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Elemental Weapons Bonuses Return - Luffy - 2011-03-21
Shidoshi Wrote:I'm not asking for AM monopoly of elemental weapons. I don't care HOW they fix the problem (which you apparently fail to see) of imbalance between classes. One of the causes of that imbalance are estaffs being fast[4].
Stop grouping all classes as "the mages", class balance has nothing to do with class groups. I don't care if we are "all mages" we should be all balanced, if BaM is strong that doesn't make it OK for other mages to be weak.
Haha, well mages in general are a underpowered class to start off with. Even with the elestaffs, we are barely on par with other classes dpm-wise.
I'm saying what you are trying to deny: Some classes were meant to be inherently stronger than other classes.
What happens when a bishop complains about his/her dpm? No one cares because they're not meant to be powerful dpm-wise.
P.S. Battle Mages are mage-warriors. We're beasts.
Elemental Weapons Bonuses Return - Abysseon - 2011-03-21
Dusk Wrote:There's no way to really balance them. They were such a horrible idea to begin with. If Nexon Korea actually fixes Arch Mages so that we can actually deal decent DPS and not have to spam Teleport at melee range, then I'm sure more people will find the existence of the 130 and 163 elemental weapons broken for us, too. They're pretty much the equivalent of a level 163 sword with like 170 base attack, plus an extra % bonus. That's just ridiculous.
They're not a horrible idea when a majority of the weapons come from using nx purchases.
Its similar to other advantages players can obtain that others cannot afford. (1.3/1.5x cards, cubes, ect.)
On another note, the announcement nexon made for removing the bonuses before big bang just looks moronic right now. =/
Elemental Weapons Bonuses Return - Dusk - 2011-03-21
Abysseon Wrote:They're not a horrible idea when a majority of the weapons come from using nx purchases.
Its similar to other advantages players can obtain that others cannot afford. (1.3/1.5x cards, cubes, ect.)
On another note, the announcement nexon made for removing the bonuses before big bang just looks moronic right now. =/
They are a horrible idea because they're only for one class and they are much better than anything Nexon Korea has added to the game. Version-exclusive content is a failed concept when 99% of your new content is imported from a different version. Just makes things much harder to implement and balance.
Elemental Weapons Bonuses Return - Eos - 2011-03-22
Luffy Wrote:Just a question: Why did nexon give elemental staffs a fast weapon speed when A/M's don't get the full advantage from the fastness of the weapon speed? Why not just give it a normal/slow speed?
Because
A) There was no reason not to at the time
and
B) Gave us a higher level weapon that we could open boxes at the end of PQs with faster so people didn't have to swap to crappy lower weapons just to get boxes open as fast as their other party members.
Elemental Weapons Bonuses Return - Luffy - 2011-03-22
Eosian Wrote:Because
A) There was no reason not to at the time
and
B) Gave us a higher level weapon that we could open boxes at the end of PQs with faster so people didn't have to swap to crappy lower weapons just to get boxes open as fast as their other party members.
C. We don't know and can't be sure
Elemental Weapons Bonuses Return - Eos - 2011-03-22
Luffy Wrote:C. We don't know and can't be sure
What don't we know? Both of those were provable facts based on the situation of the game at the time.
You keep insisting there are things we don't know but all you do is suggest more stuff we absolutely can't know the truth of and have nothing but supposition regarding.
You're officially banned from this topic unless you have something specific, provable and new to contribute to it.