wobbufet Wrote:but if your early game is weak and your late game is great wouldn't you want to counter your weak spots by playing strong early game champs?

WillDaSnail Wrote:I also added something that you probably missed. Clue: It involves a long-standing joke with Riot and implementation of new content/features.

Berzerk Wrote:Hey, I need a number cruncher dude to halp a bro out. Would it be better to run either pure flat AD/AP runes as opposed to running a mix of flat AD/AP with their respective penetration?

KajitiSouls Wrote:Depends on what champion you're playing, what team composition your pals are running, and who the competition is.

I'm uncertain at this point as to which way is generally better, but I can say that if you're running an assassin/burst champion with a dominant early game, penetration marks would probably be better.

As for formulas, here's damage after mitigation:

Code:

(Full Damage) * (mitigation factor)
Mitigation factor = [100/(100+defense)]
where defense is either Armor or Magic Resistance.

100 Armor = 50% physical damage received
200 Armor = 33.33% physical damage received
300 Armor = 25% physical damage received
etc.

Effective HP = HP/(mitigation factor)

Assuming 2000 HP:
100 Armor = 4000 EHP
200 Armor = 6000 EHP
300 Armor = 8000 EHP
etc.

At first, it looks like there's diminishing returns, but if you calculate it in another way -- effective HP -- you'll see that every single point of defense is worth the same. The concept of EHP is that instead of calculating how much damage a champion can take in mitigated form, you can instead calculate how many attacks it takes to kill that champion by just adding up the damage being dealt, rather than received.

Realistically speaking though, the first 50-100 points of defense is worth more however, since without those defense stats, you're well within the range of getting bursted down by a gang of champions and not being able to do a single thing about it if they get the jump on you. Hell, 5 champions unloading everything on a champion with 200 defense and 2.5k HP is still likely to kill, although then his teammates can just retaliate with impunity. Being alive and being dead are two very different things.

True Damage always does full value, and can never be mitigated or increased (although shields absorbing damage and Kayle's R is a different matter).

Dark Link Wrote:Long-standing? You sure you're talking about Riot here? Blizz has been using Soon™ for years and they even copyrighted the term.

Dark Link Wrote:Long-standing? You sure you're talking about Riot here? Blizz has been using Soon™ for years and they even copyrighted the term.

lorx Wrote:Doesn't mean Riot can't jump aboard the train. They established their part in Soon™ on release with spectator mode and replays. The latter of which has still yet to see an official release.

lorx Wrote:Doesn't mean Riot can't jump aboard the train. They established their part in Soon™ on release with spectator mode and replays. The latter of which has still yet to see an official release.

WillDaSnail Wrote:[NOPARSE]I don't play WoW though! (I was not aware they actually copyrighted "soon" for whatever reason they had :f6[/NOPARSE]

Quote:Soon™: Copyright 2004-2012 Blizzard Entertainment, Inc. All rights reserved. "Soon" does not imply any particular date, time, decade, century, or millennia in the past, present, and certainly not the future. "Soon" shall make no contract or warranty between Blizzard Entertainment and the end user. "Soon" will arrive some day, Blizzard does guarantee that "soon" will be here before the end of time. Maybe. Do not make plans based on "soon" as Blizzard will not be liable for any misuse, use, or even casual glancing at "soon."

raizoo Wrote:zzz in dire need of upgrading my PC.Hate the range on his Death Ray so hard. His skills seem really fun though.

I'm interested in seeing how he is in good team.Because if I don't beat the crap out of her, she won't want to come back to kick my ass. We both hate to lose. ;P

She's telling me in other RTS games she's played that she's someone who's super weak early game but is then damn near impossible to kill late game. Friends that know this exploit it and ZERGLING RUSH her. So since I don't know LoL as well as you guys, any help? xd

PS ― She loves Cho.

Dark Link Wrote:I've posted this a few times, why you no read.

Dark Link Wrote:I've posted this a few times, why you no read
http://www.wowpedia.org/Soon



Also, Blizzard's official definition of "Soon" is rather lulzy.

Berzerk Wrote:On a side note, I <3 ranked. I keep getting people that actually want to win, and aren't total asshats. I'm currently sitting at 1345 ELO, which isn't bad, right? I'm only 5 wins in and 2 losses, but I'm happy. I need to play 10 games total to get the rank to show in my summoner profile, right?

raizoo Wrote:It seems that she likes tanky characters ― she loves Cho and Maokai so far, but she said Janna wasn't that bad.

Also, trolling her again. Played Zilean and went 21/0/14. Bombs kept KSing her. (/ω＼

FenixR Wrote:Try Leona, most bullshit tank in the game with high amounts of CC coming from nowhere >.>

Rayquaza2233 Wrote:now featuring 85% less damage. Don't play tanks and supports until you're level 30 because before that there's no guarantee of skill. There isn't at 30 either but there's still more skill present at level 30 than before that.