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People being hacked since the last Server Check. - Malthe - 2012-02-17
SaptaZapta Wrote:Using Hotspot shield suspends your account for "suspicious activity". You need to respond to an e-mail to reactivate it. So, presumably, the hackers can't get into your account either (unless they break into your e-mail too).
Aha, i was confused since i thought he meant hotspot shield somehow actually directly protected your account.
People being hacked since the last Server Check. - Kirov - 2012-02-17
Zelkova Wrote:I came upon an email account for my friends long since banned account (We are talking years ago). This account had recently gotten a message from nexon stating that "suspicious activity blahblah". << How in the pineapple are hackers getting information for an account that has been banned/not in use for YEARS?
Well if they are just systematically going through packets as suggested, then any old account could come up i guess.
People being hacked since the last Server Check. - Dark Link - 2012-02-18
SaptaZapta Wrote:Using Hotspot shield suspends your account for "suspicious activity". You need to respond to an e-mail to reactivate it. So, presumably, the hackers can't get into your account either (unless they break into your e-mail too).
If, however, the hackers are somehow circumventing the normal login process (as described above, logging into one account and then somehow pulling up the chars of another), this might not be good enough, either.
Least it's another way to "Fort Knox" your account I guess.
I'll have to check it out later...
People being hacked since the last Server Check. - Pink Bean - 2012-02-18
Well no matter what we do, someone is going to tire out.
I'm really hoping it isn't us and the account breachers..
The way they're targeting accounts keeps the rest of the community ignorant; "why haven't they got into so-and-so? durrrrr KEYLOGGED SHARED ACCOUNT POOR PASSWORD etc" and it frustrates the pomegranate out of me.
People being hacked since the last Server Check. - byakugan - 2012-02-18
Eos Wrote:The blatant admission of having packet edited the game?
Well allow me to say, banning him for admiting to have hacked, while not banning other users here who can be recognized as infamous hackers just because they don't openly admit to it seems irrational to me, but go ahead...
People being hacked since the last Server Check. - Yukiko - 2012-02-18
SaptaZapta Wrote:Using Hotspot shield suspends your account for "suspicious activity". You need to respond to an e-mail to reactivate it. So, presumably, the hackers can't get into your account either (unless they break into your e-mail too).
If, however, the hackers are somehow circumventing the normal login process (as described above, logging into one account and then somehow pulling up the chars of another), this might not be good enough, either.
Wondering about the latter comment as well. How would it work if the hacker got onto your account while it's locked for "suspicious activity", banned or even when you were still on it? All of those checks seem to happen at the initial login screen. *hopes that Nexon has additional authentication thoroughout the login process*
People being hacked since the last Server Check. - MissingLink - 2012-02-18
byakugan Wrote:Well allow me to say, banning him for admiting to have hacked, while not banning other users here who can be recognized as infamous hackers just because they don't openly admit to it seems irrational to me, but go ahead...
I agree.
It was downright mean and stupid to ban him for trying to help the community against the account hackers.
Meanwhile the actual account hackers may be reading this thread and lolling merrily.
Go ahead and ban me for saying this if you want, because frankly, if this kind of indiscriminate, thoughtless moderating is the new norm, I want no more to do with this site.
People being hacked since the last Server Check. - Justin - 2012-02-19
MissingLink Wrote:I agree.
It was downright mean and stupid to ban him for trying to help the community against the account hackers.
Meanwhile the actual account hackers may be reading this thread and lolling merrily.
Go ahead and ban me for saying this if you want, because frankly, if this kind of indiscriminate, thoughtless moderating is the new norm, I want no more to do with this site.
Except for the fact he wasn't helping anyone with anything? The moderator team isn't here to play babysitter and inspect every single user as to their being legitimate or not. If you admit to hacking, you're gone. Get over it.
People being hacked since the last Server Check. - Eos - 2012-02-19
Justin Wrote:Except for the fact he wasn't helping anyone with anything?
I know I would certainly be interested in knowing how spreading fear and panic with no means to protect yourself from what at best might be an opening but couldn't actually be used in the example given qualifies as "help" any more than standing up and screaming "FIRE! FIRE! THE BATHROOM MIGHT BE ON FIRE" in a crowded theater.
That's the problem with invoking the robin hood defense; You need an awful lot of proof what you did was righer than it was wrong. I'd have hanged the real Robin Hood. Popular Support is not Right.
People being hacked since the last Server Check. - MissingLink - 2012-02-19
Eos Wrote:I know I would certainly be interested in knowing how spreading fear and panic with no means to protect yourself from what at best might be an opening but couldn't actually be used in the example given qualifies as "help" any more than standing up and screaming "FIRE! FIRE! THE BATHROOM MIGHT BE ON FIRE" in a crowded theater.
That's the problem with invoking the robin hood defense; You need an awful lot of proof what you did was righer than it was wrong. I'd have hanged the real Robin Hood. Popular Support is not Right.
So I take it that you think the video showing the account hack method was somehow faked?
Or did you even bother looking for it before declaring it as FUD?
I'm sure you would be capable of testing it out if there was any doubt. Just don't say so or you would have to ban yourself.
If it is real, then exposing the method as much as possible is the only possible way Nexon will notice and perhaps attempt to block the method.
How is that not helping the community?
People being hacked since the last Server Check. - Eos - 2012-02-19
People being hacked since the last Server Check. - Mazz - 2012-02-19
Yukiko Wrote:Wondering about the latter comment as well. How would it work if the hacker got onto your account while it's locked for "suspicious activity", banned or even when you were still on it? All of those checks seem to happen at the initial login screen. *hopes that Nexon has additional authentication thoroughout the login process*
Pretty sure they check again at the channel select screen too, if you're on a banned account and you use the website to log in you get to the channel select screen before getting 'You have been disconnected from the server.', whereas if you use GameLauncher it doesn't let you get past the ID/pass screen.
I was thinking, maybe the method that was shown is how certain accounts are targeted (i.e. look for characters worth looting), and then the hackers are able to retrieve the log in and password since they are technically already connected to the account. Kind of like how when you're in-game and you hover over the level/job/IGN area on the bottom left it tells you your log in ID. Seems like it'd work, but that wouldn't be able to explain how they bypass the PIC system (or even get the login details).
Also RE: Blades4hire, he's on a mult account called Revamp now anyway.
This whole situation sucks.
People being hacked since the last Server Check. - MisterA - 2012-02-19
Everytime I click Basil, I see 5 Threads daily about getting hacked. Everyone says its a Keylogger which obviously is not.
There is a Database Leak going on right now and we cant do anything about it.
Atleast Nexon will lose Customers !
People being hacked since the last Server Check. - Kalemora - 2012-03-04
Brother just got hacked last night. They took anything he had of worth besides his Evolving Ring IIIs. Dunno whether he got keylogged or what. :/
People being hacked since the last Server Check. - Rexy - 2012-03-05
MisterA Wrote:Everytime I click Basil, I see 5 Threads daily about getting hacked. Everyone says its a Keylogger which obviously is not.
There is a Database Leak going on right now and we cant do anything about it.
Atleast Nexon will lose Customers !
While your thoughts about the data base leak might be true, I don't think that's the problem with so many people getting hacked recently.
The way that a lot of people I know, including myself got hacked is pretty weird. No one knows how or why it happened, since we all take care of our computers well, to avoid any kind of virus. Once you get hit, you're off for good. They somehow have a method of changing your email address, bypassing even Google's 2-step-verification(Don't really know how secure this is, but it's kept me safe for a long time until my mule got hacked the other day
), and changing the email to your account completely, without you knowing about it until you try log onto your account.Sadly, at this point I don't think there's a way to avoid it other than afking on your character. We are all just sitting ducks waiting to get owned
.
People being hacked since the last Server Check. - MisterA - 2012-03-09
a question, can a keylogger get ur pic? Isnt it impossible?
People being hacked since the last Server Check. - Raul - 2012-03-09
MisterA Wrote:a question, can a keylogger get ur pic? Isnt it impossible?
No, it's very possible.
Some keyloggers log the images on your screen, specifically to bypass on-screen keyboards.
Also, PIC's are irrelevant, it's pretty widely known that they're bypassable.
They're irrelevant, as are username and password, if what the late Blades4hire told us was true (link)
People being hacked since the last Server Check. - Zelkova - 2012-03-09
MisterA Wrote:a question, can a keylogger get ur pic? Isnt it impossible?
I believe that is why PIC's and PIN's first came into existence. You could not keylog the input with your average keylogger. However, I am not saying that there might not be a program that was written specifically to capture such data.
People being hacked since the last Server Check. - MisterA - 2012-03-09
im really curios how these farmers hacks accounts without keylogger... I talked with someone , he was saying its his job he have no time
Database leak is the most plausible
But we are not safe
People being hacked since the last Server Check. - Raul - 2012-03-09
MisterA Wrote:im really curios how these farmers hacks accounts without keylogger... I talked with someone , he was saying its his job he have no time
Database leak is the most plausible
But we are not safe
Raul Wrote:No, it's very possible.
Some keyloggers log the images on your screen, specifically to bypass on-screen keyboards.
Also, PIC's are irrelevant, it's pretty widely known that they're bypassable.
They're irrelevant, as are username and password, if what the late Blades4hire told us was true (link)
Raul Wrote:They're irrelevant, as are username and password, if what the late Blades4hire told us was true (link)
Raul Wrote:if what the late Blades4hire told us was true (link)
Raul Wrote:(link)
Raul Wrote:link