Southperry.net
Original League of Legends (LoL) Thread - Printable Version

+- Southperry.net (https://www.southperry.net)
+-- Forum: Misc MMO's (https://www.southperry.net/forumdisplay.php?fid=7)
+--- Forum: League of Legends (https://www.southperry.net/forumdisplay.php?fid=93)
+--- Thread: Original League of Legends (LoL) Thread (/showthread.php?tid=33481)

Pages: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 211 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 220 221 222 223 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 251 252 253 254 255 256 257 258 259 260 261 262 263 264 265 266 267 268 269 270 271 272 273 274 275 276 277 278 279 280 281 282 283 284 285 286 287 288 289 290 291 292 293 294 295 296 297 298 299 300 301 302 303 304 305 306 307 308 309 310 311 312 313 314 315 316 317 318 319 320 321 322 323 324 325 326 327 328 329 330 331 332 333 334 335 336 337 338 339 340 341 342 343 344 345 346 347 348 349 350 351 352 353 354 355 356 357 358 359 360 361 362 363 364 365 366 367 368 369 370 371 372 373 374 375 376 377 378 379 380 381 382 383 384 385 386 387 388 389 390 391 392 393 394 395 396 397 398 399 400 401 402 403 404 405 406 407 408 409 410 411 412 413 414 415 416 417 418 419 420 421 422 423 424 425 426 427 428 429 430 431 432 433 434 435 436 437 438 439 440 441 442 443 444 445 446 447 448 449 450 451 452 453 454 455 456 457 458 459 460 461 462 463 464 465 466 467 468 469 470 471 472 473 474 475 476 477 478 479 480 481 482 483 484 485 486 487 488 489 490 491 492 493 494 495 496 497 498 499 500 501 502 503 504 505 506 507 508 509 510 511 512 513 514 515 516 517 518 519 520 521 522 523 524 525 526 527 528 529 530 531 532 533 534 535 536 537 538 539 540 541 542 543 544 545 546 547 548 549 550 551 552 553 554 555 556 557 558 559 560 561 562 563 564 565 566 567 568 569 570 571 572 573 574 575 576 577 578 579 580 581 582 583 584 585 586 587 588 589 590 591 592 593 594 595 596 597 598 599 600 601 602 603 604 605 606 607 608 609 610 611 612 613 614 615 616 617 618 619 620 621 622 623 624 625 626 627 628 629 630 631 632 633 634 635 636 637 638 639 640 641 642 643 644 645 646 647 648 649 650 651 652 653 654 655 656 657 658 659 660 661 662 663 664 665 666 667 668 669 670 671 672 673 674 675 676 677 678 679 680 681 682 683 684 685 686 687 688 689 690 691 692 693 694 695 696

Original League of Legends (LoL) Thread - SolicShooter - 2011-11-21

Corn Wrote:For playing support: also try to take control of the bush and outzone your opponent. Easily done with Soraka.



C'mon dude, I'm not as stupid as Kajtii thinks I am Rolleyes.

You're way better off by picking Lee sin, Wu Kong, Tryandmere or Nocturne and then tanky because Leona just kinda... sucks. She's UP for a reason you know.

Original League of Legends (LoL) Thread - FenixR - 2011-11-21

I Can totally see Leesin being a better tank than leona tbh.

Decided to pick between lee sin and brand.

Original League of Legends (LoL) Thread - Dark Link - 2011-11-21

KajitiSouls Wrote:EDIT: lol Rageblade eventually gives Sion negative AS and AP.

lol? How does this occur? Does having it at max stacks break him?

Original League of Legends (LoL) Thread - Connor - 2011-11-21

Decided to buy Kennen. Lots of fun and he's a terror in lane. His mobility is nice but I feel energy starved sometimes...quite a difference from Akali who doesn't run into energy issues usually. At least he doesn't bleed energy like Shen though.

Going for Vayne or Xerath as my next purchase. Ugh so much IP.

Original League of Legends (LoL) Thread - shouri - 2011-11-21

Connor Wrote:Decided to buy Kennen. Lots of fun and he's a terror in lane. His mobility is nice but I feel energy starved sometimes...quite a difference from Akali who doesn't run into energy issues usually. At least he doesn't bleed energy like Shen though.

Going for Vayne or Xerath as my next purchase. Ugh so much IP.

I think I'll need at least a total of 5 more rune pages to have enough general sets (I still only have 2).

`-` <--MFW they're 6k IP each >>

Original League of Legends (LoL) Thread - KajitiSouls - 2011-11-21

Dark Link Wrote:lol? How does this occur? Does having it at max stacks break him?

I don't know. Somewhere in the code, Sion's auto-attack for HP dealio procs stuff twice, which makes it highly suspect. It's been doing that for a while too.

Original League of Legends (LoL) Thread - shouri - 2011-11-21

So jungle amumu:

cloth +5 pots
Cleared at around 3:50 (i think), gank if able (which is almost always), otherwise B.

What build?

I usually go with t1 shoes and any building blocks for philo stone that I can.

End up with:

3speed or 5 speed shoes
Frozen Heart
Eleisa's Miracle
BV or FoN as deemed necessary
Aegis (I usually finish this or the FH first after shoes/philo stone)
Guardian Angel

((if one of these isn't needed... maybe the aegis... I get a Rylais))

Sometimes I trade one of the items for a Zhonya's for the AP and for letting me get in another stun in the case I get caught.

Thoughts on the build?

Should I just never grab zhonya's? Does the extra 1% damage not make enough difference (no 1% bonus if I don't get zhonya's)?

Any thoughts on bloodrazor just to add moar %damage when you land bandage toss and start auto attacking to proc the passive?

((even if it's a terrible idea I plan on trying it out once or twice for the lols))

Original League of Legends (LoL) Thread - Duelman - 2011-11-21

KajitiSouls Wrote:I don't know. Somewhere in the code, Sion's auto-attack for HP dealio procs stuff twice, which makes it highly suspect. It's been doing that for a while too.

From what I understand it had something to do with the stacks on rageblade and using surge while it is stacked. At least that's what the original complaint had said in the GD forums after fizz patch.

Original League of Legends (LoL) Thread - SolicShooter - 2011-11-21

shouri Wrote:So jungle amumu:

cloth +5 pots
Cleared at around 3:50 (i think), gank if able (which is almost always), otherwise B.

What build?

I usually go with t1 shoes and any building blocks for philo stone that I can.

End up with:

3speed or 5 speed shoes
Frozen Heart
Eleisa's Miracle
BV or FoN as deemed necessary
Aegis (I usually finish this or the FH first after shoes/philo stone)
Guardian Angel

((if one of these isn't needed... maybe the aegis... I get a Rylais))

Sometimes I trade one of the items for a Zhonya's for the AP and for letting me get in another stun in the case I get caught.

Thoughts on the build?

Should I just never grab zhonya's? Does the extra 1% damage not make enough difference (no 1% bonus if I don't get zhonya's)?

Any thoughts on bloodrazor just to add moar %damage when you land bandage toss and start auto attacking to proc the passive?

((even if it's a terrible idea I plan on trying it out once or twice for the lols))

I usually start with a regrowth pendant and a health pot, clear blue wolves wraiths and golems, go b and grab a philo and optional ward/pots to get the gold flowing rather quickly, clear red and then look for ganks/counterjungling. Going for heart of gold and mercs as core. Then I check team composition and build armour/magic resistance/hp accordingly. Usually through a banshees veil, randuins omen, sunfire cape, guardians angel or frozen heart depending on the situation. I don't really ever buy ap items because he's more useful as pure tank in my opinion. He can still be scary enough when he latches on a squishy and is focused sometimes in that aspect. I guess your build works where you get the tenacity from your philo and build other boots instead. But mobility boots are just plain useless in teamfights and boots of swiftness makes you lose your tankyness early on, not to mention that upgrading your philo early will lose you potential gold and if you don't upgrade it early you miss that valuable tenacity. Razor isn't a good idea in my opinion because I rely more on spells as amumu I guess and only auto attack to apply red/passive. There are many potential tanky builds that can succeed as amumu though because you're mainly helpful for your ultimate which is virtually unaffected by which tank items you build. I'll try your build though and I'll give you feedback on it.

Original League of Legends (LoL) Thread - Remoir - 2011-11-21

shouri Wrote:So jungle amumu:

cloth +5 pots

I like regrowth + 1 pot to start.

Philo is basically to keep your mana safe when you are without blue in Jungle. There isnt much point in keeping it the entire game. You're better off going Merc Treds or Ninja Tabi since you're the tank. Everything else is situational for the champions in the other team. You can sometimes skip aegis if your support builds it but thats up to you (most people do, and i got yelled at once for building it when our taric had one even though it would stack between us..)

Not really much point in building anything with AP unless you're totally owning all game or you think you really need it (i guess zhonya active would be ok if you were going to flash into a team with loads of burst to ult)

Original League of Legends (LoL) Thread - KajitiSouls - 2011-11-21

Duelman Wrote:From what I understand it had something to do with the stacks on rageblade and using surge while it is stacked. At least that's what the original complaint had said in the GD forums after fizz patch.

Well, you're gonna have to try again. There's an SS of someone with the glitch, but he doesn't have Surge as a summoner spell.


EDIT: http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=1503040&page=4
ricklessabandon Wrote:i haven't read through all the posts yet, but the one that comes to mind is:
anivia's ult can no longer be cancelled as if it were channeled.

Do want. Though imo, this would be a pretty big buff for Anivia.

Original League of Legends (LoL) Thread - Duelman - 2011-11-21

KajitiSouls Wrote:Well, you're gonna have to try again. There's an SS of someone with the glitch, but he doesn't have Surge as a summoner spell.

I was quoting something from the original thread that complained about it as stated in my previous quote. -.-

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=1495250

Original League of Legends (LoL) Thread - KajitiSouls - 2011-11-21

Duelman Wrote:I was quoting something from the original thread that complained about it as stated in my previous quote. -.-

He can be wrong too. Or it could be an easier repro case, but not the only one.

Original League of Legends (LoL) Thread - WillDaSnail - 2011-11-21

shouri Wrote:So jungle amumu:

cloth +5 pots
Cleared at around 3:50 (i think), gank if able (which is almost always), otherwise B.

What build?

I usually go with t1 shoes and any building blocks for philo stone that I can.

End up with:

3speed or 5 speed shoes
Frozen Heart
Eleisa's Miracle
BV or FoN as deemed necessary
Aegis (I usually finish this or the FH first after shoes/philo stone)
Guardian Angel

Coming from someone who frequently uses and abuses Amumu 2798162986192176586823 times in the jungle, there's a few things - notably builds - that would be much better options for the little mummy.

For shoes: If I had the option to say things harshly, I wouldve said "I don't give a **** about shoes other than Merc Treads". But I don't like being a jerk here. My case in point is that as Amumu, you're the tank. You're the point guy who's going to be at the front soaking up damage and God knows how much CC the enemies throw at you. Merc Treads will be the best - if not, optimal - item you'll need.

I see you listing Eliesa's Miracle in your items, but IMO Merc Treads would be the best for him (Tenacity + MR). Eliesa would be a waste of an item slot, and plus you'll have additional MS from the Initiate (Defense) and the Utility mastery anyways. Therefore, no need to get Boots of Swiftness or Boots of Mobility.

Also, BV and FoN are a MUST have on Amumu. If you look at it this way, his base HP (and in some ways or form, his base HP regen) is quite low, so getting HP/defense (Armor, MR) items would increase his survivability by a lot.

Do note that Aegis is best as an early-game or a early mid-game item. If you don't get Aegis during those game phases, its best not to get it because it will not be as effective later on.

Other items to consider: Thornmail (situational), Randuins (good amounts of armor, HP, HP5, and its nice passive/active effect. Plus it builds up from HoG, if you get that item early on and hold it long enough for its GP5 effect), QSS (situational). GA is usually an optional item, and if you do get it, get it the very last.

Also, I see you having other concerns in your post, but since I have class atm, I will get back to you in a few hours regarding those concerns if you're waiting to wait that long.

Original League of Legends (LoL) Thread - shouri - 2011-11-21

Level 13
I survive with 20 HP after a team fight and am running back to our mid tower to B. Enemy Irelia (1000-ish HP) is chasing me down. As she approaches, I run and she follows under the turret taking 3 hits (no enemy minions and she had already used her ult to get me down to 20 hp). I fire bandage toss directly behind me stunning her and killing her with the aid of turret fire :3

Lulz were had. My team rofl'd. Twas a great game. Love you jungle Amumu <3

Original League of Legends (LoL) Thread - Corn - 2011-11-21

Hmph. I discovered that Tristana, Malphite, and Blitzcrank were all fairly fun to play during the weekend.

...too bad none of them are good junglers.

Original League of Legends (LoL) Thread - FenixR - 2011-11-21

Corn Wrote:Hmph. I discovered that Tristana, Malphite, and Blitzcrank were all fairly fun to play during the weekend.

...too bad none of them are good junglers.

Really?

Original League of Legends (LoL) Thread - Aynia - 2011-11-21

FenixR Wrote:Really?

yes

Original League of Legends (LoL) Thread - Corn - 2011-11-21

FenixR Wrote:Really?

Malphite is doable but he's not good. He's decent. Just not good like Nocturne/Lee Sin/what have you.

Original League of Legends (LoL) Thread - WillDaSnail - 2011-11-21

shouri Wrote:Should I just never grab zhonya's? Does the extra 1% damage not make enough difference (no 1% bonus if I don't get zhonya's)?

Any thoughts on bloodrazor just to add moar %damage when you land bandage toss and start auto attacking to proc the passive?

((even if it's a terrible idea I plan on trying it out once or twice for the lols))

Anyways I have some time to answer these questions.

For the love of God, please don't get Bloodrazors. I don't know what you're thinking in the first place, but what Amumu's kit currently offers is enough for his jungling needs. In fact, no offense to you, but I think you're not seeing the bigger of picture of what Amumu can do by himself and what he can offer in a team composition (utility). Spend a bit of time and do a bit of research on Amumu's capabilities (or in other words, explore him inside and out). Look at Amumu jungling videos, guides, everything you can get your hands on about Amumu. Then you'll realize what my point is. And don't tell me that you know everything about Amumu, because there's so much you haven't learn about him yet (and I can proudly admit that I occasionally do learn something about what Amumu can bring to the table even to this day, even though playing him is second nature to me. Constantly updating your knowledge of any champs you play does many wonders)

Second: Zhonyas is OK on Amumu, but I usually don't get it for him if I'm building tanky. I might get it for him if I was building AP on him simply because by building AP, he loses a lot of his survivability, and his active would help out a bit. In other words, Zhonyas is something I will usually not get simply because it doesn't fit into any tank build, unless I'm using it for a specific purpose (building him AP)

Do note that the bonus % damage that Amumu gains on his Despair from AP is rounded down to the closest whole number.

Just for FYI:

100-299 AP --> +1% to Despair
300 AP ------> +2% to Despair

(Haven't crunched numbers past 300 AP, though)