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Greek Mythos Mafia - Game Over, Town wins - y0y0y0y0shi0 - 2010-11-19

ThatHurts Wrote:I'm not dead... I was lynched then brought back from the dead by Corn.
Oh, Corn brought you back? Guess I missed that part. Never mind then. Rolleyes

Greek Mythos Mafia - Game Over, Town wins - ElectricSix - 2010-11-19

Lol. Anyway, as far as the meta game discussion y0shi, I don't think it's a bad idea, but at the same time it's only tangentially related to the game, so I tend to think of it as more of a distraction than necessarily helpful. Thus, while I do it, at the same time I try to stop myself before it becomes a discussion about past games as well. This is the game we're playing right now after all, not the past games.

Greek Mythos Mafia - Game Over, Town wins - y0y0y0y0shi0 - 2010-11-19

I think that's a lot of the issue, E6. Most of these past few games have been won, how? Through the in-game abilities. There's been little to no discussion on how people act compared to their previous actions. And I have yet to see any real scumhunting techniques. Sure, the town has won the majority of the games, but a lot of the past few games have been lacking in foundation. I've always seen it as if you focus too hard on the current game you'll get too wrapped up in the deception the scum has been laying out for the town. A lot of games are won solely on the confusion of the town due to the actions of the scum in an attempt to divert the attention of the town away from what they're attempting to fulfill.

Greek Mythos Mafia - Game Over, Town wins - ElectricSix - 2010-11-19

While I don't want to go into specifics, my early voting is part of my own strategy to get things going. The games I've seen where the town flails around for the first two or three days have made me feel that even if there's some risk to my being lynched early on, it's worth it to get people actively voting and participating. So far it's not worked out quite as well as I'd wished, but the fact that there's been enough people particpating, and with differing thoughts to tie votes up, is a good thing. The more the mafia has to post, the more people have to vote, the better off the town is. Silence is the best weapon for the mafia after all. Anyway, to get back on topic, I think that while talking about past games adds to that to an extent, there's a point at which it starts getting into the territory of discussing general strategy, play styles, etc. that while interesting, should really be held elsewhere. It's not that it's a bad thing to discuss such things in this thread, but again, I feel like it starts to derail the purpose of the game thread itself, which is to be about this specific game. I dunno, I guess I just like to let the story stay intact, which is hard to do when you're discussing mechanics, thoughts on players, etc. that while they do relate to the game, are taking things out of the game too.

Greek Mythos Mafia - Game Over, Town wins - Manu - 2010-11-19

After everyone had gathered, the votes were split into 2 people, ElectricSix and TKWizard. The arguments went back and forth but in the end there was only one answer, TKWizard had to face his death.
Before they could lynch him, he spoke up. "You got me, I am, in fact, the god of the underworld. But this isn't over, someone will keep on with what I'm doing here, I will become the most powerful of all go--" before he could finish his line he was killed.
When everyone searched through his things, they noticed that he was telling the truth.

Quote:Dear TKWizard

You are Hades, the king of the underworld, and in your human form, you are the king of the Mafia group. Every night you can send me a PM with “Night X – Get rid of USER”, that user will die or be sent back to Olympus if he/she was a god. As the king of mafia, you can’t get detected by the Delphi Oracle.
You are Mafia aligned (obviously), and you win if there’s at least one mafia alive, and nothing can stop mafia form winning.

It is now Night 2, send your night actions in. Day 3 starts at 10 PM EST or when all night actions are in.

Greek Mythos Mafia - Game Over, Town wins - MasPan - 2010-11-20

y0y0y0y0shi0 Wrote:Some notes now that I've finished rereading:

As I said previously, the Gorgon trio aren't necessarily neutrals (see: ThatHurts' flip). I'm not saying I'm the last in the trio, but I've seen quite a few scenarios where there have been "teams" (Siblings/Twins/whatnot) where some of the "team" members have been scum while others haven't.

Synthesist and Corn are probably the only 2 complete town reads I have so far. Synthesist's aggression toward Corn could only have resulted from a townie, and Corn's WIFOM kill-at-night roleclaim was, although stupid and risky, a town move.

MasPan, may I ask why you're voting for E6 if you believe that No Lynch is a better option? Just seems...odd.

E6's vote on TK, although justified with reasoning, could possibly lead to something in the future depending on the resolve.

TK's defensive stance seems a bit scummy, although I'm not entirely sure what to take out of it so far. It could simply be a strong town role who doesn't want to die, or a player that doesn't want to give up their life. It's hard to tell at this point.

Also, if I'm not mistaken, ThatHurts' vote was counted in the last vote count even though they're dead. You might want to correct that.

And on the comment of the conversation involving too much meta game; Mafia IS Meta Game. Someone's meta game is always useful in reading other players.

[color="#cc8899"]I voted for E6 because of his aggressive vote against TK. I forgot to change it afterwards (I've been at a buddy's house playin Black Ops).

-Edit-
Oh, didn't see that day ended. :/[/COLOR]

Greek Mythos Mafia - Game Over, Town wins - Manu - 2010-11-20

I'm posting to apologize for being a sucky host. Unfortunately I'm going out tonight, won't be home until around 2AM I guess (12EST), so I'll have to delay the day start a little bit. I hope you guys understand, it was my graduation yesterday so I've been very busy. Again, I'm sorry.
I'll edit this post once I get home with the start of Day 3.

Greek Mythos Mafia - Game Over, Town wins - Manu - 2010-11-21

Ok sorry for the delay, I'm here now.

Everyone woke up in the morning happy to still be alive, they could feel it, someone had died again. It took them no time to find out the house of the dead person that day, that person was ElectricSix.
"The shadows are there again, I can't get nothing of who that was, there's a little light that gets in between it, all I see is that he was one of us" said the priestess.
As everyone was around the body, a huge storm starts out of the sudden, everyone seeks for shelter, and while they're running a thunder strikes MetaSeraphim, he died instantly, and the skies cleared like if nothing had happened.
"This is the power of a god".
As they searched through MetaSeraphim's belongings, they found something shocking, he was Ares, the god of war.

Quote:Dear MetaSeraphim

You are Ares, the god of war. You don’t have a special ability, but if Hades dies, you will take his place as the leader, picking the night kill and being hidden from Delphi oracle.
You are Mafia aligned, you win if there’s at least one mafia alive, and nothing can stop mafia form winning.

It is now Day 2, Night 3 starts at 10 PM EST like it should be (sorry again!), or when a majority of votes has been reached.

Greek Mythos Mafia - Game Over, Town wins - MasPan - 2010-11-21

[color="#cc8899"]I'd been meaning to address this yesterday - there is one of the following amongst us. The past 2 lynches occurred despite a tie.

1. A double voter (their vote gets doubled)
2. A stealth voter (secret vote)
3. A double voter (target vote gets doubled)

1 is most likely and would be either ElectricSix or Holypie. 2 and 3 would be impossible to identify, though 3 would've targeted Holypie, ElectricSix, or Corn on Night0/Day1 and E6, Holypie, or Kajiti on Night1/Day2.

I was originally going to suggest that the two vote for themselves and eveyone else tie the vote. Since ElectrixSix has been killed, I suggest that Holypie vote for himself and others tie the vote. If he gets lynched, he will be proven to be a doublevoter.
Unless, ofc, the doublevoter is willing to step forward.
Whoever the doublevoter is has been more than happy to silently bypass a RNG kill. That is very, very suspicious behavior, though they did vote for a mafian yesterday. My best guess at this time is a neutral.


For now, [][vote]Holypie[/B] [/COLOR]

Greek Mythos Mafia - Game Over, Town wins - xBTAx - 2010-11-21

I normally wouldn't do this, but it's around 3 AM and I want to get this in before I go to bed, so I'm going to loosen up a bit...

Since 2 mafia members are dead, we might as well get the rest out of the way, even if means I'll die a little bit earlier than I'd like. I am Apollo. Each night I can ask the oracle at Delphi about a user. Their alignment will be revealed to me. Because I couldn't use this night 0 (though I asked about Corn, so it wouldn't have helped anyway), these are my results so far:

1. Yoshi is innocent.
2. E6 is mafia.

Now, that doesn't line up with what we learned about E6. So, this is what I'm proposing: unless someone's powers are intervening (which should definitely be considered), I get the opposite result of the truth, and Yoshi is a member of the mafia.

Alternatively, I'm insane and get random results. In which case, me getting killed because of this reveal doesn't matter to the town anyway.

Greek Mythos Mafia - Game Over, Town wins - Holypie - 2010-11-21

Why me? Why not anyone else who (successfully) voted for TKWizard? i don't see why you're targeting me... Double voter is usually a town role anyway (mayor) so why would you try to get rid of it? Also a story issue, Ares is supposed to be a good guy, why is he second in command of the mafia? That aside,[ B] [vote] MasPan[/B] until he comes up with real evidence against me, because for now it just looks like he's targeting me for no reason.

Greek Mythos Mafia - Game Over, Town wins - MasPan - 2010-11-21

Holypie Wrote:Why me? Why not anyone else who (successfully) voted for TKWizard? i don't see why you're targeting me... Double voter is usually a town role anyway (mayor) so why would you try to get rid of it? Also a story issue, Ares is supposed to be a good guy, why is he second in command of the mafia? That aside, [vote] MasPan until he comes up with real evidence against me, because for now it just looks like he's targeting me for no reason.

[color="#cc8899"]You and E6 are the only people who could possibly be doublevoters, and he's dead. If you change your vote to yourself, I'll change mine to myself. Hell, I'll do it now as a show of good faith (gotta go shopping).

It's not JUST TK that gave away a 2x'rs presence, but TH from day 1. You and E6 share that you both voted for them and in both cases a tied vote resulted in your target dying.

Also, lol @ you complaining about the very thing you did (albeit justifiably) to TK yesterday. Again, the issue I have with you (or E6) is that the way whichever of you is doublevoting is very sneaky and underhanded. Allowing a tie to be apparent and then offing a person secretly is a very, VERY scummy move.[/COLOR][][vote] MasPan[/B]

[color="#cc8899"]Incidentally, I've noticed there haven't been any floodings recently. I'm guessing either E6 or Dual was Poseidon, likely Dual (assuming it was a spammable ability)

Holypie, the reason I want a tied vote with your vote going to yourself is to prove that you aren't the doublevoter. Worst case scenario then, a RNG kill occurs anyway.[/COLOR]

Greek Mythos Mafia - Game Over, Town wins - Corn - 2010-11-21

While Holypie is probably the doublevoter, I see no real evidence that he's neutral or mafia.

Greek Mythos Mafia - Game Over, Town wins - MasPan - 2010-11-21

Corn Wrote:While Holypie is probably the doublevoter, I see no real evidence that he's neutral or mafia.

[color="#cc8899"]Like I said, my suspicion rests in the rather underhanded tactics employed - day 1 we all expected a RNG godkill (with a fair chance at catching a mafian) but the 2x'r allowed the vote to go to TH anyway. Day 2 had a similar effect. Holypie also jumped on the TK lynch with little to no evidence - while he was justified, this is very suspicious to me. I don't want HP killed, I just want the underhanded bs to stop. Stop circumventing the town's vote by doublevoting.

By doublevoting in the shadows, someone is essentially saying that they know better than the town's wishes and that cannot be tolerated - it's too dangerous to the town to have a hidden doublevoter changing the outcome of a tied or close vote without our knowledge.[/COLOR]

Greek Mythos Mafia - Game Over, Town wins - Holypie - 2010-11-21

Actually, I was just bandwagoning that time. For ties in this game, I think Dark just godkills between the two lynch suspects, instead of godkilling from the entire player pool. Another thing is how you're so sure ElectricSix isn't the double voter, his information was never posted (What's with all of this anyway?) and since he's town (according to the priestess) he may have been a trolly mayor. Anyway, I'm not mafia OR the double voter, I'll roleclaim Athena. Also, I don't know who my protegee is (according to Mute's role pm).

Greek Mythos Mafia - Game Over, Town wins - MasPan - 2010-11-21

Holypie Wrote:Actually, I was just bandwagoning that time. For ties in this game, I think Dark just godkills between the two lynch suspects, instead of godkilling from the entire player pool. Another thing is how you're so sure ElectricSix isn't the double voter, his information was never posted (What's with all of this anyway?) and since he's town (according to the priestess) he may have been a trolly mayor. Anyway, I'm not mafia OR the double voter, I'll roleclaim Athena. Also, I don't know who my protegee is (according to Mute's role pm).

[color="#cc8899"]I never said I'm sure that E6 wasn't the doublevoter - I said it's simple for you to prove that you aren't - vote for yourself and the rest of us tie the vote by voting for ourselves.

I would appreciate you at least unvoting me for the time being - I unvoted you as a show of good faith, and I'm not seeing the gesture returned. [/COLOR]

Greek Mythos Mafia - Game Over, Town wins - Holypie - 2010-11-21

Oh I forgot about that.

Edit: Actually, looking at the discussion thread, it occurred to me that E6 is Zeus, which explains the bolt of lightning that revenge killed MetaSeraphim. It would also explain E6 being the double voter, because King of the Gods = "Mayor" most likely. So it was E6 who was the double voter.

Greek Mythos Mafia - Game Over, Town wins - MasPan - 2010-11-21

Unvoting for now because I'm going shopping and don't want something crazy to happen.

Greek Mythos Mafia - Game Over, Town wins - xBTAx - 2010-11-21

Holypie Wrote:Why me? Why not anyone else who (successfully) voted for TKWizard? i don't see why you're targeting me... Double voter is usually a town role anyway (mayor) so why would you try to get rid of it? Also a story issue, Ares is supposed to be a good guy, why is he second in command of the mafia? That aside,[ B] [vote] MasPan[/B] until he comes up with real evidence against me, because for now it just looks like he's targeting me for no reason.

You're complaining about Ares not being a good guy? How about the fact that Hades isn't evil? Rolleyes

I, uh, also like how everyone ignored what I said. Tongue

Greek Mythos Mafia - Game Over, Town wins - Nalek - 2010-11-21

[Vote] MasPan My powers had revealed a clock picture of Corn(Chronos, Time Powers), and today they revealed a Picture of the shadows for MasPan


Darkmaniak Wrote:Everyone woke up in the morning happy to still be alive, they could feel it, someone had died again. It took them no time to find out the house of the dead person that day, that person was ElectricSix.
"The shadows are there again, I can't get nothing of who that was, there's a little light that gets in between it, all I see is that he was one of us" said the priestess.

MasPan is acting like he's a townie pretty well thus the all I can see is that he's one of us. And the shadow picture that was shown for him matches up with the priestess' words. MasPan is definitely mafia and needs to be taken care of. We already have gotten rid of 2. Note how hard he tried to protect TKW who turned out to be Hades.