IllegallySane Wrote:Right now I'm only 123, am I have a bad feeling I'm doing Skelegons wrong. In the mini-dungeon I was only clocking ~9-10%/hour. I think it had to do with me trying to find out how to integrate Dragon Strike and Barrage into my attack rotation.

-Single/double target is obvious: Double Upper/BSB + Barrage -> repeat

The various ways I would round up the mobs of Skelegons were as followed:

1. CSB to start gathering, then: Dragon Strike -> BSB -> Barrage hopefully a stunned mob -> (turn if needed) Dragon Strike before stun wears off on others -> (repeat from BSB again)
2. CSB to start gathering, then: Dragon Strike -> (BSB when needed to bring together) -> SSK -> SSK -> repeat
3. CSB -> Dragon Strike -> Barrage -> repeat (found out it is a fail way to kill. Way to slow)

When charged (BSB when needed to bring together):
1. CSB + jump forward Energy Blast to start gathering, then: Dragon Strike -> Energy Blast -> SSK -> repeat
2. CSB + jump forward Energy Blast to start gathering, then: Dragon Strike -> Energy Blast -> Energy Drain -> repeat
3. CSB + jump forward Energy Blast to start gathering, then: Energy Blast -> SSK -> repeat (this is my old method of killing off mobs)

If only 2-3 mobs are alive when in Energy Charge state:
1. CSB + Energy Blast to start gathering, then: Energy Blast -> Energy Drain -> repeat

I dunno. I'm not sure if it's because 12x-13x is technically the 4th job hell levels because my killing speed has only slightly went up, or there's something I'm not doing right to maximize my DPS. Right now Dragon Strike is level 10 so it's 410% to 4 targets now. Barrage is obviously level 1 at 94% x 10, and Speed Infusion is just level 1.

Can the Skele platform rotation be a problem? My method of cycling the map counter-clockwise is:

1. 1st platform
2. 2nd platform
3. 3rd platform
4. 4th platform
5. 2nd platform
6. 1st platform
7. Repeat

Xephia Wrote:Are you on 1x or 2x to gain 10% an hour

If you're on 2x, you're probably doing bad there because it's too early for you. Even I gain 12% an hour and I'm level 131 (at Newties), still not ready for skelegons. If you want to skelegon, you'll probably need more points in Dragon Strike. I suggest you train at Himes for the time being.

I went Barrage first and trained at Newties with my friend. Newties solo gives me about 12% an hour, and it's great since I barely use any pots. (CSB, DU, and Barrage combos keep my HP high, while MP recovery takes care of my MP. Drain revives that lost HP).

I'm not even going to dare soloing Skelegons until I get more points in DS, which I'm working on now. The only thing that worries me is out non-KMST DS will make me use a lot more pots than at Newties, which will make me wonder if it's worth it. With the new dungeon, probably.

As for your previous post, I'm about 90% sure that the Barrage you saw was in a Private Server or early KMST patch. Personally I like how it works now since I have a 0% chance of wasting time hitting nothing. The DS I'm not so sure about, either an early patch or some trick that I can't seem to manage.

GunisBack Wrote:Ok well I'm a level 59 slinger at the moment and I'm kinda stuck on training.

Is it really worth me risking 10% by going past elder wraiths just to get to windraiders in lower ascent or should I not even bother? If I shouldn't bother where should I be? I've been at c-2 for a while and was wondering if its still the best place. I'm in Scania so its a pretty crowded server and last time I tried mp3 I got kicked out by higher levels after a couple minutes. Any suggestions are welcome. Thanks.

aDudeInRed Wrote:I'm making a dexless buccaneer. Right now its level 31 brawler and I was wondering if Buccaneers will have enough acc naturally (from passive and active skills) or do I have to worry about that?

I've made a dexless warrior before and I remember I had to watch the accuracy requirements and such. Would I have to do the same or am I safe to pump str into my equips?

DrRusty Wrote:as long as you have enough dex to wear your end game weapon + zak helm, you can pretty much hit anything. The 20 base dex + extra accuracy from bullet time give us naturally more accuracy than a warrior.

Kurtle Wrote:I don't know if this has been posted yet, simply due to the massive thread this has become, but I was wondering whether it was necessary for gunslingers to blood for a couple levels in order to live at bosses, zakum, pap, horntail. Also, what is the recommended amount of strength i should cap at, I was planning to cap at 80, but i was wondering if that was too high.

madanthony Wrote:Adding to HP is a "to taste" kind of thing, unless you consider HTing at a reasonable level a necessity. I put about 20 points in HP, some of which isn't washed yet, in order to HH a bit early. I don't plan to add much more. 3.3k at lvl102 is fine by me.

Where you cap your strength is determined by what you can afford, and what you want your endgame weapon to be. Assuming you're stopping at a Concerto, it would be pretty cheap to stop around 60 str, with a decent strength cape plus a strength OA/top in addition to a Zak helm and Dep star/MoN.

Kurtle Wrote:Well, I would prefer to have more HP, however, I don't have the nx to be able to afford multiple AP resets to HP wash to gain it back, if i were to do this i could probably end up somewhere down the line getting it back, is there a better alternative to using nx to regain the points. Also, I am going to scroll a str cape, I have a dep star, getting a zhelm(possible of +30 from those), along with the additional str from pirate overalls, i cant seem to find a way to get an additional 3-5 strength, ayn suggestions?

ndynslvr Wrote:Does anyone know where I can find a good control vid for pre-4th job gunslinger, mostly using skills like dash, float, recoil shot and the like? Preferably where the slinger is not training in an area where they snipe.

Kurtle Wrote:kk thanks a lot for your help, overall strength scrolls arent to bad here and buying 2 wont set me back much, and yes i prefer to have more hp simply because i suck at potting and die constantly(2 times a day at least)

Fiel Wrote:Just want to get a recommendation what I should get for equips from here on out. I'm a level 41 regular STR Gunslinger.

Stuff I've got covered:
- Helm - I'm part of a zakking/HT guild. If they aren't zakking I can easily purchase one.
- Gloves - I have 15 ATK SCWG on my warrior to transfer
- Cape - 4 ATK 4 STR PAC on my warrior
- Earrings - 11 DEX earrings on my warrior
- Bullets - I'm changing to Vital bullets at 70. The increase from mighty bullets isn't worth it imo, and Vital bullets are cheaper.

Stuff I don't have covered:
- Gun - Seems the level 50 - 60 guns are non-existant. Right now I have a Lunar Shooter +7. What's recommended from here on out?
- Shoes - Again, no idea. Should I scroll snowshoes?
- Overall - Should I just scroll bathrobes or is there a standard overall all slingers seem to scroll that I don't know about?

Fiel Wrote:Just want to get a recommendation what I should get for equips from here on out. I'm a level 41 regular STR Gunslinger.

Stuff I've got covered:
- Helm - I'm part of a zakking/HT guild. If they aren't zakking I can easily purchase one.
- Gloves - I have 15 ATK SCWG on my warrior to transfer
- Cape - 4 ATK 4 STR PAC on my warrior
- Earrings - 11 DEX earrings on my warrior
- Bullets - I'm changing to Vital bullets at 70. The increase from mighty bullets isn't worth it imo, and Vital bullets are cheaper.

Stuff I don't have covered:
- Gun - Seems the level 50 - 60 guns are non-existant. Right now I have a Lunar Shooter +7. What's recommended from here on out?
- Shoes - Again, no idea. Should I scroll snowshoes?
- Overall - Should I just scroll bathrobes or is there a standard overall all slingers seem to scroll that I don't know about?

modular Wrote:i also use a 10 dex bath robe. speed <3. cheap as hell with a decent damage boost. id say go for either bath robe or a lvl40 one that you can buy from an npc. the lvl40 ones come w/ 3 str. not as useful as 10 speed in my opinion.

Dyxanije Wrote:The level 40 overall comes with 4 strength.