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Gen I Pokemon Mafia - Mafia Wins - meowmixx - 2014-08-03
hey hey hey jynx isnt as annoying as kricketune. now his cry pierces through your soul.
and i only mentioned swallowing cuz of her DSL which is why i wanted her in the first place....tht or creepy ass MR.MIME
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Gen I Pokemon Mafia - Mafia Wins - MasPan - 2014-08-03
meowmixx Wrote:hey hey hey jynx isnt as annoying as kricketune. now his cry pierces through your soul.[COLOR="#cc8899"]
and i only mentioned swallowing cuz of her DSL which is why i wanted her in the first place....tht or creepy ass MR.MIME
[B][vote] MasPan (change ur vote and ill change mine
Oh look, a countervote. Lol. Round and round and round we go...
[vote][MENTION=1087]Shidoshi[/MENTION]; I'm not sure how I feel about you saying you want more meaningful talk/something other than voting for quiet folks but not putting forth any ideas on what to do about it. Same thought goes to [MENTION=41]Holypie[/MENTION];[/COLOR]
Gen I Pokemon Mafia - Mafia Wins - VerrKol - 2014-08-03
It weirds me out that there is so much innuendo coming from meow this game.
Gen I Pokemon Mafia - Mafia Wins - Shidoshi - 2014-08-03
Sorry for not being so present for this game's Day 1 as for the others, I've been busy. I'll define my vote Monday when I'll have a little more time to reread everything and have some conclusions.
Gen I Pokemon Mafia - Mafia Wins - meowmixx - 2014-08-03
a word of warning for afking tomorrow. on friday the kitchen ceiling leaked so ima be the handy "man" tomorrow and get it fixed during the morning. looking for better upstairs neighbors
Gen I Pokemon Mafia - Mafia Wins - Kyrastri - 2014-08-03
VerrKol Wrote:It weirds me out that there is so much innuendo coming from meow this game.
Because Meow is a strong independent jynx who don't need no self-restraint? D:
[MENTION=12295]meowmixx[/MENTION]; what's DSL ._.
Gen I Pokemon Mafia - Mafia Wins - Words - 2014-08-03
I kinda regret signing up for this, I barely remember the show and I haven't played a pokemon game in forever so I feel like I'm missing a lot from possible "hints" and I don't know how helpful it'd be to claim what pokemon you are... at least for me. But then again, I wouldn't oppose it if there are good arguments for it.
Also, what other options do we have? If not role claiming or pokemon claiming or whatever @MasPan; suggested, a random lynch?
EDIT: Oh I forgot, @LuvDWayULie;: post quality> quantity.
Damn keyboard is made for English settings and I'm used to the ones in Spanish... how do I do the more than and less than symbols? D:
Gen I Pokemon Mafia - Mafia Wins - meowmixx - 2014-08-03
@Kyrastri; cough cough
Gen I Pokemon Mafia - Mafia Wins - Holypie - 2014-08-03
MasPan Wrote:[COLOR="#cc8899"]
Oh look, a countervote. Lol. Round and round and round we go...
[vote]Shidoshi; I'm not sure how I feel about you saying you want more meaningful talk/something other than voting for quiet folks but not putting forth any ideas on what to do about it. Same thought goes to Holypie;[/COLOR]
Yeah I get what you mean, in other games I play day 1 usually ends up being a random lynch so I'm not too sure what to do on early days. Have we already gone through all of the quiet people?
Gen I Pokemon Mafia - Mafia Wins - MasPan - 2014-08-03
Holypie Wrote:Yeah I get what you mean, in other games I play day 1 usually ends up being a random lynch so I'm not too sure what to do on early days. Have we already gone through all of the quiet people?[COLOR="#cc8899"]
Yep. Though we've got a few claiming reasons to be "afk" tomorrow (which may or may not be legit).[/COLOR]
Gen I Pokemon Mafia - Mafia Wins - xBTAx - 2014-08-03
Holypie Wrote:Ah, day 1 empty talking again. Are we ever going to get past voting for silent people on day 1? I'm ambivalent about the massclaim to be honest, on the one hand it gives us some info to work with on day 1 (based on who claims what and when), but it could also lead mafia to targets. It could also be completely unrelated to anything too.
Oh I just realized that fano isn't playing this game. I don't know whether to be sad because fewer players or happy because he's terrifying when he's mafia.
I'm not sure if I'd survive another round of that kind of manipulation. Watching it was fun, though~
Gen I Pokemon Mafia - Mafia Wins - Olsi - 2014-08-03
still wondering why [MENTION=6823]Polantaris[/MENTION]; said something linking team rocket and yoshi. Seems like a really random move
Gen I Pokemon Mafia - Mafia Wins - Polantaris - 2014-08-03
Olsi Wrote:still wondering why Polantaris; said something linking team rocket and yoshi. Seems like a really random move
Because his comment seemed like a pretty plantainish thing to say? And Team Rocket is a bunch of plantains?
Plus it was half a joke because of the dickishness of his post in general.
Gen I Pokemon Mafia - Mafia Wins - Olsi - 2014-08-04
I thought of it as a crumbing thing but maybe im the wrong one idk.
Gen I Pokemon Mafia - Mafia Wins - Polantaris - 2014-08-04
Olsi Wrote:I thought of it as a crumbing thing but maybe im the wrong one idk.
Nope, wasn't really crumbing anything (I'm gawdawful at that). His posts just seem pretty rude.
Gen I Pokemon Mafia - Mafia Wins - Olsi - 2014-08-04
I meant as in yoshi being the one crumbing. It seemed obvious to me but again i could be wrong.
Gen I Pokemon Mafia - Mafia Wins - LuvDWayULie - 2014-08-04
Simple Wrote:Why? I've posted just as much as Hypermug so why am I being targeted? Is not talking a reason to vote someone off? Does it mean they are scum? Why isn't the opposite true? Like someone posting a lot and voting for people at random being scummy? What if you call out the doctor or cop and get them voted off because they don't want to reveal themselves on day 1? That sounds pretty scummy to me.
Chill, Simple. My vote is just to get you talking, which you did.
And TheBirds is right, I am the most vocal bandwagoning player..
Now enough with the targeting of inactive/quiet players, let's get down to business.
I actually gave clues to what Pokemon am I, and I was actually wrong at one part (Try finding that out
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Yoshi crumbing? Wait what? Lemme read that again.
Gen I Pokemon Mafia - Mafia Wins - Kyrastri - 2014-08-04
OK A PROPER RESPONSE huzzah
meowmixx Wrote:@Kyrastri; cough cough
(sorry for the late response, I saw/pinappled it earlier) .... wow ._______.
*edit: Also, why Mr Mime for a second choice? Hoping it's not um... as eccentric as your reason for jynx
Holypie Wrote:Yeah I get what you mean, in other games I play day 1 usually ends up being a random lynch so I'm not too sure what to do on early days. Have we already gone through all of the quiet people?
We've gotten everyone to post at least once (to my knowledge anyway), but I think at this point we should be pushing for more discussion, even if it's not necessarily logical scum hunting or doing that mass roleclaim.
Nobody's really pushed for the mass roleclaim either so I don't think that's going to happen at this point...
LuvDWayULie Wrote:Chill, Simple. My vote is just to get you talking, which you did.I don't know if valiantly throwing defenses can count as really contributing, though ._. The only instances I've seen Simple talk were to vote or defend themselves.
Simple Wrote:Why? I've posted just as much as Hypermug so why am I being targeted?Minor disclaimer: I personally think that you just have nothing to contribute at the moment, but even mindless flavour posting might be better on Day 1. But if I were to justify voting for you, I'd be using the fact that:
1) Your posts so far have been all defenses and only to those who accuse you or votes.
2) You've gotten awfully defensive (throwing your own accusations), which I guess is natural but it's Day 1 and there's only one vote on you. That's not a cause to freak out over.
3) Hypermug's 'contributed', in a way, more than you have so far. They've been posting stuff about flavour, even if they have no real leads.
Simple Wrote:Is not talking a reason to vote someone off? Does it mean they are scum?One vote doesn't necessarily mean that you're being voted off. I know it does feel like that, but keep in mind that there's around 17 other people hanging around, and any lynch that reaches majority today will only be by a very small margin. The only time we would make a majority lynch today is if any of the mafia slip up, and that's pretty unlikely.
edit: thanks TheBirds for pointing this out, but in no way do I mean that we vote off silent people on day 1. Day 1 is no man's land; these generally apply from the second day onwards and even then, there's people who play the inactive role and pull it off for their faction win.
But yes, not talking is very much a valid reason to vote someone off. Under the safe assumption that everyone in Town actually wants to win and wants to help everyone else win, to me it implies that they are either
1) Inactive town (active town has no reason to lay low)
2) Inactive neutral
3) Active unhelpful neutral laying low (active helpful neutral has no reason to lay low)
4) Inactive mafia
5) Active mafia laying low
Lurking town doesn't really do much to help town to win, and the likelihood of a helpful neutral deliberately keeping quiet is low. This increases the likelihood that people keeping quiet are more or less either of little use or are trying to harm the town (by taking away one of the few things town has during the day; discussion, and scumhunting).
Not to say that people aren't allowed to afk ever, but a little forewarning would be appreciated so people know where you are. Even if it's complete bs (which I hope people don't pull because I like to trust people :[ ).
I'm aware that, especially given the recent games, it's very much possible that the mafia are chatting among us and even manipulating us faon-style. But at least they're chatting; they have a higher chance of slipping up than if they were silent (last game is a textbook example, I don't think I have to say more on that), because the silent can't slip up and show a glowing neon sign that they're mafia.
Simple Wrote:Why isn't the opposite true? Like someone posting a lot and voting for people at random being scummy?In a game where posting is your only means of communication, how is posting a lot (as long as it's not garbage) a bad thing? Flooding can be an issue, but the most active poster is still limited to how much they can discuss by the other players.
I agree with your second point, but only in the right context. On Day 1, fluffy (random) voting is to be expected. We're trying to pull everyone into the game and trying to make the best out of what is normally a slow start. Bandwagoning votes should be watched of course, since people who follow and place the second and above votes will need an increasingly strong argument as a basis for why they're voting for that person. And that's the same with every other day to follow, though by the second day we have actions to throw votes around for.
Simple Wrote:What if you call out the doctor or cop and get them voted off because they don't want to reveal themselves on day 1? That sounds pretty scummy to me.
If you've read any of the recent games, the power roles will be posting. They know that keeping silent isn't the best choice, and honestly, they have no business trying to make themselves a target for town at all.
Gen I Pokemon Mafia - Mafia Wins - Polantaris - 2014-08-04
Simple Wrote:What if you call out the doctor or cop and get them voted off because they don't want to reveal themselves on day 1? That sounds pretty scummy to me.
I'm a perfect example of being able to stay active while not revealing a thing about what you are capable of. Last game I revealed almost nothing until after I had done my job to the best of my ability. Being inactive just looks scummy. That's just how it goes. If you are town you have no reason to be inactive, and leading on that you have secrets that you're not sharing is just as bad. Luv is a good example of that last game as well. People suspected him because he acted shady (He basically started off saying, "I have this cool power, but @%#! you people, I'm not saying anything about it," which is just incredibly shady). You don't have to act shady to be active.
We have to get people to talk because otherwise you will have to reveal if you have something on someone. What's the point of the cop revealing after a single mafia bust? Pretty much nothing, since that will get the cop killed, and reduce the chances of getting future mafia members. But, if you're the cop, and you know someone is mafia, you can scrutinize what they say more, and be able to pick it apart, without revealing who you are. You can't do that if they're not saying anything. That's why it's very important that we get people talking, and if you refuse to talk then the assumption will be that you're too scared of that happening to participate and therefore are mafia.
Gen I Pokemon Mafia - Mafia Wins - LuvDWayULie - 2014-08-04
Polantaris Wrote:I'm a perfect example of being able to stay active while not revealing a thing about what you are capable of. Last game I revealed almost nothing until after I had done my job to the best of my ability. Being inactive just looks scummy. That's just how it goes. If you are town you have no reason to be inactive, and leading on that you have secrets that you're not sharing is just as bad. Luv is a good example of that last game as well. People suspected him because he acted shady (He basically started off saying, "I have this cool power, but @%#! you people, I'm not saying anything about it," which is just incredibly shady). You don't have to act shady to be active.Correct! 10 points to Polantaris!
We have to get people to talk because otherwise you will have to reveal if you have something on someone. What's the point of the cop revealing after a single mafia bust? Pretty much nothing, since that will get the cop killed, and reduce the chances of getting future mafia members. But, if you're the cop, and you know someone is mafia, you can scrutinize what they say more, and be able to pick it apart, without revealing who you are. You can't do that if they're not saying anything. That's why it's very important that we get people talking, and if you refuse to talk then the assumption will be that you're too scared of that happening to participate and therefore are mafia.
Oops, got too indulged in Harry Potter. It means that you just spoke what I wanted to say in the first place. I can't add furthermore as you have explained everything clearly.