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v.150 - Rising Heroes: Elite Update Highlights - Green4Ever - 2014-06-19
icephoenix21 Wrote:the rarity of the Superior Pendant
I've been averaging a pendant every 5~10 days, and with the amount of people capable of doing it, I'd say that's high enough.
Honestly, I'd like to see boss drops in general become less common. The fact that people can go in with 8-12x drop and receive everything the boss has to offer is a bit stupid.
I completely agree with the point that there needs to be more middle-ground bosses though. We really need a patch devoted entirely to boss overhauling.
v.150 - Rising Heroes: Elite Update Highlights - Thorr - 2014-06-19
Ok, so it's just fluff at this point. It's probably just poor phrasing by MysteryMask (A consistent issue he has...). He says 'AND we are pushing for "A Better Maple" initiatives such as the debuffing of bosses', which more than likely means that it won't happen anyway. I also fall on the side of leaving bosses as-is, but won't complain if it happens.
v.150 - Rising Heroes: Elite Update Highlights - ShinkuDragon - 2014-06-19
Green4Ever Wrote:I've been averaging a pendant every 5~10 days, and with the amount of people capable of doing it, I'd say that's high enough.
Honestly, I'd like to see boss drops in general become less common. The fact that people can go in with 8-12x drop and receive everything the boss has to offer is a bit stupid.
I completely agree with the point that there needs to be more middle-ground bosses though. We really need a patch devoted entirely to boss overhauling.
yea, the problem isn't the bosses being easy or not, it's that there's just -ONE- best setup that trumps the others by far, so everyone shoots for it, and price of everything else goes down the drain and isn't worth doing.
pink bean, chaos pink bean, hilla, crazy hilla, von leon, crazy von leon, akyrum, crazy akyrum, normal gollux, easy gollux, empress, none of these bosses are worth it anymore except maaybe empress.
and the few bosses that remain are killed by everyone that can with 20x drop rate which also lowers the price hard.
i've said it once and i'll say it again, what maple needs isn't permanents with high drop rates, good gear should have a bad drop rate, being able to duplicate your droprate shouldn't even be possible, and -useful- scrolls should drop more often from bosses, but nexon's so reliant on it's p2w shenanigans i don't think anyone would touch the cash shop if protects and such started dropping significantly
v.150 - Rising Heroes: Elite Update Highlights - Takebacker - 2014-06-20
Thorr Wrote:Ok, so it's just fluff at this point. It's probably just poor phrasing by MysteryMask (A consistent issue he has...). He says 'AND we are pushing for "A Better Maple" initiatives such as the debuffing of bosses', which more than likely means that it won't happen anyway. I also fall on the side of leaving bosses as-is, but won't complain if it happens.
Mysterymask is a female.
v.150 - Rising Heroes: Elite Update Highlights - qtipp - 2014-06-20
I feel as though they should add epic potential scrolls drop from bosses, to me that would actually get people started on crafting cubes because all you would need is 1 tier to rank up to unique and that can actually tighten the gap, since now people go from aiming 4 tiers of potential(rare,epic,unique,legendary) to 3 tiers of potential (epic,unique,legendary). It's too late for them to get rid of drop rate potential now since a lot of people have spent cubes on getting other gear to legendary just so they can switch out so that would definitely bring an uprising to nexon.
They should also get rid of the HT/CHT waiting time for drops and the scrolling system for that (you can only use 1 egg on a pendant) so you can use up all the scrolls on a pendant. It would be great for people who can't afford the reinforced gollux set, and 70 all stats on a necklace isn't too shabby if you're level 160 (and i think we can all agree that the average mapler will have a better time soloing ht/cht, than hard gollux especially with these updates they should be hitting at least solo it within 45 mins), until you scroll your reinforced/superior equips, or until you get a dominator pendant from arkarium. (it drops from him the drop rate is really terrible). They can also turn some bosses into party quests and totally revamp that again, it would bring the feeling back for people that like bossing in groups, they could buff up normal bosses and add in exclusive drops that are different from the normal boss itself for example you can get a czhelm from czak but you can get a czhelm scroll from this pq that can add 3 att 5 all stats to the helm, they should definitely do this would nova equips since the average mapler can't afford the shoes or the belts.
I don't like the way they set up how if you get leaves from monsters you can trade it in for coins, it just makes people do evo/dipq all day and that really sucks, they should've had quests for that (5 coins for each quest lvl 1-100 you can do this 5 times a day, 10 coins for each quest lvl 100-140 you can do this 5 times a day, and 15 coins for each quest you can do this 3 times a day, you can also add in party quests.), or also make the coins drop from bosses again, it will give people a will to do it and have fun instead of just holding a button and have their pet collect drops for 2+ hours.
The last thing I would add, but im not too sure about this is take the alien set from alien pq and make it suited for lvl 220 or take the bosses now and increase their level to 200+, and allow the accuracy system to work the way it was during BB (for every level you're below the monster you miss 2% of your attacks). It would give those people a reason to level, I see a lot of people saying that they don't want to level because it takes too long or too hard or there's not even a reason to because there isn't anything left after level 210 (hopefully 5th job can change this).
v.150 - Rising Heroes: Elite Update Highlights - Haishiro - 2014-06-20
qtipp Wrote:they should've had quests for that ... it will give people a will to do it and have fun instead of just holding a button and have their pet collect drops for 2+ hours.
> Kill 300 monsters or collect 30 of a quest drop
> Repeat
How is that any more fun than farming at Evo/DIPQ (especially considering that you could probably also complete the quests quickly using Evo/DIPQ, depending on your level and how the quest is set up)? Both are equally boring, and farming leaf drops doesn't have a daily limit. Plus, even without substantial drop buffs, I got more leaves each day from farming for ~2 hours than your proposed quests would have given.
Expecting Nexon to make quests that aren't a grind? Pls.
I agree with the intent of your suggestion(s) though, even if I think it's impossible for Nexon to implement it well.
v.150 - Rising Heroes: Elite Update Highlights - Marksman Bryan - 2014-06-20
They really do need to bring back some way to get epic potential scrolls. You can't even trade cube fragments for them anymore, which I find extremely lame.
v.150 - Rising Heroes: Elite Update Highlights - ChosenFruit - 2014-06-20
qtipp Wrote:I feel as though they should add epic potential scrolls drop from bosses, to me that would actually get people started on crafting cubes because all you would need is 1 tier to rank up to unique and that can actually tighten the gap, since now people go from aiming 4 tiers of potential(rare,epic,unique,legendary) to 3 tiers of potential (epic,unique,legendary).
I think that'd be neat, especially since they took out Occult Cubes (Which to me felt like they existed as simple way to get from Rare -> Epic potential and then switch over to one of the better cubes for Unique/Legendary). I'd be okay if they added Epic Potential Scrolls with a failure rate (though, please don't make them cause your item to blow up).
Also, whatever happened to Potential Stamps? Do they drop from anywhere anymore? They were available in the Maple Coin shop, but didn't they used to have versions that dropped from monsters or something? I feel like that didn't last long for some reason.
v.150 - Rising Heroes: Elite Update Highlights - kayeyearekay - 2014-06-20
Thorr Wrote:Ok, so it's just fluff at this point. It's probably just poor phrasing by MysteryMask (A consistent issue he has...). He says 'AND we are pushing for "A Better Maple" initiatives such as the debuffing of bosses', which more than likely means that it won't happen anyway. I also fall on the side of leaving bosses as-is, but won't complain if it happens.
[MENTION=13407]MysteryMask[/MENTION]; syntax is trying to be cute/clever but
i dont complain about people often but as "THEE" nexon representative/spokesperson frontrunner, always being coy or -mysterious- is the opposite of having "better communication between nexon and its players". it is becoming increasingly problematic; as fantastical hype exceeds the actual event/presentation, and in result, becomes disappointing.
v.150 - Rising Heroes: Elite Update Highlights - Jamesie - 2014-06-20
thejman250 Wrote:- I finally get to retrieve my permanent teleport rock. It certainly beats waiting and hoping for them to sell one again.I'm pretty sure Nexon said a while back that permanent hyper rocks weren't going to be a thing ever again.
v.150 - Rising Heroes: Elite Update Highlights - Takebacker - 2014-06-20
Jamesie Wrote:I'm pretty sure Nexon said a while back that permanent hyper rocks weren't going to be a thing ever again.
Girasol*
v.150 - Rising Heroes: Elite Update Highlights - thejman250 - 2014-06-20
Jamesie Wrote:I'm pretty sure Nexon said a while back that permanent hyper rocks weren't going to be a thing ever again.
- Then it's obvious that I wasn't aware of that.
- I did hear some rumors like that however.
v.150 - Rising Heroes: Elite Update Highlights - icephoenix21 - 2014-06-20
thejman250 Wrote:- Then it's obvious that I wasn't aware of that.
Then it's obvious that he was making you aware of that.
v.150 - Rising Heroes: Elite Update Highlights - thejman250 - 2014-06-21
icephoenix21 Wrote:Then it's obvious that he was making you aware of that.
- Obviously. Your point?
- Or did you just quote me without reason?
v.150 - Rising Heroes: Elite Update Highlights - icephoenix21 - 2014-06-21
thejman250 Wrote:- Or did you just quote me without reason?
Obviously.
v.150 - Rising Heroes: Elite Update Highlights - dowie - 2014-06-21
Obvoius derailment is obvious. The hype dying down this quickly?
v.150 - Rising Heroes: Elite Update Highlights - Zerard - 2014-06-21
The thread nearly became another jman thread. Not that this thread was all too thrilling beforehand >w>
v.150 - Rising Heroes: Elite Update Highlights - Kobe - 2014-06-21
Zerard Wrote:The thread nearly became another jman thread. Not that this thread was all too thrilling beforehand >w>
Obviously
v.150 - Rising Heroes: Elite Update Highlights - kayeyearekay - 2014-06-21
perm hyper rock; perm 2nd pendant; and much more recently, sweetwater drop rate
all things that were changed well after release.
in fact, both perms were offered TWICE, not just once.
the 2nd sale ended a week (or two) before kaiser's release QQ
v.150 - Rising Heroes: Elite Update Highlights - thejman250 - 2014-06-21
icephoenix21 Wrote:Obviously.
- So you're just my wasting time? Concession accepted.
- Have a nice day.