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This is why, people, this is why. - Dice Dragon - 2014-02-05

Ryukiroku Wrote:There's a time and place for everything. If you're going to a forum based on a MMO that children play for that kind of content, I'd simply just say that "You're doing it wrong".

I'd say it's good to have a Mickey Mouse type ad provider for sites like these to keep 'em clean(mostly) for underagers.

Of course there is, but when you have a character like
[Image: Artwork_Hilla.png]

Who is in a "State of undress" and is most likely unacceptable by google standards, you know there is a problem. Its not about being able to look at such content, its about not being scared of every picture, fearing the wrath of the bible gods google. This comes down to an issue with googles "Veiws" and discretion.

I think while google seems to be the easiest to work with, I dont think the admin should fear moving to another provider either. Cause screw google.

Also, remove that if you think google will get mad, even though its just a maple story character on a maplestory forum.

This is why, people, this is why. - DeanNim - 2014-02-05

Wait, so can someone explain to me why adsense is allowed on websites like http://asianfanfics.com ??? that site is basically filled with things that are even worse than whats on here imo.

This is why, people, this is why. - Satellite - 2014-02-05

Quote:Negative content
Publishers are not permitted to place Google ads on sites with content advocating against any individual, group, or organization. More information about this policy can be found in our help center.

Not sure if I'm understanding this correctly... Isn't Google (quite opposite of what they try to speak for) basically against freedom of speech here? Looks like a slippery slope towards working together with dictatorships, tyrannical governments and NSA (and other big brother agencies) to crush the dissidents...

o hold on... they are already doing that

This is why, people, this is why. - Ryukiroku - 2014-02-05

Satellite Wrote:Not sure if I'm understanding this correctly... Isn't Google (quite opposite of what they try to speak for) basically against freedom of speech here? Looks like a slippery slope towards working together with dictatorships, tyrannical governments and NSA (and other big brother agencies) to crush the dissidents...

o hold on... they are already doing that

Full Policy on that:

Quote:Content that advocates against an individual, group, or organization

What's the policy?

Google believes strongly in the freedom of expression, but also recognizes the need to protect the quality of the AdSense network for users, advertisers, and publishers.

Google ads aren't permitted on sites that contain harassing or bullying content, or on content that incites hatred or promotes violence against individuals or groups based on race or ethnic origin, religion, disability, gender, age, veteran status, or sexual orientation/gender identity. Additionally, Google ads may not appear on content that incites or advocates for harm against an individual or group.

However, websites containing educational, documentary, historical, scientific, or artistic content related to such subjects are permitted to participate in AdSense.

This is why, people, this is why. - xparasite9 - 2014-02-05

Dice Dragon Wrote:Of course there is, but when you have a character like
-snip- (hilla picture)

Who is in a "State of undress" and is most likely unacceptable by google standards, you know there is a problem. Its not about being able to look at such content, its about not being scared of every picture, fearing the wrath of the bible gods google. This comes down to an issue with googles "Veiws" and discretion.

I think while google seems to be the easiest to work with, I dont think the admin should fear moving to another provider either. Cause screw google.

Also, remove that if you think google will get mad, even though its just a maple story character on a maplestory forum.

whoa there. that's 2lewd4goog

Satellite Wrote:Not sure if I'm understanding this correctly... Isn't Google (quite opposite of what they try to speak for) basically against freedom of speech here? Looks like a slippery slope towards working together with dictatorships, tyrannical governments and NSA (and other big brother agencies) to crush the dissidents...

The whole deal about freedom of speech is not what you say, but how you say it. Saying that someone is a horrible person and has committed crimes against humanity is fine, but you can't say that because of that the person deserves to be severely beaten, raped, killed, etc.

but then

Quote:However, websites containing [...] artistic content related to such subjects are permitted to participate in AdSense.

So make sure to be artistic about your death threats, everyone!

This is why, people, this is why. - ShinkuDragon - 2014-02-05

Ryukiroku Wrote:Full Policy on that:

let's just tag all the naked ladies as artistic content then! Rolleyes

This is why, people, this is why. - xparasite9 - 2014-02-05

ShinkuDragon Wrote:let's just tag all the naked ladies as artistic content then!

no such "artistic" provision appears on the adult content subsection

This is why, people, this is why. - ShinkuDragon - 2014-02-05

EDIT: posted this in the wrong thread, dafu.

This is why, people, this is why. - Dice Dragon - 2014-02-05

I dont even wanna see naked ladies or men. But google is a massive punk, and will prevent you from even Talking about said things, or things even remotely similar to them.

Either way, im almost certain someone is targeting southperry, cause I NEVER seen anyone get this bagged by google before rofl.

This is why, people, this is why. - Eos - 2014-02-05

DeanNim Wrote:Wait, so can someone explain to me why adsense is allowed on websites like http://asianfanfics.com ??? that site is basically filled with things that are even worse than whats on here imo.

I am betting if you reported them, or basilmarket, or mabination or most forum sites, frankly, they'd all fail.

Satellite Wrote:Not sure if I'm understanding this correctly... Isn't Google (quite opposite of what they try to speak for) basically against freedom of speech here? Looks like a slippery slope towards working together with dictatorships, tyrannical governments and NSA (and other big brother agencies) to crush the dissidents...

o hold on... they are already doing that

Their help topic on the subject addresses that.

This is why, people, this is why. - Niernen - 2014-02-05

DeanNim Wrote:Wait, so can someone explain to me why adsense is allowed on websites like http://asianfanfics.com ??? that site is basically filled with things that are even worse than whats on here imo.

Probably because what ever method/bots google uses does not recognize anything against the policy, and no one from google has actually visited the site much?

This is why, people, this is why. - xparasite9 - 2014-02-05

Niernen Wrote:Probably because what ever method/bots google uses does not recognize anything against the policy, and no one from google has actually visited the site much?

yeah I did a quick look-see and there's some stories with a [members-only] tag. I'm guessing that's the racier ones.

This is why, people, this is why. - DeanNim - 2014-02-05

xparasite9 Wrote:yeah I did a quick look-see and there's some stories with a [members-only] tag. I'm guessing that's the racier ones.

the member-only thing is dependent on the author of the fanfiction itself. i, myself am subscribed to a bunch of 18+ smut fics that are open to the public.

((dont report asianfanfics tho, i live and breathe that website i need it to stay alive))

This is why, people, this is why. - Niernen - 2014-02-05

DeanNim Wrote:X

Remove the link please, don't want google to go after us again Rolleyes

This is why, people, this is why. - DeanNim - 2014-02-05

Niernen Wrote:Remove the link please, don't want google to go after us again

which is kind of ironic because that site uses adsense too Tongue

This is why, people, this is why. - Ryukiroku - 2014-02-05

I'm just confused in general with these guidelines when I apply them to YouTube. I find it hard that people like PewDiePie can get away with as much as he does and still gets paid under Google AdSense's guidelines.

This is why, people, this is why. - Flonne - 2014-02-05

Quote:Negative content
Publishers are not permitted to place Google ads on sites with content advocating against any individual, group, or organization. More information about this policy can be found in our help center.

I can't think of any words to express how disappointed I am in Google, so I guess just quoting it will have to be enough.

This is why, people, this is why. - xparasite9 - 2014-02-05

Ryukiroku Wrote:I'm just confused in general with these guidelines when I apply them to YouTube. I find it hard that people like PewDiePie can get away with as much as he does and still gets paid under Google AdSense's guidelines.

If you were google, would you be willing to risk having SEVEN-POINT-SEVEN MILLION VIEWS PER DAY PewDiePie becoming disgruntled and relocating all his operations to a competing website? Would you be able to deal with the backlash by the "bro army"?

This is why, people, this is why. - Zelkova - 2014-02-05

Ryukiroku Wrote:I'm just confused in general with these guidelines when I apply them to YouTube. I find it hard that people like PewDiePie can get away with as much as he does and still gets paid under Google AdSense's guidelines.

He works under Polaris, not directly under Google. If pomegranate happens, Polaris takes care of him. That's what it's like to be a managed partner.

This is why, people, this is why. - Ryukiroku - 2014-02-05

xparasite9 Wrote:If you were google, would you be willing to risk having SEVEN-POINT-SEVEN MILLION VIEWS PER DAY PewDiePie becoming disgruntled and relocating all his operations to a competing website? Would you be able to deal with the backlash by the "bro army"?

Kind of my first thought, he does bring in decent revenue on his content.

Zelkova Wrote:He works under Polaris, not directly under Google. If pomegranate happens, Polaris takes care of him. That's what it's like to be a managed partner.

Had no idea he was with Polaris as well... that's a huge network or maybe I forgot after they rebranded from TGS. Whatever the case, those are some pretty nice perks to have. Even with the whole copyright fiasco that YouTube was having recently. Polaris seemed pretty well on top of it considering the number of partners they had. Machinima however, not so much.

I guess all in all, the double-standards kind of bug me considering this site is on the lighter end of questionable content but that's how the world goes around sometimes. Best to continue to try stripping paint.