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Ask a Warrior Thread. - HiiEN - 2008-08-30

Acim Wrote:One of my old guildmates soloed at Peak of the Big Nest (with Skelesauruses and nest golems, I believe, not sure) from 120 to 130, then quit.

H33r is @ kweshun from meh: Okay, so I'm a dexless in Yellonde. EVERYONE is telling me, add points in DEX, reset when the times necessary. I'm asking, if I put my DEX up to 30 or so, will I be able to make that much STR up (26 STR :O) from equips? And how much will this affect my damage? Thanks.
Get a 20+ str top and just wear a str cape. Rest will fall into place.


Ask a Warrior Thread. - Birdie - 2008-08-31

I justed wanted to know what % an hour other people got training at gobies in late 9x. I am there now and the exp seems to suck, although, its not any better at other places I have tried( wolf spiders, kents, duals). It seems like Im getting 10-15% an hour solo. Is there anywhere else I can try?


Ask a Warrior Thread. - HiiEN - 2008-08-31

Birdie Wrote:I justed wanted to know what % an hour other people got training at gobies in late 9x. I am there now and the exp seems to suck, although, its not any better at other places I have tried( wolf spiders, kents, duals). It seems like Im getting 10-15% an hour solo. Is there anywhere else I can try?
If you train there with a priest and one other attacker gobies aren't too bad. But then again for my level 15%/hr soloing is godly to me lol.


Ask a Warrior Thread. - chocolateD - 2008-08-31

MaxHudson Wrote:When should I stop using Panic and go pure Brandish? I've been wondering this for awhile, in common terms of training/bossing?

And at 125 would it be smart to add one point to AC for the 30% chance of 2 orbs gained?
go pure brandish when you get to hit 3 monsters(lvl 21 brandish) per brandish
once you get to hit 3 monsters start putting points to ac
so when you lvl up you put 2 pts to brandish then 1 to ac for little attack dmg boost
Birdie Wrote:I justed wanted to know what % an hour other people got training at gobies in late 9x. I am there now and the exp seems to suck, although, its not any better at other places I have tried( wolf spiders, kents, duals). It seems like Im getting 10-15% an hour solo. Is there anywhere else I can try?
at lvl 9x gobies is godly exp with a good moving party
just get a priest and a couple of attackers and you should be set
i cant remember how much exp i got back then during the goby days but all i know the exp is good.


Ask a Warrior Thread. - Birdie - 2008-08-31

HiiEN Wrote:If you train there with a priest and one other attacker gobies aren't too bad. But then again for my level 15%/hr soloing is godly to me lol.

chocolateD Wrote:at lvl 9x gobies is godly exp with a good moving party
just get a priest and a couple of attackers and you should be set
i cant remember how much exp i got back then during the goby days but all i know the exp is good.

thanks for the quick replies. I did another 30 minutes solo and gained about 6%. Then someone came and asked if I wanted to party, so I went but they had no priest so it was pretty slow. I will have to try the 2 attackers and 1 priest formation later. Thanks again


Ask a Warrior Thread. - Arroz - 2008-08-31

chocolateD Wrote:go pure brandish when you get to hit 3 monsters(lvl 21 brandish) per brandish
once you get to hit 3 monsters start putting points to ac
so when you lvl up you put 2 pts to brandish then 1 to ac for little attack dmg boost

at lvl 9x gobies is godly exp with a good moving party
just get a priest and a couple of attackers and you should be set
i cant remember how much exp i got back then during the goby days but all i know the exp is good.

considering it is a peach to get brandish 30 I wouldn't recommend this AT ALL, at lvl 8 brandish will pretty much own PS panic combo just by its speed, the big pitfall of early brandish is that it doesn't kb for a bit on hard monsters. You get AC 1 point the SAME TIME you get brandish so you have the 30% chance of getting orbs faster because there are still times you may still use panic/coma. Once brandish is at 20 put points into ACA till you pass a 30 book but always keep 1 extra sp so when you pass it you get the 3 monsters which is godly

GOBIE PARTIES ARE DEAD, I did it when everyone was there and got from 30-40% an hour on 2x at lvl 93, I would suggest leeching a mage as your fastest bet, but a more reliable solution would be to try himes with a low lvl priest. it will be alot easier to find that then a whole gobie party for more then an hour


Ask a Warrior Thread. - 'Lexy - 2008-08-31

Acim Wrote:One of my old guildmates soloed at Peak of the Big Nest (with Skelesauruses and nest golems, I believe, not sure) from 120 to 130, then quit.

H33r is @ kweshun from meh: Okay, so I'm a dexless in Yellonde. EVERYONE is telling me, add points in DEX, reset when the times necessary. I'm asking, if I put my DEX up to 30 or so, will I be able to make that much STR up (26 STR :O) from equips? And how much will this affect my damage? Thanks.

Wut.

Lan, I'd stay dexless.


Ask a Warrior Thread. - Acim - 2008-08-31

'Lexy Wrote:Wut.

Lan, I'd stay dexless.

Yeah, I'm doing that. Stereo proved that with some luck and a bit of money, I can reach 151 ACC at level 120, without a HT pendant. Big Grin


Ask a Warrior Thread. - 'Lexy - 2008-09-01

Acim Wrote:Yeah, I'm doing that. Stereo proved that with some luck and a bit of money, I can reach 151 ACC at level 120, without a HT pendant. Big Grin
And because you'll never get to a level where accuracy is crucial.


Ask a Warrior Thread. - Hazzy - 2008-09-01

So I'm thinking of restarting my page. :> He's level 59, Dexless, BW. I know, so creative. :x
Anyway, I have no idea where to train. At the moment, I'm dead broke. Selling some stars and old gach scrolls on my sin in hopes of getting some income. If all works out well, I'll have 20-30m or so at my hands. Big Grin
I'm thinking about adding Dex. I can live with a low Dex build, not too keen on using a Maple Weapon till 70. Course, I know I have the 64 Maple Weapon laying around on my Islander, so I might just use that. :|
Anyway, questions.
  • Where should I train? At the moment, my range, acc, and other stuff that comes in handy. I have around 500k in mesos and a few hundred pots between my Page and sin, more after I NPC some stuff. :x (Edit: Sold some scrolls. Now I got 21m. :>)
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  • How much does it cost to stay Dexless into the mid 70s? 80s? (I'm in Khaini, but rough estimates are fine.) How much cheaper would it be to pump my Dex up 20-30 or so points? How much damage would that cost me?
All I can think of at the moment. I'll be sure to come back if I think of more. Big Grin

Please and thank yous. Big Grin


Ask a Warrior Thread. - Acim - 2008-09-01

'Lexy Wrote:And because you'll never get to a level where accuracy is crucial.

I believe I will this time. So shut up.

Hazzy, right now dexlesses generally need upwards of 250m~500m minimum. Big Grin

Where should I be training? 26 ACC at level 26. Caution: Falling Down is a bit slow and I haven't tried Ant Tunnel. What would be good?


Ask a Warrior Thread. - Hazzy - 2008-09-01

250m-500m for when? I'm sure it cost more to be Dexless at 150 than it does at 50. :x
I just wanna know how much it'd cost for me to stay Dexless 'till 75-80ish, then go low Dex versus going low Dex now. :x
I think I'll be fine, accuracy wise, for a while. Yey 64 Maple Weapons.


Ask a Warrior Thread. - sumtingverywong - 2008-09-12

i need opinions of dark knights on this question. would it be smart to put 10 lvls of ap points into hp so that it would easier to beserk without dying? this is sort of like blood building for bowmen just so that a dark knight can beserk almost 100% of the time? i'm thinking the 170% increase at lvl 21 is greater then 7-8 atk overall damage increase?


Ask a Warrior Thread. - GMSInfighter - 2008-09-12

I'm at Wild Boars at level 22 right now and I get about 10% in 3 minutes so I level kind of fast..

But would KPQ be faster? :O

35 accuracy with pot btw :O


Ask a Warrior Thread. - MaxHudson - 2008-09-15

That or you could Araint PQ. Kerning PQ's exp is slower... alot. its good per pq but last time I checked its still hard to get into a party.

I'd say if you do ariant PQ get a good level 29 friend to get all your jewls then bomb him and get a higher score (If he's nice and will let you do this)

I'ma be doing this for a friend of mine soon =]


Ask a Warrior Thread. - Nickish - 2008-09-16

When should i cap my dex zhelms are not a prob


Ask a Warrior Thread. - RFSurg - 2008-09-16

Once you understand how much acc you need to hit what you want to hit 100%(ussualy around 139 for training, 165 for horntail) the base dex you need becomes obvious. Look at the stats of your equips and see how much acc you'll get from them all together(1 dex = .8 acc, 1 luk = .5 acc). Google for an acc calculator and put in your stats + whatever you're training's stats to see your hit rate and acc required to hit 100%. If you need more acc upgrade your equips as much as possible; add dex to your base only as a last resort.

Ussualy it's possible to be dexless at least up until your 80s with ease. Even after it isn't too hard to be dexless with good acc/dex equips.


Ask a Warrior Thread. - Nikkey - 2008-09-16

Nickish Wrote:When should i cap my dex zhelms are not a prob

Dex or acc?

Anyway, at 4, since you have the possibility to get one.


Ask a Warrior Thread. - Luscent - 2008-09-17

Alright, so I decided to make myself a Dexless Fighter. Currently I'm only level 50, but that isn't what I'm worried about. I just managed to get myself a 116/13 Blue Screamer to use at level 80, so my equips, from what I've gathered so far, look like this:

15/16/15/15 Zhelm
Deputy Star Pendant
3/8 Dex PAC
11 Accuracy Snowshoes
25/13 Overall
116/13 Blue Screamer
13 ATT BWG's
7 Dex Nose

So with all that, I have about 2.1 billion meso to upgrade, which I believe leaves me with quite a few options. Where should I start upgrading?

Also I can get myself a 120 ATT Sunrise, not sure about the STR on it. How long would this Sunrise last me? Should I buy it, or just use the Screamer until I have a good enough Brandish and upgrade to 1 Handed/Shield?


Ask a Warrior Thread. - RFSurg - 2008-09-17

The acc you get from those equips should last you a while, you should work on coverting dex gear to str and acc gear to dex(for a little damage boost if you really want more). Try scrolling your zhelm for 28-30+ dex if you can get into a steady zrun and dump that dex pac for a str pac(or chao scrolled for more attack if possible)

I'd keep the screamer and go 1h once you have enough brandish, but it depends on the deal and how long you're going to be using a 2h sword.