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The Disaster in Japan, How We Can All Help - Locked - 2011-03-15 ShiKage Wrote:I really don't think I have to when the argument Sarah just produced was that the company (Apple store in her example) stating a 100% proceed donation, but that's not what Nexon has done. Her argument was invalidated instantly due to that reason alone. ...? Quote:You can also help from within your Nexon gameplay experience. In addition to Nexons donation, from March 14 through March 20, Nexon America will be donate 100 percent of the proceeds from the sale of many of our in-game items to the Red Cross for the Japan Earthquake and Pacific Tsunami disaster relief efforts. Come on bro. The Disaster in Japan, How We Can All Help - Link - 2011-03-15 Locked Wrote:...? Nexon America will be donate 100 percent of the proceeds from the sale of many of our in-game items many of our in-game items I'm sorry, but I really don't think that means 100% of the items in the cash shop. The Disaster in Japan, How We Can All Help - ShanghaiDizzy - 2011-03-15 LuxAeterna Wrote:Its still the readers fault for not READING it specifically tells you what to do and if you choose not to do it its your fault. If your in class and your teacher tells you to do a test on page 5 but check page 6 for instructions but you choose not to check page 6 is it the teachers fault or your own? There was a test I recall done in my high school consisting of 50 questions. At the very top of the page, it reads "Please read all of the instructions before writing down any answers." The tests lasts 5 minutes, and it's practically impossible to do all 50 questions. At the very end of the test, it states you have finished reading the questions, should have nothing on your piece of paper, so just write your name in the upper corner and turn it in. 99% of the students that took that test failed. The issue here isn't the reader's fault, but rather, the vagueness and difficult to interpret message hidden behind a single overlookable line that Nexon is trying to exploit from its consumers, further taking advantage of anyone with good intentions to purchase NX thinking they'd help out Japan at the same time. ShiKage Wrote:I really don't think I have to when the argument Sarah just produced was that the company (Apple store in her example) stating a 100% proceed donation, but that's not what Nexon has done. Her argument was invalidated instantly due to that reason alone. Once again, the big issue here is how IN-DEPTH you have to read it, which your last post just pointed out and nulled your former posts. Good job. And once again, Nexon fails to be a transparent company. The Disaster in Japan, How We Can All Help - Link - 2011-03-15 ShanghaiDizzy Wrote:There was a test I recall done in my high school consisting of 50 questions. At the very top of the page, it reads "Please read all of the instructions before writing down any answers." The tests lasts 5 minutes, and it's practically impossible to do all 50 questions. At the very end of the test, it states you have finished reading the questions, should have nothing on your piece of paper, so just write your name in the upper corner and turn it in. 99% of the students that took that test failed. The issue here isn't the reader's fault, but rather, the vagueness and difficult to interpret message hidden behind a single overlookable line that Nexon is trying to exploit from its consumers, further taking advantage of anyone with good intentions to purchase NX thinking they'd help out Japan at the same time. What the flying f'uck is there to read in-depth? Seriously... It's f'ucking spelled out for you. If you can't understand it, it's not Nexon's problem, it's YOUR problem. The Disaster in Japan, How We Can All Help - LuxAeterna - 2011-03-15 ShanghaiDizzy Wrote:There was a test I recall done in my high school consisting of 50 questions. At the very top of the page, it reads "Please read all of the instructions before writing down any answers." The tests lasts 5 minutes, and it's practically impossible to do all 50 questions. At the very end of the test, it states you have finished reading the questions, should have nothing on your piece of paper, so just write your name in the upper corner and turn it in. 99% of the students that took that test failed. The issue here isn't the reader's fault, but rather, the vagueness and difficult to interpret message hidden behind a single overlookable line that Nexon is trying to exploit from its consumers, further taking advantage of anyone with good intentions to purchase NX thinking they'd help out Japan at the same time. actually took the same test in 8th grade with 75% failure rating but it clearly says read all the questions and if you once again chose not to its YOUR FAULT FOR NOT FOLLOWING SPECIFIC INSTRUCTIONS... sorry but this is my stand o the case so far untill someone changes my mind The Disaster in Japan, How We Can All Help - Trust - 2011-03-15 The moral of this thread is, if you're a big company, you have to assume every single one of your customers has the comprehension of at least a 2 year old toddler or else you will become victim to everyone picking apart every single word you say. If they would just put large images telling you what will be donated out of the proceeds, then this thread wouldn't exist. Btw how in-depth is clicking one more link to find out what items are on sale? The Disaster in Japan, How We Can All Help - Locked - 2011-03-15 Trust Wrote:Btw how in-depth is clicking one more link to find out what items are on sale? Very hard according to them. Very. Very. Difficult. The Disaster in Japan, How We Can All Help - Sarah - 2011-03-15 ShiKage Wrote:What the flying f'uck is there to read in-depth? Okay, so let's say it is the fault of the people not reading. How is that helping Japan? If Nexon donated 5% of total revenue as I previously suggested would be nice then it wouldn't be an issue. If they marked which items would help japan with a flashy little sign like those HOT ones in the cash shop then they wouldn't have an excuse. They're not doing enough to make sure that the people who want to donate through them and are going out to buy NX to do that are actually helping. They're taking advantage of ignorance or stupidity. Locked Wrote:Very hard according to them. Doesn't matter if they do because Netto already proved that some people aren't going to understand what that says back on page 1 of this thread. The Disaster in Japan, How We Can All Help - Link - 2011-03-15 Sarah Wrote:Okay, so let's say it is the fault of the people not reading. How is that helping Japan? Does it really matter? I mean... by the time the money turns from dollars/credit to NX, it's Nexon's money. They can do whatever they want. If they say they're donating it it, does it MATTER what it is they choose to set for "donation sale items?" The Disaster in Japan, How We Can All Help - Locked - 2011-03-15 Sarah Wrote:Doesn't matter if they do because Netto already proved that some people aren't going to understand what that says back on page 1 of this thread. That would be reader fault. The word "Game" is capitalized, and the way the entire paragraph is worded clearly states a "Everything but X" clause. The Disaster in Japan, How We Can All Help - Sarah - 2011-03-15 ShiKage Wrote:Does it really matter? I mean... by the time the money turns from dollars/credit to NX, it's Nexon's money. They can do whatever they want. If they say they're donating it it, does it MATTER what it is they choose to set for "donation sale items?" It matters that they make sure people absolutely know what those items are. They shouldn't have to assume or guess. Trust sarcastically said that people need to be treated like 2 year olds but he's not wrong, they do. Every single thing needs to be spelled out. And it's money they're soliciting for a cause, if that money doesn't make it to that cause because of some issue on their end like a lack of clarity then there's a really big issue. The Disaster in Japan, How We Can All Help - Link - 2011-03-15 Sarah Wrote:It matters that they make sure people absolutely know what those items are. They shouldn't have to assume or guess. Trust sarcastically said that people need to be treated like 2 year olds but he's not wrong, they do. Every single thing needs to be spelled out. Yes, but really, EVERYONE should realize that once the transaction is complete, the transfer of money from YOUR hand to Nexon's hand, it's Nexon's to do with it whatever they damn well please. The only exception to that is the maybe 8 year-old players who probably don't know what the dollar bill is. It really, really, really does not matter which items are "being sold for a cause," because the money you give to Nexon is already divided up between what's going into Nexon's pocket and what's going to charity before you can even figure out what you're going to spend that NX cash on. The fact that "certain in-game items' proceeds are going to charity" is just for players to feel better about buying certain items. Anyone with a brain should realize this information and if they don't, it's not Nexon's fault. It's the fault of the player. The Disaster in Japan, How We Can All Help - LuxAeterna - 2011-03-15 Sarah Wrote:Okay, so let's say it is the fault of the people not reading. How is that helping Japan? theoretically speaking what happens when people ignore that lol charity sign that they would put up like they do hot items cause im sure next to no one(some people but not all) notices the little flashy hot image on some cash shop items will this also be nexons fault or would it finally be the person ignoring whats right in there faces? The Disaster in Japan, How We Can All Help - Sarah - 2011-03-15 I'm sorry this is so difficult for you guys to understand. I'm done trying to get through to you. I hope everyone who reads this intending to donate makes sure they do it the right way. The Disaster in Japan, How We Can All Help - Anonymous Moose - 2011-03-15 I believe a few people are missing the point. First, its obvious that nexon is just capitalizing on the event for some extra profit ("Never let a crisis go to waste"). Second, we have absolutely no way of knowing how truthful nexon is being, as they are not exactly open and honest towards us. The Disaster in Japan, How We Can All Help - Link - 2011-03-15 Anonymous Moose Wrote:I believe a few people are missing the point. First, its obvious that nexon is just capitalizing on the event for some extra profit ("Never let a crisis go to waste"). Second, we have absolutely no way of knowing how truthful nexon is being, as they are not exactly open and honest towards us. What the f'uck are you expecting Nexon to do, show their bank statements to you? No company would ever say that they're doing something for a cause and then not do it, because that would put them in the grave. They're not capitalizing on the event. Sure, they may be making money, but it's their own damn right to sell their product and make money off of their own damn product. However, if they say they're donating some of it to a charity, you shouldn't be here bashing Nexon, calling it a horrible company because you don't understand that only part of the revenue goes to charity. I'm sorry that Nexon isn't going BANKRUPT to make you happy. Which items are being put in the spotlight really does not matter. Nexon has the money divided up before you even realize what you're going to spend the money on. Go ahead and buy cubes, 2x drop cards, and everything else, because that really doesn't matter. What matters is that you're spending your real life money on NX, giving Nexon money to give to a charity. The Disaster in Japan, How We Can All Help - Anonymous Moose - 2011-03-15 ShiKage Wrote:What the f'uck are you expecting Nexon to do, show their bank statements to you? No company? I've repeatedly mentioned that during 9/11 charities donated next to no money collected to the families. Only an extremely small portion reached them. If you think no company can be dishonest and not abuse disasters for a quick profit, then you are dead wrong. Those ignorant of history are doomed to repeat it. The Disaster in Japan, How We Can All Help - Link - 2011-03-15 Alright. You've convinced me. Nexon is an evil, evil, evil company. It should have mentioned that not 100% of every single item in every cash shop in every game is "geared toward helping the Japanese" at least one hundred times in the single notice, because that's how many times it would take before one would ever read and understand it properly. Nexon is an abomination and is doing this to gain so much more profit than they ever have and any donation they claim they have or will give is a pure lie and no one should ever even THINK that Nexon would ever donate a single penny to anyone no matter the circumstance. They are the absolute worst people and company in the world. The Disaster in Japan, How We Can All Help - ShanghaiDizzy - 2011-03-15 ShiKage Wrote:What the flying f'uck is there to read in-depth? 1) If you wish to hold a proper argument, refrain from cussing. 2) I myself had no problems reading and understanding it. However, many other consumers did. Locked Wrote:That would be reader fault. The word "Game" is capitalized, and the way the entire paragraph is worded clearly states a "Everything but X" clause. Had they worded it like that, less misunderstandings would occur. Had they shown a picture/snapshot/whatever of what they're excluding, that would also cause less misunderstandings. The key success to becoming a respectable company, big or small, is transparency. Your consumers need to understand what you're saying with as little poetic/vague diction used when possible. The Disaster in Japan, How We Can All Help - Link - 2011-03-15 ShanghaiDizzy Wrote:1) If you wish to hold a proper argument, refrain from cussing. 1) This is the internet -- freedom of speech. I can say any word I want as long as I'm not braking these forum's rules. It's an effective method to getting a person's attention to show seriousness and if you don't like it, don't reply. |