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[1.2.328] Battlemages get their spotlight - Zacairga - 2010-07-16

Kalovale Wrote:It doesn't help that Fiel has to be the only one going through the mumbo jumbo. What difference does this way of working make apart from the fact that we get to see the changes (despite not fully comprehending them) much much earlier?

I dislike having to think. I come here to check out new stuff. It's a free service being provided to me, but if the service becomes hard to comprehend I just won't. I'm not hasseling him about it in any way. Notice the thread is far less active than they usually are? It's because it's harder to understand. Fiel can take his break from decrypting, it doesn't particularly bother me. Hell, he can stop if he wants to and I wouldn't mind too much. I honestly don't get why you're trying to pick a fight over this.


[1.2.328] Battlemages get their spotlight - Kalovale - 2010-07-16

Zacairga Wrote:I dislike having to think. I come here to check out new stuff. It's a free service being provided to me, but if the service becomes hard to comprehend I just won't. I'm not hasseling him about it in any way. Notice the thread is far less active than they usually are? It's because it's harder to understand. Fiel can take his break from decrypting, it doesn't particularly bother me. Hell, he can stop if he wants to and I wouldn't mind too much. I honestly don't get why you're trying to pick a fight over this.

So you're suggesting we should either make it easier for you while placing more burden on the shoulders of a person giving a free service, or shut down all together? If we have a poll for this, I'm afraid I can't choose either.
If, say, a treasure hunter wants to read an ancient transcript yet doesn't understand what it says, that isn't anyone's problems. They either put effort into understanding it, or leave it to rot. While you do have an alternative here, I'd have to say that burdening other people for your own pleasure, when it's offered for free to begin with, is rather distasteful.
Yes, we don't give a flying Pineapple whether or not you care to try and understand what Fiel posts. We do, however, have a problem with the extrations stop coming out. In a time of hardship, you struggle to adapt to it, not pressure others to make it easy for you. That's just my personal codes, anyway.


[1.2.328] Battlemages get their spotlight - Hanabira.Kage - 2010-07-16

Umm...can anyone check the spoiler in my previous post so as to check whether I got the stuff right...?



[1.2.328] Battlemages get their spotlight - aarparp - 2010-07-16

미러 이미징
일정 시간동안 자신과 똑같은 모습의 분신을 소환한다. 별도의 체력은 없으며 공격 보조의 기능을 하게 된다. 일부 스킬에서는 효과가 제한된다.\n#c11레벨 이상 : 마스터리 북 필요#
MP #mpCon 소비, #time초 간 공격력 #x%의 분신 소환

Mirror Image
Summon a mirror of yourself. They don't have any specific HP, but support attack. However, there are limits on certain skills.
After lvl 11 : Require mastery book
use MP #mpCon, Summon a mirror image with #x% damage for #time seconds

It's like shadow partner with no waste of Summoning stone Smile


[1.2.328] Battlemages get their spotlight - LiquidSwing - 2010-07-16

Hey Zacairga and Kalovale, take it easy. Wink

Buffs all around, woo Heart


[1.2.328] Battlemages get their spotlight - Zacairga - 2010-07-16

Kalovale Wrote:So you're suggesting we should either make it easier for you while placing more burden on the shoulders of a person giving a free service, or shut down all together? If we have a poll for this, I'm afraid I can't choose either.
If, say, a treasure hunter wants to read an ancient transcript yet doesn't understand what it says, that isn't anyone's problems. They either put effort into understanding it, or leave it to rot. While you do have an alternative here, I'd have to say that burdening other people for your own pleasure, when it's offered for free to begin with, is rather distasteful.
Yes, we don't give a flying Pineapple whether or not you care to try and understand what Fiel posts. We do, however, have a problem with the extrations stop coming out. In a time of hardship, you struggle to adapt to it, not pressure others to make it easy for you. That's just my personal codes, anyway.

I never said anything of the sort. Stop being ignorant. I just said I'll come back later when it's easier to read. Why do you have such a problem with that? Are you really such a tight ass little prick that every little thing that doesn't stroke your plantain makes you angry? That's a pretty fucked up philosophy. Why don't you get some help? It's considerably harder to read this way so I'm just not going to do it. I'm not pressuring anyone to do pomegranate.


[1.2.328] Battlemages get their spotlight - Kalovale - 2010-07-16

Then don't. I don't see how this is not pressuring:
Quote:Notice the thread is far less active than they usually are? It's because it's harder to understand. Fiel can take his break from decrypting, it doesn't particularly bother me. Hell, he can stop if he wants to and I wouldn't mind too much.

"Hey dude I'm not complaining but if you let the extractions suck this much you're bound to lose viewers lulz."
Here's an idea, if you aren't going to read it, just don't? Everyone knows the variables are incomprehensible to the point of brain farting. I don't have a problem with stating the obvious, regardless.

And no, I was not picking a fight in the first post, just pointing out 2 things:
- I appreciate Fiel letting us help; and
- There is no harm in doing it this way.

I do, however, have a problem with your second post, and I addressed my issues, fairly clearly I might add.

Why I'm PMSing, you ask?
Quote:Hell, he can stop if he wants to and I wouldn't mind too much.
No, go away.


[1.2.328] Battlemages get their spotlight - SwordStaker - 2010-07-16

Pink Bean was deveated in El Nindo in KMS


[1.2.328] Battlemages get their spotlight - Zacairga - 2010-07-16

Kalovale Wrote:Then don't. I don't see how this is not pressuring:


"Hey dude I'm not complaining but if you let the extractions suck this much you're bound to lose viewers lulz."
Here's an idea, if you aren't going to read it, just don't? Everyone knows the variables are incomprehensible to the point of brain farting. I don't have a problem with stating the obvious, regardless.

And no, I was not picking a fight in the first post, just pointing out 2 things:
- I appreciate Fiel letting us help; and
- There is no harm in doing it this way.

I do, however, have a problem with your second post, and I addressed my issues, fairly clearly I might add.

What was the point in starting pomegranate if you didn't have a problem with my first post? You asked the question, and I responded. It's your own fuckin fault if what you got back wasn't what you wanted to hear.


[1.2.328] Battlemages get their spotlight - Hanabira.Kage - 2010-07-16

Zacairga Wrote:What was the point in starting pomegranate if you didn't have a problem with my first post? You asked the question, and I responded. It's your own pineapplein fault if what you got back wasn't what you wanted to hear.

Stop it, both of you. Kalovale, I'm sure almost everyone here respects Fiel as much as you do. Zacairga, perhaps you should have worded your first post better to avoid offending people who hold Fiel in high esteem. In my opinion, both of you are in the wrong for flaring up and sort-of-flaming each other.

I think I should take this time to remind you guys about this: http://www.southperry.net/showthread.php?t=28449



[1.2.328] Battlemages get their spotlight - Kalovale - 2010-07-16

Zacairga Wrote:What was the point in starting pomegranate if you didn't have a problem with my first post? You asked the question, and I responded. It's your own pineapplein fault if what you got back wasn't what you wanted to hear.

OOOooooh, I get it. The second post was an answer? Oh my dear. Pardon me, I wasn't quite asking pomegranate.

Kay, I know the correct course of action to take.


[1.2.328] Battlemages get their spotlight - Lugin - 2010-07-16

Turtally Wrote:Are you sure that's not because you're not hitting a monster? 'Cause Charge Blow never took away your charge when you were just hitting air. (Or water in your case)

And where did you hear that? I can personally testify that Charge Blow will (currently) terminate your charge whether you hit something with it or not.


[1.2.328] Battlemages get their spotlight - Scheifen - 2010-07-16

Hanabira.Kage Wrote:
This is my attempt at making sense of the variables, and is what I posted on the Asiasoft forums (giving credit to Fiel for the data and aarparp for the translations, of course). There are still some I can't guess the meaning of though, like asrR and terR. Yes, I guess their meanings. I don't have any IT knowledge. >.>

(Note: I know many of you can't stand my text centering, so the Spoiler shall not be centered. :p)

 Skill Changes...?

p.s. Fiel, you may want to use this to lighten your load a little. Although I might be wrong. x.x

I didn't see anyone else respond, so here i go...

it looks right, but i don't have the time at the moment to dig too far into the battle mage section, so i stopped halfway there... great thanks for the interpretation, and i'll try to help decipher the additional parts once i get some time.


[1.2.328] Battlemages get their spotlight - Kalovale - 2010-07-16

Quote:- Battle Charge (New Skill) - Description: Rotate staff to push away up to 15 enemies. MP -38, 210% damage, hits up to 15 enemies; range (270% Range)

What is this range? Reach or effectiveness range? Unless both use the same range.


[1.2.328] Battlemages get their spotlight - Zacairga - 2010-07-16

Kalovale Wrote:OOOooooh, I get it. The second post was an answer? Oh my dear. Pardon me, I wasn't quite asking pomegranate.

Kay, I know the correct course of action to take.

So now retorical questions can be asked in rage at someone in an inflamatory tone? I see. I wonder, are you a nice person when you're not on PMS?

Edit: Alright Hanibira, I'm done.


[1.2.328] Battlemages get their spotlight - Fiel - 2010-07-16

Wish I would have thought of using this skill tables method about a year ago. I finished 25 jobs in the past two hours - variables only. I might be all done for the next patch. That'd be cool.


[1.2.328] Battlemages get their spotlight - Turtally - 2010-07-16

Lugin Wrote:And where did you hear that? I can personally testify that Charge Blow will (currently) terminate your charge whether you hit something with it or not.
Eh.

It's one of those random "facts" that I know, but can't remember where it came from. I guess my memory served me wrong.


[1.2.328] Battlemages get their spotlight - Kalovale - 2010-07-16

I have a question.

How are physical and magical attacks labeled? As in, are they mutually distinguishable by a variable or something in the data? (supposing not all damage done by a Mage-class is considered Magical)

I ask because of a combination of two things:
- the assumption in this thread; and
- Battlemage (II) - - Spell Mastery - New variable "cr" (40)

Hello new NL?


[1.2.328] Battlemages get their spotlight - shagreen heart - 2010-07-17

i feel like shifter went up because paladins are so fuggin hax now. same with wild instinct and that battle mage skillz.

wild instinct was a nice addition, and nerve gas goin from 30 to 20 is nice since all it does is raise exp, but i still feel like their 4th job is missing... something... something that makes them WILD HUNTERS.


[1.2.328] Battlemages get their spotlight - HybridStigmata - 2010-07-17

숙련된 표창술

means like .. experienced reward skill ..