KhainiWest Wrote:Yes, specifically America, and this is accurate as they restaffed in February of last year. The final quarter results aren't out until the end of the month, I think.

But essentially Nexon is doing fine, a lot of the losses aren't because of lack of interest, rather the economy just sucks right now.

FinaleVoleur Wrote:Question, if another company took the distributing rights of MapleStory, where would the profit go to? The distributor or Nexon KR? Say Asiasoft, the distributor of MSEA.

KhainiWest Wrote:I'd have to look again at their corporate structure but if I remember, essentially all distributors get local profits and send a % to the headquarters. So if I understand your question right, if asiasoft suddenly bought out/somehow gained publication rights that nexon america had access too, the structure wouldn't change just the title of the companies really.

FinaleVoleur Wrote:One more thing, if Asiasoft's just a distributor(no they didn't gain publication rights) is it illegal if they alter content without consent?

KhainiWest Wrote:If I recall they can't make any changes without some notification from HQ. That's how NA operates, so I'll assume they are under the same guidelines.

Ah I see what you're getting at;

No content in any version is owned by the local distributor. They make a request if the want "unique" content where KMS would then create it. It's not unlikely that they copied and pasted EMS' scrolls with permission to use the data from the HQ.

SaptaZapta Wrote:Without whose consent? Yours?

I'm pretty sure they haven't done anything that NexonKR didn't allow them to do.

FinaleVoleur Wrote:So changing miracle scrolls into 60% scrolls and quest rewards by themselves (without even bothering to alter the quest, if I might add) is against the rules? If that's so, they are in hot soup. Because it's not the first time, mind you. We had a nerfed Justice Shop (no PBC or white scrolls), and there was this huge fiasco during the DB revamp patch, where they accidentally released the pre-nerf Justice shop, then hosting a server maintenance that lasted four hours just to remove them. Is that enough reason for the Law to step in?

FinaleVoleur Wrote:So changing miracle scrolls into 60% scrolls and quest rewards by themselves (without even bothering to alter the quest, if I might add) is against the rules? If that's so, they are in hot soup. Because it's not the first time, mind you. We had a nerfed Justice Shop (no PBC or white scrolls), and there was this huge fiasco during the DB revamp patch, where they accidentally released the pre-nerf Justice shop, then hosting a server maintenance that lasted four hours just to remove them. Is that enough reason for the Law to step in?

FinaleVoleur Wrote:Well, did you look at the picture?

SaptaZapta Wrote:It's a civil matter. They have a contract with Nexon Korea. If Nexon feels AsiaSoft is breaking the contract, they can sue them. As long as they don't, the Law has no interest in the matter.

KhainiWest Wrote:To be quite frank it would have to be legal because they wouldn't have access to the data unless under HQ's discretion. Nexon america has had entire patches copy and pasted from other versions (CMS example).

SaptaZapta Wrote:It's a civil matter. They have a contract with Nexon Korea. If Nexon feels AsiaSoft is breaking the contract, they can sue them. As long as they don't, the Law has no interest in the matter.



I did. How do you know it was done without permission?

KhainiWest Wrote:That was me that said that . No there's nothing, the problem isn't managament it's different economies/rates/what have you. Management of course has a part in it, but they aren't doing anything illegal by any means. Majority if not all content is coded in HQ, there are very few if any examples of localities actually producing their own content. (Save for JMS but that's now where the HQ is located so it's a bad example).

FinaleVoleur Wrote:But translating still had to be done, no?

So nothing the playerbase does can change anything? It's a wonder that people still spend cash on this server. I was told that GMS's players had the impression of our funded players sitting on top of an oil reserve. Well, here's a short video on how much cash the players are willing to fork out for this crap service.
[video=youtube;kWgpZEhqwos]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWgpZEhqwos[/video]
And no there is absolutely no intention of showing-off, or anything.

LiquidSwing Wrote:tbh i think that video only proves how broken the potential system is.

or how well its working, if you look at it from nexon's point of view

FinaleVoleur Wrote:So nothing the playerbase does can change anything?

SaptaZapta Wrote:The only thing the playerbase can do is vote with their wallets.
After GMS suffered a large loss of players and money, much of Nexon America's staff, as well as its corporate attitude, was replaced, by Korea's orders (I think?).
I don't know whether Nexon has that kind of power over AsiaSoft, but they can rescind their Maple license if they don't pay nice profits to NexonKR.

SaptaZapta Wrote:The only thing the playerbase can do is vote with their wallets.
After GMS suffered a large loss of players and money, much of Nexon America's staff, as well as its corporate attitude, was replaced, by Korea's orders (I think?).
I don't know whether Nexon has that kind of power over AsiaSoft, but they can rescind their Maple license if they don't pay nice profits to NexonKR.

SaptaZapta Wrote:The only thing the playerbase can do is vote with their wallets.
After GMS suffered a large loss of players and money, much of Nexon America's staff, as well as its corporate attitude, was replaced, by Korea's orders (I think?).
I don't know whether Nexon has that kind of power over AsiaSoft, but they can rescind their Maple license if they don't pay nice profits to NexonKR.

Curtiss Wrote:They should be able to. Unfortunately, that video above is proof that we have far more dollars than common sense and Asiasoft distributes a lot of MMOs here so those that escape Maple may end up playing one of their games anyway.

As for what I'd want...seconding that vote for clothes dyes. I seriously can't take it when the item I like with the perfect design is the wrong colour.