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Moderation Enforced - Vanderlust - 2012-08-12
Eos Wrote:http://www.southperry.net/showthread.php?t=58954&p=1014653&viewfull=1#post1014653
I'm aware. However, the point of that post was that in most cases that would make it even more tedious to create an account just to get it instantly banned (and as seen earlier in the thread, it already took care of 1/2 of the given examples). You can't completely stop someone from coming to a forum to troll, yes, but again, filtering a few threads doesn't really solve that problem any better.
Moderation Enforced - KhainiWest - 2012-08-12
ShinkuDragon Wrote:and as i've said before, i'm with locked, this is IMO, too much, yea, he used a hacking device, but geez. not even basil kicks you off so hard. (that said, i understand, he hacked, he's out, it just annoys me because he actually posts useful stuff before getting banned yet again)
Basil threatened to call the authorities and my ISP to complain about me visiting the website
Rick Wrote:To be honest, as a moderator I would rather have dealt with ok'ing a couple of posts before they hit the thread than dealing with hundreds of reports from Locked about how *user* is *class* and censored their name so they are obviously *known hacker/duper*. It's shifting the work on moderators to prevention rather than damage control.
I feel like this needs to be restated because it's exactly what's happening. I feel like [MENTION=1102]Kalovale[/MENTION]; is overthinking this extremely. The entire idea of this is to prevent essentially flamebait.
Mazz Wrote:@Eos; Most of the 'achievements' are based on screenshots, so why not only limit the posts that contain images to moderation? Then discussions can continue freely and that won't be an issue any more.
I don't think this is necessary to be honest but it isn't the worst thing in the world. The moderators are active enough that this isn't a huge deal, it's just frustrating that the bad choices of a few members (well, actually, one? Just Sushi from my understanding) are affecting everyone, but we'll survive.
This is a good "middle ground", but [MENTION=2054]Eos[/MENTION]; could you elaborate what hole would be left if I was put on a "ignore" list. I apologize if this comes across as "do more work for me" I'm not sure what hoops you'd have to go through in order to do that. I could understand someone posting for someone, but that could be easily weeded out, and even take the priveledge of unmoderated posts away.
Vanderlust Wrote:I'm aware. However, the point of that post was that in most cases that would make it even more tedious to create an account just to get it instantly banned (and as seen earlier in the thread, it already took care of 1/2 of the given examples). You can't completely stop someone from coming to a forum to troll, yes, but again, filtering a few threads doesn't really solve that problem any better.
Yes it does when said people post specifically in those threads and their entire motivation to create a new account is those threads.
Moderation Enforced - ResistGreen - 2012-08-12
I don't understand why people are making a big deal over this. It took me about 10-20 minutes to get my post approved in said thread. Now I understand this was during a busy time of the day, but still, it doesn't matter to you if you don't see your own post right away. Only con I see is that it may slow discussion down a tad.
Some people are arguing that it forces moderators to do more work, but the way I see it, they have to do less work. Example, Person A says something, Person B doesn't like it, so they get mad and start arguing, a few hours later, there are pages of them fighting back and forth, cussing each other out. A moderator sees, and he/she would have to take care of both the offenders.
But, if this system was in place, a moderator would just have to deny the first post that would have started this entire mess, with one click of a button.
Moderation Enforced - Vanderlust - 2012-08-12
KhainiWest Wrote:Yes it does when said people post specifically in those threads and their entire motivation to create a new account
I really do not recall anyone like this.
http://www.southperry.net/member.php?u=10210
http://www.southperry.net/member.php?u=9713
I CBA to look for more or count up exactly how many posts are in those threads, but taking a cursory look, he's contributing/discussing way more than just showing off. He's also only one of two examples that are chronic problems.
Showing off at the current moment is not a problem by itself. The given issue of users ignoring authority IS a problem. The solution is too large for the former, does not solve the latter.
Moderation Enforced - Afeared - 2012-08-12
Why do people give so much sympathy for people who want to brag?
Moderation Enforced - Corn - 2012-08-12
I'm bemused we're actually caring about our moderators.
Seriously the rest of us don't have to do anything. Let the moderators suffer the pain of the extra work.
Mua ha ha ha ha ha ha.
Moderation Enforced - Chew - 2012-08-12
So...
I see lots of complains but with no base whatsover.
People say that mods will get extra work or whatever but actually we don't even know how is the process of this, we don't know if it's a pop-up, notification or a re-direction to that thread how could we know how tedious that work could be?
About waiting for a mod to approve a post, well I reaaaaaallly don't see how's this a problem each time I come here there's at least 2 mods, 1 in the worst case.
So.. yeah, that's all.
Moderation Enforced - ShinkuDragon - 2012-08-12
KhainiWest Wrote:Basil threatened to call the authorities and my ISP to complain about me visiting the website
you're different, you only leave butthurt behind you as soon as you touch basil, and often, it's the only reason you touch it for
Moderation Enforced - FoolsLove - 2012-08-12
Chew Wrote:People say that mods will get extra work or whatever but actually we don't even know how is the process of this, we don't know if it's a pop-up, notification or a re-direction to that thread how could we know how tedious that work could be?
I don't know how it's setup here, but on the previous sites I moderated, there was a gadget on the home page that showed every post, thread, visitor message, etc that needed moderation approval. You can also easily get to everything that needs moderator approval through the mod control panel.
Moderation Enforced - Razmos - 2012-08-12
Posted in one of the moderated threads, got my post accepted, so did 2 other people, we had a normal discussion.
I seriously have no problem with this. The mods are good at what they do. People are being butthurt for absolutely stupid reasons in this thread. If this prevents problems in the future then it's a good feature as far as i'm concerned.
Moderation Enforced - Locked - 2012-08-12
Sometimes I don't get you people.
Moderation Enforced - KhainiWest - 2012-08-12
Vanderlust Wrote:I really do not recall anyone like this.
http://www.southperry.net/search.php?searchid=3256521
http://www.southperry.net/search.php?searchid=3256527
I CBA to look for more or count up exactly how many posts are in those threads, but taking a cursory look, he's contributing/discussing way more than just showing off. He's also only one of two examples that are chronic problems.
Showing off at the current moment is not a problem by itself. The given issue of users ignoring authority IS a problem. The solution is too large for the former, does not solve the latter.
The reason they ignore authority is because they want to show off to the public. They can't do it anywhere with success other than southperry. The entire motivation is them trying to show off, thus we have to moderate threads that have that purpose. I don't understand why you aren't making the connection.
They both either come in to ask an asinine question such as "Infinity funding" or "how do I get the most damage". I don't know if you follow the users but I've delt with one of them and gotten him deleted 3-4 times thus far. Blades4hire and ryalty are not just hacker advocates but they constantly try to brag about their knowledge concerning it. Notice I said advocates, I'm not saying if they do or not hack. They were/have been very consistent with this when it comes to basil and southperry. They aren't smart nor humble enough to just confide to the rules. Blades4hire wasn't that bad but he seemed arrogant concerning anything exploitable. Hell both of them outright posted hack's, they get banned on southperry, go play on basil, get banned on there/bored then they try to come back here.
Moderation Enforced - Link - 2012-08-12
Locked Wrote:Sometimes I don't get you people.
Sometimes, I don't get you people.
You and Keith have been pissy over the Southperry moderation lately when really... they're just doing their job. For instance, Keith posted a reply in my thread, contributing nothing, and got an infraction for it. Then, he complains to me on Skype about it and how sick of Southperry he is. Now, isn't that just dumb?
People just have too many issues with conforming to the rules and I don't see why. Some might suck, but if you have to abide by them, don't get pissy when you break them.
Moderation Enforced - Zelkova - 2012-08-12
Link Wrote:For instance, Keith posted a reply in my thread, contributing nothing
Contributing nothing? I answered your question. I gave exorbitant information, sure, but I answered it none the less.
Q: Do you have a level 120 beginner?
A: Close!
*images from rankings*
That got me a spam infraction. Why? I don't pineappleing know. I've seen stupider pomegranate posted elsewhere without getting an infraction.
On Topic I suppose: I don't really care what you guys do with those subforums. If you want to waste manpower on approving posts in threads in threads that are obviously trafficked more often than most on this website, be my guest.
If offered a moderation position (the one I missed my opportunity on I suppose) I don't think I would take it any longer. This site is just becoming more and more ridiculous. Do what you want I guess, its your cash cow Eos.
Moderation Enforced - Locked - 2012-08-12
Link Wrote:Sometimes, I don't get you people.
You and Keith have been pissy over the Southperry moderation lately when really... they're just doing their job. For instance, Keith posted a reply in my thread, contributing nothing, and got an infraction for it. Then, he complains to me on Skype about it and how sick of Southperry he is. Now, isn't that just dumb?
People just have too many issues with conforming to the rules and I don't see why. Some might suck, but if you have to abide by them, don't get pissy when you break them.
Honestly buddy I don't even feel like repeating my point again so you could just read them again if you damn well please.
Moderation Enforced - Eos - 2012-08-12
Zelkova Wrote:Contributing nothing? I answered your question.
So if someone posts a question asking if someone has something and every single user who does not have what they're looking for replies back with "no" that doesn't seem like unnecessary spam to you because they answered the question?
Moderation Enforced - Link - 2012-08-12
Zelkova Wrote:Contributing nothing? I answered your question. I gave exorbitant information, sure, but I answered it none the less.
Q: Do you have a level 120 beginner?
A: Close!
*images from rankings*
That got me a spam infraction. Why? I don't pineappleing know. I've seen stupider pomegranate posted elsewhere without getting an infraction.
You replied to the thread title, not the content of the thread. They're two different things. :f6: That does equal spam.
But I do agree with you that there were things posted in other places that were even more spam infraction/warning worthy, even in the same thread.
Moderation Enforced - Zelkova - 2012-08-12
Eos Wrote:So if someone posts a question asking if someone has something and every single user who does not have what they're looking for replies back with "no" that doesn't seem like unnecessary spam to you because they answered the question?
Well, does every response have to be in the affirmative for it to be deemed not spam then? Maybe I was just proud of my level 100 beginner? It was under maple discussion after all.
Moderation Enforced - Bomber - 2012-08-12
ResistGreen Wrote:I don't understand why people are making a big deal over this. It took me about 10-20 minutes to get my post approved in said thread. Now I understand this was during a busy time of the day, but still, it doesn't matter to you if you don't see your own post right away. Only con I see is that it may slow discussion down a tad.
Some people are arguing that it forces moderators to do more work, but the way I see it, they have to do less work. Example, Person A says something, Person B doesn't like it, so they get mad and start arguing, a few hours later, there are pages of them fighting back and forth, cussing each other out. A moderator sees, and he/she would have to take care of both the offenders.
But, if this system was in place, a moderator would just have to deny the first post that would have started this entire mess, with one click of a button.
Except now they have to do work for the people who aren't making a mess.
Moderation Enforced - Locked - 2012-08-12
Link Wrote:You replied to the thread title, not the content of the thread. They're two different things. :f6: That does equal spam.
What the hell?
Make better titles then, for God's sake.