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Question about hero trend? - kimicatdemon - 2011-08-10

Maybe it will be another successor to Testonen like Evan or something? I would find it odd to only have one successor anyway...


Question about hero trend? - Baklava - 2011-08-10

they're going to do a revamp of aran and evan first before they release any more new ones.


Question about hero trend? - Viaje - 2011-08-10

Raul Wrote:I just realized Testonen doesn't start with a P or an L.
Dammit.
One or the other.
Illusions are part of the mind. Maybe someone who makes other people hallucinate, or can mess with reality?
Well, him theoretically being dead would interfere with that too.
Maybe he actually defeated the Black Mage, but went into hiding.
He's now a barmaid named Pamela, known for brutally walloping any man who dares to grope her.

Back to reality. lol.

I'm kinda curious how well Testonen actually fits into the story. The only mention I've found thus far in the .wz file is:
"I'll have to go quite a while back. Kyrin's father is Testonen, a savior of Victoria who battled the Black Mage when Victoria and Ossyria broke into two separate lands."
"Once Victoria found some peace, he asked me to take care of his newborn kid Kyrin before he left to track the Black Magician once more. That's how she ended up growing up here in Henesys. She was full of courage like her father, and she was also very capable of inventing things. Some of her inventions did end up causing chaos in this town, though. Hahaha..."

This is all said by Athena, but that wouldn't make sense unless we're just seeing her return to help evacuate people in the Aran tutorial.
There is always the chance that the whole Testonen thing just isn't canon anymore. I thought some people mentioned being unable to reach the secret quest that mentioned him.

Gonna check back for the original Pirate release announcement for something...


Question about hero trend? - kimicatdemon - 2011-08-10

Here is a screencap of the whole dialogue. It says all that Viaje mentioned and then some extra stuff in the last cap about testonen:

http://img844.imageshack.us/img844/9862/testonen.png


Question about hero trend? - Blunderr - 2011-08-10

aznbluejay Wrote:Oh. I thought they were gonna pull a 'that's what we WANT you to think' on us and he'd make a big return as a legend. Oh well.

Thinking of P and L names keep bugging me with Greek mythology. Pleione and Laertes? Probably not.

There's no way he's the legend. In Ellin Forest, there's a boy named Lohd who's aspiring to be the next Dark Lord, which means that the Dark Lords have been around since before Victoria Island was founded.

I'd like to think the thief legend is the first Dark Lord. I could see him using a claw, with a secondary system involving psychic stars or something, and be a lot more of a mob controlling class as opposed to KILL EVERYTHING THAT'S IN FRONT OF YOU AND FJ TO THE NEXT MOB style that all the current thieves seem to be based around.


Question about hero trend? - Baklava - 2011-08-10

I think the korean text mentions kyrin's father being killed, which is why she left henesys to hunt the black mage.


Question about hero trend? - BlazinSauce - 2011-08-10

I was thinking that maybe if the theif was tele-kinetic he could have stars floating around him like a sheild and then have them fly out, attack and then return.


Question about hero trend? - kimicatdemon - 2011-08-10

Baklava Wrote:I think the korean text mentions kyrin's father being killed, which is why she left henesys to hunt the black mage.

If we could find the Korean text, that would be completely awesome, because I would love to see this. (Does anyone even know if the Testonen quest line is still around after the Nautilus remodel that came with Cannon shooter?)


Question about hero trend? - octopusprime - 2011-08-10

Guys seriously. I think mercedes is mind... I'm thinking theif is going to get body. I.E. physical feats.


Question about hero trend? - Viaje - 2011-08-10

Baklava Wrote:I think the korean text mentions kyrin's father being killed, which is why she left henesys to hunt the black mage.
Yeah, the screens kimicatdemon posted have the English translation, but all those say is "she overheard what happened to her father."

If the Korean text explicitly says he died, that'd lay that theory to rest.
Then again, he could become the dead Obi-wan to his successor.

octopusprime Wrote:Guys seriously. I think mercedes is mind... I'm thinking theif is going to get body. I.E. physical feats.
*applauds*?

The problem with your thinking is that this entire theory hinges on there being a pattern in the Heroes' emblems:
- Mercedes has what appears to be a humanoid figure on her emblem.
- Aran has what appears to be a heart on his emblem.
- Evan has what appears to represent the soul of a dragon on his emblem.

If a single one of these turns out to be false, the theory falls apart.
If Mercedes has a body on her emblem but she's meant to be 'mind', then the other emblems become equally meaningless.
If the theory falls apart, there's no reason to further speculate on what's what because the pattern has already been broken.

You know, like 'Mercedes' not starting with an unused vowel.


Question about hero trend? - kimicatdemon - 2011-08-10

octopusprime Wrote:Guys seriously. I think mercedes is mind... I'm thinking theif is going to get body. I.E. physical feats.

Well currently this is just speculation, so anyone can think anything. There's no harm in thinking something differently.


Question about hero trend? - Viaje - 2011-08-10

I can't find what I was looking for.

Anyway, didn't Kyrin organize the pirates specifically to hunt the Black Mage?
Wouldn't the be rather pointless if he had already been sealed?


Question about hero trend? - kimicatdemon - 2011-08-10

If I recall correctly, the official comic (GMS produced, back when they humored us with comics made in bannedstory instead of stories.) stated she was looking for the followers of the black mage and not just the black mage himself.


Question about hero trend? - octopusprime - 2011-08-10

Viaje Wrote:The problem with your thinking is that this entire theory hinges on there being a pattern in the Heroes' emblems:
- Mercedes has what appears to be a humanoid figure on her emblem.
- Aran has what appears to be a heart on his emblem.
- Evan has what appears to represent the soul of a dragon on his emblem.

If a single one of these turns out to be false, the theory falls apart.
If Mercedes has a body on her emblem but she's meant to be 'mind', then the other emblems become equally meaningless.
If the theory falls apart, there's no reason to further speculate on what's what because the pattern has already been broken.

Or that emblem is supposed to be 'mind.'

HOLYF'UCKINGS'HIT.jpg This is below par for you viaje.

I won't mention the themes of the characters move sets and back stories fitting better to what i think than the OPs interpretation of the image because i'm not looking to patronize you.


Question about hero trend? - Worthyness - 2011-08-10

inb4Testonen had secret relationship with Athena Rolleyes

Hypothetically, he could have been sealed elsewhere when dark mage went boom, like spellbinding circle in Yugioh. He's probably in the bermuda triangle now in the middle of the sea as a ghost of his former self, doomed to live forever because he cursed himself to never die until the black mage is finally destroyed. You happen to be some ship wrecked adventurer traveling the maple seas and become his apprentice and you inherit the spirit of vengeance from Testonen.

Plus there's no confirmation of a death per se; it could be rumor. Would very much like to have a bare hand character too (maybe make them have specific gloves that have more slots and base watk (and or modify the formula, which would be awesome cause then buccaneers could use bare hand and do awesome damage instead of the crappy 60s and 50s now >:C))


Question about hero trend? - Viaje - 2011-08-10

octopusprime Wrote:Or that emblem is supposed to be 'mind.'

HOLYF'UCKINGS'HIT.jpg This is below par for you viaje.

I won't mention the themes of the characters move sets and back stories fitting better to what i think than the OPs interpretation of the image because i'm not looking to patronize you.
An image of an humanoid figure meant to be 'mind'. Yeah, you're going to have to elaborate.

It's rather sad that you consider my post 'below par' simply because I'm disagreeing with you.
What you said doesn't make any sense.

Go ahead: patronize me.
Before you get a chance, allow me to analyze what you've already said:
octopusprime Wrote:Her attacks are very magical and elemental.
So are Evan's.

octopusprime Wrote:She is at this point sort of the brains amongst the legends.!
Based on what?

Worthyness Wrote:Hypothetically, he could have been sealed elsewhere when dark mage went boom, like spellbinding circle in Yugioh. He's probably in the bermuda triangle now in the middle of the sea as a ghost of his former self, doomed to live forever because he cursed himself to never die until the black mage is finally destroyed. You happen to be some ship wrecked adventurer traveling the maple seas and become his apprentice and you inherit the spirit of vengeance from Testonen.

Plus there's no confirmation of a death per se; it could be rumor. Would very much like to have a bare hand character too (maybe make them have specific gloves that have more slots and base watk (and or modify the formula, which would be awesome cause then buccaneers could use bare hand and do awesome damage instead of the crappy 60s and 50s now >:C))
Either of those could be plausible. I agree with either general outline (though some of the specifics are out there).
He could easily be (a) sealed or (b) dead and able to instruct a successor.
The only thing I find unlikely would be actually controlling him.

The gloves thing is actually a pretty good idea. I hadn't considered that before!
Wouldn't technically be "bare hands", but it would still be weapon-less.


Question about hero trend? - Raul - 2011-08-10

Viaje Wrote:He's now a barmaid named Pamela, known for brutally walloping any man who dares to grope her.

LOL.
Considering making this my signature.


Question about hero trend? - MetaSeraphim - 2011-08-10

I had thought about this once before but never really put enough thought into it to make a thread. I would have to agree that the 5th one would most likely be spirit.

Locked Wrote:Mercedes
Aran
P
L
Evan

S
T
O
R
Y

Would belong to the evil psycho hero legends of course.

Viaje Wrote:Also, going to place a bet on the Pirate Legend being the leader.

A pirate, being a leader? Meaning being useful?

Gahahahahahahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa


Question about hero trend? - kimicatdemon - 2011-08-10

Raul Wrote:I just realized Testonen doesn't start with a P or an L.
Dammit.
One or the other.
Illusions are part of the mind. Maybe someone who makes other people hallucinate, or can mess with reality?

Rereading this after a nap, how much you wanna bet the thief hero is linked to the Black wing's member that made that whole dream future thing some how? Like... it could be a rivalry or something...OR GO BEYOOONND.... I dunno. I just think it would be cool to have two people that can mess with "reality" to make people "hallucinate" into something that isn't there/real.


Question about hero trend? - MetaSeraphim - 2011-08-10

kimicatdemon Wrote:Rereading this after a nap, how much you wanna bet the thief hero is linked to the Black wing's member that made that whole dream future thing some how? Like... it could be a rivalry or something...OR GO BEYOOONND.... I dunno. I just think it would be cool to have two people that can mess with "reality" to make people "hallucinate" into something that isn't there/real.

That sounds like this

Alilatias Wrote:
 Thief Legend: Time Keeper