piercing this past 2x weekend. Pics to follow.
Ta-da:
![[Image: JsDaq.png]](http://i.imgur.com/JsDaq.png)
Congrats! I hope to get my lvl 1 wind pierce on the next 2x event.
Achievement Thread - ShinkuDragon - 2011-12-07
do note, the following screenshots show a warrior, i repeat, a warrior, not a mage.
without HB
![[Image: nohb1.png]](http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/l630/Shinkudragon/Maplestory/nohb1.png)
with HB
![[Image: withhb1.png]](http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/l630/Shinkudragon/Maplestory/withhb1.png)
mine ended only with 12k int, not enough to achieve max without decent HB (and even then) but good enough.
this character was made thanks to the sidekick system, now nexon do us a favor and do that free AP reset DB event again, kkthx <3
Achievement Thread - ShinkuDragon - 2011-12-07
do note, the following screenshots show a warrior, i repeat, a warrior, not a mage.
without HB
with HB
mine ended only with 12k int, not enough to achieve max without decent HB (and even then) but good enough.
this character was made thanks to the sidekick system, now nexon do us a favor and do that free AP reset DB event again, kkthx <3
Achievement Thread - Mazz - 2011-12-07
^holy snood. That's a lot of MP! Congrats xD
Achievement Thread - Onion Knight - 2011-12-07
Level 4 Gears. Only 10 Flares away from having this particularly irritating thorn out of my side.
![[Image: sdhavddsvsd.jpg]](http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b153/skhepburn/sdhavddsvsd.jpg)
Achievement Thread - ShinkuDragon - 2011-12-07
Mazz Wrote:^holy snood. That's a lot of MP! Congrats xDleech got stupidly slow by those levels, even with ring+HS bonus, so we stopped there, but indeed, that's a lot of MP, shame my pally isn't anywhere close.
Achievement Thread - Mazz - 2011-12-07
ShinkuDragon Wrote:leech got stupidly slow by those levels, even with ring+HS bonus, so we stopped there, but indeed, that's a lot of MP, shame my pally isn't anywhere close.
Even if yours is at like, what, 12k? That's a ridiculously high amount to have. I'd kill for that on my Dark Knight, Dark Impale drains my MP like nothing.
Last level up before I got banned for 30 days. ;_;
![[Image: 14mvyoh.png]](http://i40.tinypic.com/14mvyoh.png)
Achievement Thread - Marksman Bryan - 2011-12-07
Takebacker Wrote:Concentrate and mw 29 is clean?
When am I not going to have those buffs, though? This is clean to me. I even considered having frostprey up, but decided against it.
Achievement Thread - KhainiWest - 2011-12-07
ShinkuDragon Wrote:do note, the following screenshots show a warrior, i repeat, a warrior, not a mage.
without HB
with HB
mine ended only with 12k int, not enough to achieve max without decent HB (and even then) but good enough.
this character was made thanks to the sidekick system, now nexon do us a favor and do that free AP reset DB event again, kkthx <3
Impressive, too bad I don't play you'd be someone fun to compete with
Achievement Thread - CrazyForDex - 2011-12-07
Marksman Bryan Wrote:When am I not going to have those buffs, though? This is clean to me. I even considered having frostprey up, but decided against it.
Eh I always thought of clean as just your range without buffs (excluding angelic bless as it is also always on). Anything else imo is considered "buffed range"
Achievement Thread - Ryosuke - 2011-12-07
CrazyForDex Wrote:Eh I always thought of clean as just your range without buffs (excluding angelic bless as it is also always on). Anything else imo is considered "buffed range"
Agreed. Never heard of someones "Self Buffed" range, being called, "Clean" lol.
Achievement Thread - Takebacker - 2011-12-07
Marksman Bryan Wrote:When am I not going to have those buffs, though? This is clean to me. I even considered having frostprey up, but decided against it.
I agree completely. Clean being no buffs is a stupid as s'hit distinction, because you'll always have it. It's especially stupid when buccs have 40 attack that can't contribute to range.
Achievement Thread - SaptaZapta - 2011-12-07
Takebacker Wrote:I agree completely. Clean being no buffs is a stupid as s'hit distinction, because you'll always have it. It's especially stupid when buccs have 40 attack that can't contribute to range.
So if some damage whore always uses apples, he's allowed to count them in his "clean" range?
"Clean" means without buffs, by definition. You might say that "clean range" is a meaningless stat because it never comes into play, but that doesn't change its definition.
If what matters to you is the "self buffed" range, post it and call it by its proper name.
Achievement Thread - Ryosuke - 2011-12-07
SaptaZapta Wrote:So if some damage whore always uses apples, he's allowed to count them in his "clean" range?
"Clean" means without buffs, by definition. You might say that "clean range" is a meaningless stat because it never comes into play, but that doesn't change its definition.
If what matters to you is the "self buffed" range, post it and call it by its proper name.
Pretty much sums it up.. It's the fact that "Clean" range has always had a specific meaning. Just because they are your buffs, that you train with.. doesn't mean it's still clean. Would that mean that to you guys, "Buffed" means your damage range, with other classes buffs?
Achievement Thread - Takebacker - 2011-12-07
SaptaZapta Wrote:So if some damage whore always uses apples, he's allowed to count them in his "clean" range?
"Clean" means without buffs, by definition. You might say that "clean range" is a meaningless stat because it never comes into play, but that doesn't change its definition.
If what matters to you is the "self buffed" range, post it and call it by its proper name.
Apple is a potion, not a skill, so no. It isn't something you provide from your "self" either. What made you think this was a good example to argue against my opinion?
Achievement Thread - happylight - 2011-12-07
I can count ADA for my clean range 'cause I never go anywhere without my bam buddy. YEAH!
Achievement Thread - SaptaZapta - 2011-12-07
Takebacker Wrote:Apple is a potion, not a skill, so no. It isn't something you provide from your "self" either. What made you think this was a good example to argue against my opinion?
Because the same "when would I be without it?" argument could be made for the apple.
Also, definitions are not a matter of opinion.
Opinion is whether said range can be considered low/high/godly/noob/wasteful or any other value judgement.
"Clean" is not a matter of opinion.