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Signs of Alien PQ coming back? - Retalion - 2011-07-04
Does anyone know how to get to that cube map without the use of a hyper tele rock (as in...without tele'ing to someone already there?...someone has to have gotten there first)? Cause I don't know anyone who knows.
Maybe Nexon purposely leaked it so we can test it for them before they release it as exclusive content!
Signs of Alien PQ coming back? - Netto - 2011-07-04
Retalion Wrote:Does anyone know how to get to that cube map without the use of a hyper tele rock (as in...without tele'ing to someone already there?...someone has to have gotten there first)? Cause I don't know anyone who knows.
Maybe Nexon purposely leaked it so we can test it for them before they release it as exclusive content!
You can't. Hence "exploit".
Signs of Alien PQ coming back? - Exidous - 2011-07-04
Netto Wrote:You can't. Hence "exploit".That's getting at the part of this that's dirty. There were people who simply never left VPQ after the npcs were removed from towns, so if the rock had come out sooner it was conceivable you could get there legitimately. However, from what I heard those stragglers were all kicked out eventually. That means that if you tele rock to someone at VPQ now, somewhere up the daisy chain, there was almost definitely a hacker. Someone you know, knows someone, who knows someone... who hacked. That bites. But you know what? Somewhere along the line, you bought something someone got from botting. Or hacking. Or duping. Sure, you didn't necessarily know about it, but the way the economy works, you paid less than you otherwise would have even if the particular item you bought wasn't one of those botted or duped. That's the game we play in.
You could never trade with anyone, never party with anyone, never interact with anyone, and never have any chance of benefiting from someone else's ill gotten gains, but is that really the minimum for being legit? Isn't it enough to not perform hacks yourself? To not take part in the most blatant dupings? To do your best to shun those who do the aforementioned?
I'm going to enjoy VPQ. And I refuse to believe it's illegitimate to do so. The opportunity for a player to participate is legitimate, all it takes is to /find someone already there.
I understand the importance of not endorsing glitches or hacks for the site. The act of participating in VPQ is neither when Nexon presents the means of getting there (in the super tele rock).
Oh yeah, one more thing, the "sanctity" of Nexon's game in this case was almost surely violated due to the existence of a sloppily coded super tele rock that they put in to make money off of imbalancing their own game's playing field. The problem is not the people who are going to VPQ over the next few days or more, its the hackers who exploit the bad design choices of Nexon - and therefore Nexon's bad design choices themselves.
Signs of Alien PQ coming back? - street - 2011-07-04
I think they placed the pq back this patch. When they finally kicked people out that were leftover. You think some hackers were not trying to get back to the map?
Signs of Alien PQ coming back? - Satellite - 2011-07-04
When Alien Event ended, the high level PQ was left there, modified version of it. The pq was "removed" in BB, because Nexon had problems converting(or balancing) it to post-BB. Yet people who were left in the entrance map could enter it for a moment (???). Maps were always there since it was removed. Later, they just kicked people off those maps right?
With these hyper telerocks, they apparently forgot to add the pq map to the list of places that you cannot tele to.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
Signs of Alien PQ coming back? - Shidoshi - 2011-07-04
Satellite Wrote:When Alien Event ended, the high level PQ was left there, modified version of it. The pq was "removed" in BB, because Nexon had problems converting(or balancing) it to post-BB. Yet people who were left in the entrance map could enter it for a moment (???). Maps were always there since it was removed. Later, they just kicked people off those maps right?
With these hyper telerocks, they apparently forgot to add the pq map to the list of places that you cannot tele to.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
Yes, but there also needs to be someone on the map first, which is where the exploit comes in.
Signs of Alien PQ coming back? - x3repentance - 2011-07-04
shouri Wrote:I can't WAIT to see someone hyper tele into the GM map. lol :3
That white room with a few NPCs?
Signs of Alien PQ coming back? - Green4Ever - 2011-07-04
Tried doing this on multiple accounts that were around pre-bb when this PQ was in place and had the Time Traveler Medal and was not able to lead on any of them.
wtp?
Ah well, I guess it's for the best. If I were actually able to enter I know I would abuse the pomegranate out of this.
Signs of Alien PQ coming back? - Sarah - 2011-07-04
What the pineapple is wrong with Southperry these days? I just read the first few comments and am pretty disgusted by people who think this is okay. Especially justifications like "I just want..."
I JUST WANT TO GET TO 200 THEN I'LL STOP
I JUST WANT A 3000 ATK WEAPON
Stop fucking abusing exploits. Jesus christ people
Signs of Alien PQ coming back? - Satellite - 2011-07-04
Sarah Wrote:What the pineapple is wrong with Southperry these days? I just read the first few comments and am pretty disgusted by people who think this is okay. Especially justifications like "I just want..."I can see where you come from and I agree with you, but VIP weapons will not be as good as they used to be, due to no more 120+ pot and 130-140 weapons. Unless this exploit gets out of hand, nexon does nothing and we'll start seeing VIP weapons for 1mil each...
I JUST WANT TO GET TO 200 THEN I'LL STOP
I JUST WANT A 3000 ATK WEAPON
Stop pineappleing abusing exploits. Jesus christ people
Signs of Alien PQ coming back? - Rick - 2011-07-04
Sarah Wrote:What the pineapple is wrong with Southperry these days? I just read the first few comments and am pretty disgusted by people who think this is okay. Especially justifications like "I just want..."
I JUST WANT TO GET TO 200 THEN I'LL STOP
I JUST WANT A 3000 ATK WEAPON
Stop pineappleing abusing exploits. Jesus christ people
I used to be like you, but these days it's just so widespread and so bad that I really don't give a damn anymore. Back when I was super-opposed to it there were more who also were, but these days pretty much everyone is doing it and the super-pious are just a ridiculously small minority that get left behind by everyone else. I don't go and abuse everything that comes my way, but it's just not worth the effort to care anymore and no one gives a damn if you follow the rules. Let it go, Sarah.
Signs of Alien PQ coming back? - Sarah - 2011-07-04
Absolutely not. I'll always continue to call out jackwagons for being jackwagons for two reasons (even if it makes me look like a "prude")
The first being that there needs to be a voice of reason. I might not be able to stop people but there always needs to be a nagging voice to remind people that what they're doing is wrong. They're ruining the game, not Nexon. Anyone can argue that the game is already ruined but as long as people continue to abuse exploits NOTHING CAN CHANGE. Nexon can't do anything as long as the masses continue to take advantage of pomegranate like this. The game COULD improve if people didn't pineappleing take advantage of every god damn exploit that comes along like it's nothing. It's like setting a house on fire every time they start to to rebuild.
The second being attached to the last which is that I lose my ability to justly criticize Nexon's wrong-doing when I knowingly do wrong. You can't talk pomegranate about someone kicking you while you're kicking someone else. Nexon does a lot of stupid pomegranate and I like to call them out on it, just like I like to call out the people here who do wrong. I can't do that if I participate. I can't do that "occasionally" if I just shrug it off most of the time.
At this point, though, the user-base is entirely at fault for Maple's degradation. You people are a pineappleing plague.
Signs of Alien PQ coming back? - MissingLink - 2011-07-04
If the PQ seems too easy for those who do manage to get it, that's pretty good evidence that Nexon is not intending on re-releasing it (yet).
Signs of Alien PQ coming back? - Rick - 2011-07-04
There comes a point where acting like this just becomes irrational and annoying. You drive, Sarah. Do you enjoy the member of Greenpeace standing on the street corner telling you your car is destroying the Earth? You eat meat. Do you enjoy PETA telling you you're a murderer? Or do you wish they would just let you carry on with your day?
In this situation, you are Greenpeace. You are PETA. What you do is considered wrong by them, but you continue driving your car with that chicken wing in your hand because you've gotta do what you've gotta do. So do the people that want to make it in this game. You can continue to sit there on your high horse and feel all Mother Superior over a collection of pixels, but let these people live their lives how they wish.
Signs of Alien PQ coming back? - Sarah - 2011-07-04
Rick Wrote:There comes a point where acting like this just becomes irrational and annoying. You drive, Sarah. Do you enjoy the member of Greenpeace standing on the street corner telling you your car is destroying the Earth? You eat meat. Do you enjoy PETA telling you you're a murderer? Or do you wish they would just let you carry on with your day?
In this situation, you are Greenpeace. You are PETA. What you do is considered wrong by them, but you continue driving your car with that chicken wing in your hand because you've gotta do what you've gotta do. So do the people that want to make it in this game. You can continue to sit there on your high horse and feel all Mother Superior over a collection of pixels, but let these people live their lives how they wish.
I'm greenpeace, not PETA. PETA is wrong -- eating meat is natural for omnivores, which humans naturally are. I don't care about greenpeace because they have a point and as a matter of fact I try to walk whenever possible because of pollution (and gas prices). I don't care about either of these groups, though. If they want to protest, all the power to them. I'm a big fan of peaceful protesting.
It's pretty unbelievable to me, though, that you are suggesting that exploiting or hacking the game is the same as driving or eating meat. You said it yourself -- these are a collection of pixels. There's no need to do anything to "make it." In real life we need to eat meat for proteins. We need to drive to get places. We don't ever need to take advantage of a situation that puts anyone else at a disadvantage or causes hardships for the people providing the service.
What you're suggesting is akin to advocating GANG RAPE. She's already being raped so we might as well join in or we won't get any. That's an extreme example but the point is clear--you're doing something out of want and lack of will over necessity and it is at the expense of someone else.
Signs of Alien PQ coming back? - Rick - 2011-07-04
Sarah Wrote:I'm greenpeace, not PETA. PETA is wrong -- eating meat is natural for omnivores, which humans naturally are. I don't care about greenpeace because they have a point and as a matter of fact I try to walk whenever possible because of pollution (and gas prices). I don't care about either of these groups, though. If they want to protest, all the power to them. I'm a big fan of peaceful protesting.
It's pretty unbelievable to me, though, that you are suggesting that exploiting or hacking the game is the same as driving or eating meat. You said it yourself -- these are a collection of pixels. There's no need to do anything to "make it." In real life we need to eat meat for proteins. We need to drive to get places. We don't ever need to take advantage of a situation that puts anyone else at a disadvantage or causes hardships for the people providing the service.
I never said anything about hacking, so let's leave that out of this. Protein is available through nuts and other sources. You can get places through the magic of walking and biking. Yet you still eat meat, and you still drive. Why? Because they're a more convenient way to do things and help make your life easier. But you do it at the detriment of the planet/future generations, and the detriment of the animals. You expect your choices to be respected, which actually carry much higher consequences than entering visitor PQ in an online game, let others be ok with theirs which are pretty much inconsequential and immaterial. Also, your protests stop being peaceful when you label users as "f'ucking plagues". Also, unless you buy decent amounts of NX I don't actually think you have the right to complain about anything because in all honesty you're just a leech on their servers. But I'm guilty of that myself.
Quote:What you're suggesting is akin to advocating GANG RAPE. She's already being raped so we might as well join in or we won't get any.
Good Lord this doesn't even deserve a response.
Signs of Alien PQ coming back? - Shidoshi - 2011-07-04
You can't expect people to suddenly stop using cars or eating animals. It's not for nothing that we invented cars, we can't afford to lose so much time on transportation on our world right now (can't ship things by bike/canoe across the sea and expect people to be happy, you can't take 2h to get to work each day if you want to have any time left). In the case of animals, the concentrated source of proteins they have are much more efficient, if we all got our proteins from nuts there would be not enough nuts for everyone.
The guys at PETA/Greenpeace should stop being stupid extremists, you can't expect society to change all at once for things that they developped out of necessity. You need a middle ground (like public transport instead of urging everyone to walk/bike everywhere) or eating only animals that are raised for this purpose.
Exploiting abuses is something that has no reason to be other than taking advantage of the system at the expense of other players.
Yes, I'm still on that same side as Sarah.
Signs of Alien PQ coming back? - Rick - 2011-07-04
I'm still wondering how this glitch is at the expense of other players?
Also, sometimes acting 'bad' is necessary in order to survive. People need to take off the rose coloured glasses.
Signs of Alien PQ coming back? - Yokuyin - 2011-07-04
This glitch is at the expense of other players because these people can get weapons you shouldn't be able to get at this time. These people have weapons which are stronger than most weapons, and are therefore stronger then people not using this glitch. Or these people sell these weapons, causing them to have more money than people not using the glitch.
I am with Sarah here. It's ruining the game (though not as big as the word implies) by bringing more VIP weapons in the market than intended. It's like tax fraud: personally you get better of it, but everyone else gets worse because they have to pay what you didn't pay.
Signs of Alien PQ coming back? - Locked - 2011-07-04
Yokuyin Wrote:This glitch is at the expense of other players because these people can get weapons you shouldn't be able to get at this time. These people have weapons which are stronger than most weapons, and are therefore stronger then people not using this glitch. Or these people sell these weapons, causing them to have more money than people not using the glitch.
I am with Sarah here. It's ruining the game (though not as big as the word implies) by bringing more VIP weapons in the market than intended. It's like tax fraud: personally you get better of it, but everyone else gets worse because they have to pay what you didn't pay.
Would have been an amazing theory and point if only people could actually lead the PQ.
9/10 people can't even lead.