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WOW! Hayato's Hyper ?! - Razmos - 2013-07-28 Takebacker Wrote:Like i said, how can you complain? 30% status resist is god tier party support...that+resistance potion means the vast majority of classes would have 100% resist.I'm curious, i've heard about 3rd stage binds before. What are these stages? whats the difference between the different binding skills? WOW! Hayato's Hyper ?! - Takebacker - 2013-07-28 Razmos Wrote:I'm curious, i've heard about 3rd stage binds before. What are these stages? whats the difference between the different binding skills? 1st stage: DS bind, DA bind, maybe a third one i'm not remembering 2nd stage: pally bind, lumi bind 3rd stage: kanna bind Each stage stacks with the other, so if you had one person from each stage you can bind for a continuous 60 seconds. WOW! Hayato's Hyper ?! - Tigeon - 2013-07-28 Kanna: The Support Class that actually does what it's suppose to do [looking at you bishops] Although someone has to explain to me how does one train a kanna at a higher level =x No one wants to party me anymore, just wants to buy service without partying me F4 I gotta train too you know =x High level kannas don't magically appear! WOW! Hayato's Hyper ?! - Razmos - 2013-07-28 Takebacker Wrote:1st stage: DS bind, DA bind, maybe a third one i'm not rememberingAh I see, that makes sense, thanks for the explanation ![]() Tigeon Wrote:Kanna: The Support Class that actually does what it's suppose to do [looking at you bishops]As a high level Kanna I can attest to the effectiveness of Evolving World. Kanna's have a massive advantage because of Kishin Shoukan, it makes link 3 even more ridiculous. It's the way I got to level 200
WOW! Hayato's Hyper ?! - warustar - 2013-07-28 Tigeon Wrote:Kanna: The Support Class that actually does what it's suppose to do [looking at you bishops] Does what it's supposed to do?! B-but what if I don't want to... ;A; Just kidding, I don't really play Kanna. But not everyone plays it for the same reason that others finds her useful. Also, Kanna's skill DOES remind me of Attack On Titan/SNK, but it's really sick. Actually I love all of their Hyper Skills. Me and Hayato have officially taken the next level in our relationship. <3 n_n WOW! Hayato's Hyper ?! - PirateIzzy - 2013-07-28 Takebacker Wrote:1st stage: DS bind, DA bind, maybe a third one i'm not remembering Xenon's Hyper Skill Entangling Lash says in the description "Resistance is shared with the Smite Shield (Paladin bind)". Not sure exactly what they mean by it though. WOW! Hayato's Hyper ?! - Takebacker - 2013-07-28 PirateIzzy Wrote:Xenon's Hyper Skill Entangling Lash says in the description "Resistance is shared with the Smite Shield (Paladin bind)". Not sure exactly what they mean by it though. Oh yeah, xenon bind is stage 2 i believe. There's also I/L bind as well as zero bind but i obviously can't know which stage these are. WOW! Hayato's Hyper ?! - Onion Knight - 2013-07-28 Razmos Wrote:As a high level Kanna I can attest to the effectiveness of Evolving World. Kanna's have a massive advantage because of Kishin Shoukan, it makes link 3 even more ridiculous. It's the way I got to level 200Unless anything has changed, this also appears to be the only decent place Kanna can train properly without d/cing. WOW! Hayato's Hyper ?! - Arrol - 2013-07-28 Nevermind that. Anything else on Zen hypers? Also, Her Hyper is just a reskinned Armageddon, so it should share the same spot as the original. WOW! Hayato's Hyper ?! - DeanNim - 2013-07-28 ZEN will probably still be the pomegranatetiest class ever. The last time i played it, it felt like beta all over again. skills felt odd, sound effects didnt play and the storyline was really rushed.... dont even get me started on the translations, unless you understand mandarin sentence structures, you probably wont understand anything in the storyline... lol asiasoft. Really not surprised that their hyper is just a reskin. WOW! Hayato's Hyper ?! - Tigeon - 2013-07-28 My journey to 170 on my kanna shall begin! ...Do I party in evo or do I just grind solo> And if party how many attackers.... Solo training a poorly funded kanna looks painful =3 WOW! Hayato's Hyper ?! - SwordStaker - 2013-07-28 Razmos Wrote:Looking back over it (and being corrected by a guy on basil), the vanquishers charm buff is not nearly as bad as I was expecting, the extra 2 hit count makes it more powerful than Shikigami Haunting, and with the extra 2 mob count, it hits the same amount of enemies too.I wish instead of vanquishes charm it was shikigami honestly. Or we had a "finisher" like battle king bar or Arans combo thingy. The reason I left my kanna was no hypers and broken skills. I could hit quiet a bit on Empress as well. I believe this will increase our bossing by alottttt. The only thing I need is my two boss nebs from my lumi. Talk about a class I got to 200 I hateeeeee. Two boss nebs going to waste. L>neb diffuser that allows to remove the neb without destroying it. I think we'll get this with Bamons league. I wanna see Jett's reskins. People can say what they want but IMHO Jett is VERY visually pleasing and I think the hypers will be too. Now lets just see what JMS does. WOW! Hayato's Hyper ?! - Dodoch - 2013-07-28 Takebacker Wrote:Like i said, how can you complain? 30% status resist is god tier party support...that+resistance potion means the vast majority of classes would have 100% resist. right now since both blossom barrier and bellflower barrier are broken, using blossom barrier for resistance with a resist potion will just cancel eachother, resulting in -30% resistance Dark Zero Wrote:At least they recieves something meanwhile... *points to JETT, Blaze Wizard and Night Walker*is it just me or does that demon remind me of beautiful joe? WOW! Hayato's Hyper ?! - Takebacker - 2013-07-28 Dodoch Wrote:right now since both blossom barrier and bellflower barrier are broken, using blossom barrier for resistance with a resist potion will just cancel eachother, resulting in -30% resistance Uh no it's a no difference result because if it's cancelled you're left with your base. I didn't know that they don't stack though. Also we're all assuming the worst bugs will be fixed now that they're getting attention again. WOW! Hayato's Hyper ?! - Dodoch - 2013-07-28 Takebacker Wrote:Like i said, how can you complain? 30% status resist is god tier party support...that+resistance potion means the vast majority of classes would have 100% resist. Takebacker Wrote:Uh no it's a no difference result because if it's cancelled you're left with your base. I didn't know that they don't stack though.yea thats what i ment, they dont stack so they cancel eachother even though they both still show on your buffs. WOW! Hayato's Hyper ?! - SwordStaker - 2013-07-28 Dodoch Wrote:yea thats what i ment, they dont stack so they cancel eachother even though they both still show on your buffs.Since when? WOW! Hayato's Hyper ?! - Dodoch - 2013-07-28 SwordStaker Wrote:Since when? since I tried to evo emp with 3 kaisers with a resist potion and lvl 50+ will power and the barrier made them get tornado'd. WOW! Hayato's Hyper ?! - i123theDemon - 2013-07-29 kanna gonna have 3 AOE! WOW! Hayato's Hyper ?! - JoeTang - 2013-07-29 They're pretty lucky to get Hypers for all 4th job skills. It could have been much worse. ハヤトの意思 is lame since it's a copy of Hero's Valhalla, but it's still a good effect. 神速無双 gets a much needed buff to try to compete with 三連斬; however, it's still terrible. Reinforce, Bonus Attack, and Boss Killer makes it better than 三連斬 at 0% Boss, but they're equal once you get back to 100% Boss, and then 三連斬 wins again. Not to mention it hits more things. 鷹爪閃 couldn't hurt to receive a buff. Given that it already hits 6 times, bringing that to 7 isn't as significant as many other characters who get some Bonus Attack on their mob skill. It would be significantly better if 鷹爪閃 actually chained into 一閃. Every attack gets Bonus Attack, the strongest hyper skill, but since all of Hayato's attacks hit so many times to begin with, the effect is pretty bad. 一閃 going from 8 to 9 hits, lol. The +100% Cooldown Reduction is ridiculous though. Combined with ハヤトの剣, which appears to be an FSAOE, hits for 4000% and has an 8 second cooldown, might as well just start selling leech again. The Cooltime Reduce seems a bit early though at 177. It's the latest for 一閃 hypers but overall, as an effective boost, it should definitely be weighed heavier than 鷹爪閃 or 神速無双's Reinforce. 破邪蓮華符 going from 3 hits to 5 really tops off the damage, making it significantly better than 紫扇仰波. Not sure why it gets +2 hits (overkill much?) and an Extra Target hyper though, as being a dedicated 1v1 with 紫扇仰波 for 2~3, and whatever else for 4+ would be interesting. Could be a misprint like Hayato's for a Boss Killer. The fact that the +2 hits comes at 143 but the +2 targets is at 162 gives it room to work this though. Kind of feels a bit early for such a damage boost though. 狛狛桜's hypers are weird and rather unnecessary. If it were a spammable skill, maybe they would be acceptable, but the 20s CD makes these really unattractive. Would have been better if this got the similar Cooltime Reduce and Bonus Attack. Even the Cooltime Reduce 100% would be a great replacement for 双天狗. Why does 結界・桔梗 need a Persist hyper when you get a 100% Cooltime Reduce earlier? That's just pineappleed up. WOW! Hayato's Hyper ?! - Razmos - 2013-07-29 SwordStaker Wrote:I wish instead of vanquishes charm it was shikigami honestly. Or we had a "finisher" like battle king bar or Arans combo thingy. The reason I left my kanna was no hypers and broken skills. I could hit quiet a bit on Empress as well. I believe this will increase our bossing by alottttt. The only thing I need is my two boss nebs from my lumi. Talk about a class I got to 200 I hateeeeee. Two boss nebs going to waste. L>neb diffuser that allows to remove the neb without destroying it. I think we'll get this with Bamons league. I wanna see Jett's reskins. People can say what they want but IMHO Jett is VERY visually pleasing and I think the hypers will be too. Now lets just see what JMS does.Just want to point out that you don't get the stats from nebulites on Haku's fan. So kanna can only have one weapon nebulite. also:
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