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The Binding of Isaac: Rebirth - Razmos - 2014-11-13

Finally got a good Blue Baby run. I got the Blue Cross item from an angel room pretty much straight away.

Pretty early on I got the "Gnawed Leaf" item which makes you completely invincible if you stand still and don't attack. I thought "Pfft, what a useless item, when would I be standing still long enough?"
Cue amazed wonder when I got the Ludivico Technique and I realized I could just place it on a boss and then go invincible by standing still. I beat the entire chest by just standing still in every room and letting my tear and orbiting familiars do the work for me. Boring, but very very effective.

The Binding of Isaac: Rebirth - Green4Ever - 2014-11-13

Oh man, I just had my most amazing run thus far.

 Spoiler

Yes, those are giant Poison Scythes that split (Parasite) and then deal splash damage (Cricket's Body), along with full Guppy to make it even more ridiculous. I was a little disappointed that I wasn't able to make them even larger, though. I wasn't able to get the shop to cough up a Sharp Plug and The Chest didn't have any red poop or fire rooms for me to damage myself in, so my plan to use 99 bombs + Pyromaniac (bombs heal you rather than doing damage) + Habit for infinite rerolls didn't really work out.

The Binding of Isaac: Rebirth - Razmos - 2014-11-25

According to the official tumblr, the expansion will include a new game mode that will "almost double the amount of things you can do".
The expansion will also include new enemies, bosses, areas, endings, a new playable character and a ton of new items.

They are also accepting ideas for new items here

The Binding of Isaac: Rebirth - Green4Ever - 2014-11-25

I'm a little surprised that they're already starting in on an expansion. It took over 2 years before Wrath of the Lamb came out, but then again their expectations probably weren't as high for the original as they are for Rebirth. I really like that they're accepting item ideas too; I wonder how many will actually make it into the game.

The Binding of Isaac: Rebirth - Polantaris - 2014-11-25

Razmos Wrote:Finally got a good Blue Baby run. I got the Blue Cross item from an angel room pretty much straight away.

Pretty early on I got the "Gnawed Leaf" item which makes you completely invincible if you stand still and don't attack. I thought "Pfft, what a useless item, when would I be standing still long enough?"
Cue amazed wonder when I got the Ludivico Technique and I realized I could just place it on a boss and then go invincible by standing still. I beat the entire chest by just standing still in every room and letting my tear and orbiting familiars do the work for me. Boring, but very very effective.

I did a similar thing against Mega Satan. Had Bandage Girl. Let her slaughter the hands and the summons. It was great. Made the whole fight easy. Then whenever there was a barrage of shots I just sat there until it all passed.

Green4Ever Wrote:I'm a little surprised that they're already starting in on an expansion. It took over 2 years before Wrath of the Lamb came out, but then again their expectations probably weren't as high for the original as they are for Rebirth. I really like that they're accepting item ideas too; I wonder how many will actually make it into the game.

Ed also mentioned that a lot of the WotL and even original version difficulties were due to Flash. Something like 75% of compile attempts crashed the compiler in the late stages, and the ones that were successful were often corrupted instead. That's why the game just stopped updating and stopped changing. Flash was a huge limitation on the entire game that no longer exists.

The Binding of Isaac: Rebirth - Razmos - 2014-11-25

I rage-quitted this morning. I tried to unlock The Lost for the first time and did the first 3 steps pretty easily, and I started my run as Azazel pretty well and I had high hopes for the run.

Then the game froze and crashed when I went through a door. It was the first and only time the game has ever fucked up on me in 100 hours of playing and it did it during the one run where it mattered the most. Eugh.

Also I completed all the challenges except Purist.

Also holy pomegranate Blank Card and Chaos Card is a completely OP combo.

The Binding of Isaac: Rebirth - Green4Ever - 2014-11-25

Polantaris Wrote:Ed also mentioned that a lot of the WotL and even original version difficulties were due to Flash. Something like 75% of compile attempts crashed the compiler in the late stages, and the ones that were successful were often corrupted instead. That's why the game just stopped updating and stopped changing. Flash was a huge limitation on the entire game that no longer exists.

Yeah, I was aware of that. That's why I called Flash craptastic back on page 3, lol. Flash was just terrible all around.

The Binding of Isaac: Rebirth - Polantaris - 2014-11-25

Razmos Wrote:I rage-quitted this morning. I tried to unlock The Lost for the first time and did the first 3 steps pretty easily, and I started my run as Azazel pretty well and I had high hopes for the run.

Then the game froze and crashed when I went through a door. It was the first and only time the game has ever fucked up on me in 100 hours of playing and it did it during the one run where it mattered the most. Eugh.

Also I completed all the challenges except Purist.

Also holy pomegranate Blank Card and Chaos Card is a completely OP combo.

You lost your save? Doesn't the game autosave?

The Binding of Isaac: Rebirth - Razmos - 2014-11-25

Polantaris Wrote:You lost your save? Doesn't the game autosave?
...I rage quitted so hard that I didn't even bother to check. turns out it did save. I read that closing the game ruins the run so that was what had me worried.

Managed to "finish" the run though, and I did unlock The Lost on my first try! yay!

Such a shame though, Azazel had max damage, Sacred Heart, a pomegranate ton of health, 99 coins and various powerful items. Feels weird to intentionally sabotage such a run Tongue

The Binding of Isaac: Rebirth - Polantaris - 2014-11-26

Razmos Wrote:...I rage quitted so hard that I didn't even bother to check. turns out it did save. I read that closing the game ruins the run so that was what had me worried.

Managed to "finish" the run though, and I did unlock The Lost on my first try! yay!

Such a shame though, Azazel had max damage, Sacred Heart, a pomegranate ton of health, 99 coins and various powerful items. Feels weird to intentionally sabotage such a run Tongue

Congrats!

I haven't bothered to unlock him yet. I doubt I'd even be able to get to Mom with him.

The Binding of Isaac: Rebirth - Green4Ever - 2014-11-26

Polantaris Wrote:Congrats!

I haven't bothered to unlock him yet. I doubt I'd even be able to get to Mom with him.

The final unlock connected to him is well worth the trouble though, as is the satisfaction you feel when completing a run on him. There are a bunch of items in the game now that make doing a Lost run a lot less difficult than you would think too, such as Holy Mantle, Infamy, Dry Baby, Trinity Shield, Lost Contact, Unicorn Stump, Orbitals, or even the classic Brimstone/Knife. Dead Cat (or any other extra life items for that matter) is a must have too, especially for the later floors. Orbitals do massive touch damage now so you can clear just about every room through the Womb with a single Meat Cube/Bandage Ball or Sacrifical Dagger and Unicorn Stump. Unfortunately, The Lost is the only character that you need to beat Boss Rush, Blue Baby, and The Lamb on Hard Mode with in order to get all his final unlock (all the others only require the Heart in Hard Mode), so that makes playing him even more of a challenge...

The Binding of Isaac: Rebirth - Shidoshi - 2014-11-26

Oh pineapple man, had this item that made me teleport away every other hit I took, so I couldn't kill satan, I'm not that good as to kill him without taking hits.
So I was finally able to win when I was randomly teleported to a Dice #1 room and got all my items shuffled, ended up being a Poop win too because of Ankh.

Edit: Woo, finally managed to beat Cathedral with ???. Had 3 pretty flies, invincibility after every hit from Polaroid, max Tears + Cancer and Money = Power with 99 coins. Everything just melted in front of me while being pushes away by the stream of tears. I was so strong that I managed to clear The Chest with no problems too.

The Binding of Isaac: Rebirth - Razmos - 2014-11-26

Sigh.
Was trying to beat the Dark Room with ??? and I was doing REALLY well and got as far as Satan. I had shielded tears, max damage, sacred heart, common cold and the mitre which increases the chance of blue hearts dropping.

Despite that, I still failed because every single room was giving me red hearts and no blue hearts, and I was fighting a bunch of stupid cheap pomegranate that was chipping hearts away from me (like rooms completely filled with spiders)

I hate ???.

The Binding of Isaac: Rebirth - Polantaris - 2014-12-03

I lost an Eve clear on ??? yesterday because his teleportation always landed ON TOP OF ME. There's literally no way to dodge that, it's total bullpomegranate. Lost like 4 hearts before the fight from the red blob guys who do exactly the same thing with the tunneling. Complete luck (technically the lack thereof) damage really bothers me.

Then didn't get a Chapter 6 clear with no damage because I got a 4x The Adversary room right before the boss. That aiming brimstone is crap. Was literally the only damage I took in the entire floor. Slaughtered The Lamb within five seconds because of BFFs as Guppy at really high damage, so they did so much they killed Mom's Heart before the room even started. So mad I lost the achievement for Chapter 6 because of that bullcrap room.

The Binding of Isaac: Rebirth - Green4Ever - 2014-12-03

Polantaris Wrote:I lost an Eve clear on ??? yesterday because his teleportation always landed ON TOP OF ME. There's literally no way to dodge that, it's total bullpomegranate.

Actually, if you start moving in the opposite direction right when you see that he's about to teleport, he won't teleport on top of you. It took me a while to figure that out, and it's pretty subtle, but it does work.

The Binding of Isaac: Rebirth - Polantaris - 2014-12-10

Patch 1.03 Notes Wrote:Improve Steam Cloud sync
Fix random disconnect for Sony controllers
Fix crash on trinket pool reset
Fix Gemini + BFFS
Fix Technology 2 + Chocolate Milk
Eden's start items are seeded more reliably
Fix collectible spawn position for There's Options and Negative
Fix Holy Mantle continue exploit
Fix seed exploit for challenge runs
Fix hard mode affecting room drops other than hearts
Fix P2 blood donation exploit
Fix P2 anti-gravity
Fix P2 being able to use bombs
Fix Devil Deal exploit with half soul heart
Fix invincible Carrion Queen
Fix Blue Baby restart issue
Fix Haunt not invincible for the first few frames
Fix 60fps interpolation for Cube of Meat 2
Fix picked up item disappearing when exiting during pickup animation
Limit Halo of Flies count to 10
Change Lil' Brimstone deal to 2 hearts
Change Ticking Spider collision damage to half a heart
Change Head of Krampus to 6 charges
Improve Dark Bum mechanics

Happy that the tricket pool crash was fixed. Might do a BASEMENT run for shits and giggles once I unlock everything now.

Not sure what was wrong with Gemini + BFFS, nor what was wrong with Technology 2 + Chocolate Milk (although I never pick up Chocolate Milk so...)

Does anyone know what the Holy Mantle Continue Exploit was?

Hard Mode fix was definitely needed. I haven't touched Hard Mode because you simply get no drops, and it made the game simply unfun when you missed every single Treasure Room due to no keys appearing at all.

The Halo of Flies count apparently deals with shot blocking flies, not blue attack flies, so people say on Reddit (I haven't had a chance to play yet with Guppy or Infestation to test it out). I didn't even know you could get that many shot blocking flies to begin with. If it's a change on attack flies...I don't get it. That's part of the awesomeness of a good Guppy build.

Head of Krampus nerf sucks...but is understandable because it's OP as hell. It pretty much one-shots Mom.

Not sure what "Improved Dark Bum mechanics" even means.

The Binding of Isaac: Rebirth - Razmos - 2014-12-10

Polantaris Wrote:The Halo of Flies count apparently deals with shot blocking flies, not blue attack flies, so people say on Reddit (I haven't had a chance to play yet with Guppy or Infestation to test it out). I didn't even know you could get that many shot blocking flies to begin with. If it's a change on attack flies...I don't get it. That's part of the awesomeness of a good Guppy build.
It's definitely talking about attack flies. You can only have up to 3 pretty fly's orbiting you (well, 3 items orbiting you in total)

So yeah, with the Guppy nerf and Krampus Head nerf, the game just got a bit harder.

The Binding of Isaac: Rebirth - Polantaris - 2014-12-11

Razmos Wrote:It's definitely talking about attack flies. You can only have up to 3 pretty fly's orbiting you (well, 3 items orbiting you in total)

So yeah, with the Guppy nerf and Krampus Head nerf, the game just got a bit harder.

I've had 4 orbitals before....although I don't remember what caused it. Definitely never even close to 10, though.

The Binding of Isaac: Rebirth - Green4Ever - 2014-12-11

Oh, so that's why the Polaroid and the Negative were spawning in different locations. I thought it was just the game being weird. Normally I sign out of Steam when I'm not playing something but lately I've just been leaving it up to idle so I guess Isaac updated while I was out.

Thank God for the trinket fix. Now I can spam the D-20 all I want and not have to worry about crashing the game.
Holy Mantle continue exploit was related to The Lost. If you got hit in a room and didn't want to risk dying, you could back out of the game and you'd start the room over with a new shield. I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of people used this to achieve Real Platinum God...
Holding down the key to keep Chocolate Milk charged paired well with items that didn't involve having to physically shoot tears, such as the tears Sad Bombs shoot out on explosion. I never pick up Technology 2 because it's weak and creates boring runs, but my guess is that holding down the key with Technology 2 and just using the laser to do all the work resulted in insane damage.
The Halo of Flies fix is definitely referring to attack flies. I couldn't really care less for this change. If you're going from room to room with more than 10 flies I'd say you're pretty set on damage anyway.
Gemini + BFF probably made Gemini do tons of damage. I tend to stay away from the Zodiac items since I always mix them up, and most of them aren't anything special anyway. Libra has ruined at least a handful of my runs already.
Eden changes are nice. Some of the starting builds I had on him were just horrendous and almost unplayable.
I hated Hard Mode before. Maybe I'll give it another shot now.

Chocolate Milk is actually pretty good now, btw. I'd say it's almost as good as Poly if you can get a couple tear-ups.

4 Orbitals can only be achieved with Big Fat Fan, otherwise you're limited to 3.

The Binding of Isaac: Rebirth - Polantaris - 2014-12-11

Green4Ever Wrote:Libra has ruined at least a handful of my runs already.

Chocolate Milk is actually pretty good now, btw. I'd say it's almost as good as Poly if you can get a couple tear-ups.

4 Orbitals can only be achieved with Big Fat Fan, otherwise you're limited to 3.

Soy Milk then Libra is the best combo ever. Soy Milk's massive damage reduction is reverted but you keep your tear speed. It's ridiculously OP, but you need to get Libra after you get Soy Milk or it doesn't work.

I never get Chocolate Milk unless I have low tears as it is...so I never grab it. I have more problems getting Ludivico Technique, and I always do terrible with it in the end.

Big Fat Fan explains 4 Orbitals. I still have to get a Guppy run to see how the flies change really affects things.