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CWKPQ! - Mazz - 2012-02-03
Phoenix Wrote:Went today, pretty sure it counted Demon Slayers towards the Pirate requirement.
I think DS counts as warrior and pirate, or the registry thing is broken in some way. We had 2 of everything and it said we had 3 Pirates for some reason. One of the warriors was a DS, both archers were Mercedes.
CWKPQ! - Phoenix - 2012-02-03
Mazz Wrote:I think DS counts as warrior and pirate, or the registry thing is broken in some way. We had 2 of everything and it said we had 3 Pirates for some reason. One of the warriors was a DS, both archers were Mercedes.
That sounds about right. Since the warrior count was accurate including DS's as well.
CWKPQ! - MrTouchnGo - 2012-02-03
Mazz Wrote:I think DS counts as warrior and pirate, or the registry thing is broken in some way. We had 2 of everything and it said we had 3 Pirates for some reason. One of the warriors was a DS, both archers were Mercedes.
My alliance member went in with a Bucc, Cannoneer, and DS the first round. On the second run, the DS left, so they only had two Pirates, but they still got in :f6:
CWKPQ! - Phoenix - 2012-02-03
MrTouchnGo Wrote:My alliance member went in with a Bucc, Cannoneer, and DS the first round. On the second run, the DS left, so they only had two Pirates, but they still got in :f6:
Two is the requirement though.
CWKPQ! - yo72 - 2012-02-04
It seems like they nerfed bonus only got one chair in 2 runs when getting 2+ in a run was common
and the drops from the box are so few its stupid, they may have killed their best pq....
CWKPQ! - CrazyForDex - 2012-02-04
yo72 Wrote:It seems like they nerfed bonus only got one chair in 2 runs when getting 2+ in a run was common
and the drops from the box are so few its stupid, they may have killed their best pq....
...Someone on my run got two chairs. Luck is luck.
CWKPQ! - CarrionCrow - 2012-02-04
CrazyForDex Wrote:...Someone on my run got two chairs. Luck is luck.This. I have done the PQ maybe 10 times and I've never even seen a chair drop.
CWKPQ! - Kalovale - 2012-02-04
Exidous Wrote:It's unbalanced in the context of the horrifically broken things Nexon has done to the game in the past couple of years. And it's still some of the best designed content in the game.
I don't care if you can solo the bosses in CWKPQ, I care that you can do your room and arrive on time. The requirements of the pq itself are the perfect foil for the overfunded jackasses who think soloing is a solution to all their inadequacies. You cant solo your way to 10 signups, or 5 completed class specific rooms. You can't solo the organizer's directions.
CWKPQ needs to be fixed only to the extent the rest of the game was broken.
It is regardless worthless both for entertainment and profit purposes as it currently is in fact.
Needs to be fixed? Sure, I agree. What does that have to say about its present state of adequacy? Quite telling in my opinion.
What exactly is the point of the PQ? Gather 10 people of different classes together to hit Sigils? On time?
CWKPQ! - yo72 - 2012-02-04
CarrionCrow Wrote:This. I have done the PQ maybe 10 times and I've never even seen a chair drop.I've done cwkpq hundreds of times and usually on average 1-2 seals per bonus as a whole is average
but 1 chair in two pqs along with the boxes all containing 3 items max, something is up with bonus...
CWKPQ! - Exidous - 2012-02-05
CarrionCrow Wrote:Actually, you can since you do not have to be online, only signed up. So 5 "overfunded jackasses" could easily do it.And I love how regardless of the reason for someone having better gear, there are situations where it means substantially less than their ability to play with others, which seems to be a sticking point for many of the same people.
I do love how having a well built character is the equalent of being a thug or some such in some peoples minds. if it involves hacks and pomegranate, sure, but some people are just lucky or have deep pockets.
Kalovale Wrote:It is regardless worthless both for entertainment and profit purposes as it currently is in fact.What content in this game is useful for profit purposes? Everything of value comes more easily from hacking or NX. Even if YOU dont do those things, someone else does and the market is no longer profitable. And for that matter, CWKPQ at least has a small chance of ele wand or blackfist, things which haven't been reduced to cost in market value.
CWKPQ is entertaining for those of us with friends, in fact.
Quote:Needs to be fixed? Sure, I agree. What does that have to say about its present state of adequacy? Quite telling in my opinion.Its present state represents a time when MS as a whole was a lot more balanced. "Adequacy" in a game where every class has been given nuclear weapons is a terrible way to look at it. CWKPQ isn't what's been broken from a balance perspective, the rest of MS is.
Quote:What exactly is the point of the PQ? Gather 10 people of different classes together to hit Sigils? On time?Having varied tasks sure beats kill it till it dies, like most other pqs.
People being unable to CWKPQ due to hassle or not being able to muster people to a run is the limiting factor to access. For bosses, the limiting factor used to be damage, or not having the correct support or sed defense. Now that all classes are broken everythings that's no longer the case, no boss is beyond being easily attainable for any reason besides Nexon-induced glitch - and for that matter is probably soloable. CWKPQ may be the last content with an actual bar to entry, which in turn keeps its rewards halfway valuable.
And I find that hysterical.
CWKPQ! - MrTouchnGo - 2012-02-05
Phoenix Wrote:Two is the requirement though.
My bad; I misread his post. I thought he said the PQ said they required 3 Pirates. Blech.
On another note, went on two 5-man runs today, 'twas fun. Three minutes for all the bosses, what a joke.
CWKPQ! - Kalovale - 2012-02-05
Exidous Wrote:What content in this game is useful for profit purposes? Everything of value comes more easily from hacking or NX. Even if YOU dont do those things, someone else does and the market is no longer profitable. And for that matter, CWKPQ at least has a small chance of ele wand or blackfist, things which haven't been reduced to cost in market value.
CWKPQ is entertaining for those of us with friends, in fact.
Point being? The rest of the content being equally worthless does not add any more value to CWKPQ. If you have a choice between something easily accessible but worthless and something demanding but equally worthless, which would be a lesser evil?
And for the record, at this point, you have more chances at making money from 25% perfect scrolling Lvl 80 Maple Weapons than even getting in CWKPQ.
Exidous Wrote:Its present state represents a time when MS as a whole was a lot more balanced. "Adequacy" in a game where every class has been given nuclear weapons is a terrible way to look at it. CWKPQ isn't what's been broken from a balance perspective, the rest of MS is.
Again, point being? Whatever has changed is beside the problem when the current issue is that CWKPQ does not have any value in its current setting. Unless you take "CWKPQ is not that good" as a direct criticism towards CWKPQ in and of itself, then okay, cool story.
Exidous Wrote:Having varied tasks sure beats kill it till it dies, like most other pqs.
People being unable to CWKPQ due to hassle or not being able to muster people to a run is the limiting factor to access. For bosses, the limiting factor used to be damage, or not having the correct support or sed defense. Now that all classes are broken everythings that's no longer the case, no boss is beyond being easily attainable for any reason besides Nexon-induced glitch - and for that matter is probably soloable. CWKPQ may be the last content with an actual bar to entry, which in turn keeps its rewards halfway valuable.
And I find that hysterical.
Perhaps your idea of fun differs from mine and the rest of the world and mine likewise. However, what I'm offering is an example from the past, Guild PQ. Bar to entry - check, group activity - check, mild challenge - check, worthless rewards - check, out grown by community - check.
I'm sure there's a difference between these two PQs that would lead to CWKPQ's glorious triumph, but I doubt you have mentioned it.
CWKPQ! - Killmeplsok - 2012-02-05
CarrionCrow Wrote:I think SEA got the pirate too.
No, we don't.