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Archer %/s (KMS Unlimited and GMS Tempest) - VerrKol - 2012-10-17
fodjgngf Wrote:Instead of US, is Pierce a better single target non cap?
This has nothing to do with US vs Pierce at all. Tang is saying you get more hits/sec spamming pierce than spamming snipe. Since he notes the %/s is lower (obviously), it's not better unless you are well past cap on snipe.
Archer %/s (KMS Unlimited and GMS Tempest) - fodjgngf - 2012-10-17
VerrKol Wrote:This has nothing to do with US vs Pierce at all. Tang is saying you get more hits/sec spamming pierce than spamming snipe. Since he notes the %/s is lower (obviously), it's not better unless you are well past cap on snipe.
That's not what I'm asking.
Archer %/s (KMS Unlimited and GMS Tempest) - JoeTang - 2012-10-17
Oh. The second table uses Ultimate Strafe for single target, not Pierce. I'll edit the post to clarify that. Pierce is terrible single target unless you can cap uncharged. Then
Archer %/s (KMS Unlimited and GMS Tempest) - JoeTang - 2012-10-18
Check OP.
Archer %/s (KMS Unlimited and GMS Tempest) - Bribery - 2012-10-18
JoeTang Wrote:Marksman: Ultimate Strafe for Single Target
derp just realized that was for the non Hyper tables.
Why are Marksman's over/s so much higher than BMs though?
Archer %/s (KMS Unlimited and GMS Tempest) - JoeTang - 2012-10-18
Bribery Wrote:That'd be a bug. I've fixed that now.Wouldn't Snipe be better for single target now that it's 9 hits (10 with the hyper skill)?
derp just realized that was for the non Hyper tables.
Why are Marksman's over/s so much higher than BMs though?
Archer %/s (KMS Unlimited and GMS Tempest) - IllegallySane - 2012-10-18
When did Snipe become 9 hits instead of 1??? I've love to hear the science behind how a skill known as Snipe, aka a single powerful shot, can hit an enemy 10 times. Inb4 MAGICS.
Archer %/s (KMS Unlimited and GMS Tempest) - fodjgngf - 2012-10-19
Could I ask you to include elite puppet?
Opening Post not updated fully? Otherwise what changed from
1 Target: 5378%/s 5012%/s 4461%/s 3915%/s 2821%/s 20.46/s 21.15m/s
and the opening post?
Archer %/s (KMS Unlimited and GMS Tempest) - JoeTang - 2012-10-19
fodjgngf Wrote:Could I ask you to include elite puppet?
Opening Post not updated fully? Otherwise what changed from
1 Target: 5378%/s 5012%/s 4461%/s 3915%/s 2821%/s 20.46/s 21.15m/s
and the opening post?
Elite Puppet is already included. I forgot to add that to the description. I'm not sure what table you're comparing to the OP.
Archer %/s (KMS Unlimited and GMS Tempest) - fodjgngf - 2012-10-19
JoeTang Wrote:Elite Puppet is already included. I forgot to add that to the description. I'm not sure what table you're comparing to the OP.
Ohhh, okay thanks yeah. Sorry reading wrong tables.
Is casting Wind of Frey worth casting?
Archer %/s (KMS Unlimited and GMS Tempest) - RedRaven16 - 2012-10-19
IllegallySane Wrote:When did Snipe become 9 hits instead of 1??? I've love to hear the science behind how a skill known as Snipe, aka a single powerful shot, can hit an enemy 10 times. Inb4 MAGICS.
Snipe works like that because its so badass that a single hit wouldn't do it justice.
Archer %/s (KMS Unlimited and GMS Tempest) - JoeTang - 2012-10-19
fodjgngf Wrote:Is casting Wind of Frey worth casting?
Yes.
Archer %/s (KMS Unlimited and GMS Tempest) - fodjgngf - 2012-10-19
JoeTang Wrote:Yes.
Really.. doesn't seem like it's any good still.. What exactly makes it worth casting with a 4 second DoT? Do the hit's lost equal out?
Archer %/s (KMS Unlimited and GMS Tempest) - Wynmeister - 2012-10-19
IllegallySane Wrote:When did Snipe become 9 hits instead of 1??? I've love to hear the science behind how a skill known as Snipe, aka a single powerful shot, can hit an enemy 10 times. Inb4 MAGICS.
Tell me you were asking this when Snipe was first changed to 4 hits instead of 1 and I have a bridge I can sell you....
Archer %/s (KMS Unlimited and GMS Tempest) - JoeTang - 2012-10-19
fodjgngf Wrote:Really.. doesn't seem like it's any good still.. What exactly makes it worth casting with a 4 second DoT? Do the hit's lost equal out?
Well, for starters, it does 500% x 8 hits over 1020ms without Booster which is more damage than Hurricane does in the same time frame. Then you factor in the fact that with Booster and SI, the delay can be brought down to 780ms, it does even more damage. Then consider that it adds 10 seconds of 200%/s uncappable DoT, and that each hit does up to 10m damage for a total of 80m in under a second, I think it's a teensy bit better than Hurricane.
Archer %/s (KMS Unlimited and GMS Tempest) - fodjgngf - 2012-10-19
JoeTang Wrote:Well, for starters, it does 500% x 8 hits over 1020ms without Booster which is more damage than Hurricane does in the same time frame. Then you factor in the fact that with Booster and SI, the delay can be brought down to 780ms, it does even more damage. Then consider that it adds 10 seconds of 200%/s uncappable DoT, and that each hit does up to 10m damage for a total of 80m in under a second, I think it's a teensy bit better than Hurricane.
Well Hurricane Triggers AFA, does Wind of Frey do that?
Archer %/s (KMS Unlimited and GMS Tempest) - JoeTang - 2012-10-19
fodjgngf Wrote:Well Hurricane Triggers AFA, does Wind of Frey do that?
It doesn't, but why does it matter when I already calculated that Wind of Frey is stronger than Hurricane + AFA?
Archer %/s (KMS Unlimited and GMS Tempest) - fodjgngf - 2012-10-19
Well... I feel AFA and hurricane is still a little bit stronger than Wind of Frey. Just beating it by hits/sec if anything. Until maybe 2~3m per hit with wind of frey at the least.
Archer %/s (KMS Unlimited and GMS Tempest) - JoeTang - 2012-10-19
fodjgngf Wrote:Well... I feel AFA and hurricane is still a little bit stronger than Wind of Frey. Just beating it by hits/sec if anything.
That doesn't make any sense at all.
Archer %/s (KMS Unlimited and GMS Tempest) - fodjgngf - 2012-10-19
JoeTang Wrote:That doesn't make any sense at all.
8.33 Widely accepted as hurricanes hit/sec, x 1.7 = 14.61 hits/sec. Isnt it better to keep hurricane going, considering that hurricane+afa are producing more hits..?