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[Legend] Mercedes - Tay - 2011-07-01
Dunno if this has been mentioned, but you can walk with the hurricane skill. You're a tad slower, but you can walk.
[Legend] Mercedes - xallista - 2011-07-01
From HighOnMushroom's blog...
Quote:Something special about Mercedes is that she does not use arrows. Well, her Shield slot is replaced with her Magic Arrows. These are very special as they never run out, and most of all, they can be potentialed.The first archer class with shield slot potential?
[Legend] Mercedes - Kalovale - 2011-07-01
Tay Wrote:Dunno if this has been mentioned, but you can walk with the hurricane skill. You're a tad slower, but you can walk.
Just like the with ordinary Hurricane, no?
[Legend] Mercedes - Worthyness - 2011-07-01
Kalovale Wrote:Just like the with ordinary Hurricane, no?
No this one you shoot while walking. Bowmaster hurricane you have to tap and shoot in order to get the same effect. Tap shooting is a little less good for DPS/pinning. Moving shot for Mercedes continues the full speed of the attack.
[Legend] Mercedes - GoreParadise - 2011-07-01
Well, a LEGEND has to be better than the normal adventurer amirite?
[Legend] Mercedes - DeanNim - 2011-07-01
GoreParadise Wrote:Well, a LEGEND has to be better than the normal adventurer amirite?
but mir isnt as good as afrien(assuming) and aran isnt as strong as this :O
[Legend] Mercedes - JoeTang - 2011-07-01
Aran has pretty bad single target like Paladins and Dark Knights, but they have the 3rd best mobbing next to Post-Jump Marksmen and Magicians I believe.
[Legend] Mercedes - Satellite - 2011-07-01
JoeTang Wrote:Aran has pretty bad single target like Paladins and Dark Knights, but they have the 3rd best mobbing next to Post-Jump Marksmen and Magicians I believe.We are post-Chaos now bro
[Legend] Mercedes - GoreParadise - 2011-07-01
Nexon should buff Evan and Aran to Mercedes's standard of "legend"
[Legend] Mercedes - JoeTang - 2011-07-01
Satellite Wrote:We are post-Chaos now bro
Aran has pretty bad single target. I don't think it even breaks 2000%/s unless you have advantage.
[Legend] Mercedes - Chameleonic - 2011-07-01
xallista Wrote:From HighOnMushroom's blog...
Quote:Something special about Mercedes is that she does not use arrows. Well, her Shield slot is replaced with her Magic Arrows. These are very special as they never run out, and most of all, they can be potentialed.
The first archer class with shield slot potential?
It should have been like that for all Archers from the start...
[Legend] Mercedes - GoreParadise - 2011-07-01
JoeTang Wrote:Aran has pretty bad single target. I don't think it even breaks 2000%/s unless you have advantage.
Wow.. less than 2000%/s ?
Battlemages pwn all when there are 6 targets right? (Since their bossing skill = mobbing skill)
[Legend] Mercedes - JoeTang - 2011-07-01
GoreParadise Wrote:Wow.. less than 2000%/s ?
Battlemages pwn all when there are 6 targets right? (Since their bossing skill = mobbing skill)
Pretty sure it's Aran > Battle Mage > Marksman > F/P right now in Chaos or something like that, if the Battle Mage uses Teleport. Aran smashes mobs because it can hit 8 targets.
Warriors have lower single target than Bowmen. Pretty plain and simple. After Jump, Aran are still stronger 1v1 than Paladins and Dark Knights, though Paladins can get advantage. Heroes are a lot stronger since they have Enrage. Without it, they're still the highest. There's other factors, namely the weapon modifier as well as utility that affects why their %/s is traditionally lower.
[Legend] Mercedes - Arcana - 2011-07-01
GoreParadise Wrote:Nexon should buff Evan and Aran to Mercedes's standard of "legend"I agree with your point, but Nexon probably think that the other two legends are human (even Mir is dragon, it's bound to a human, bad luck >.>), and elf should be superior than human....
[Legend] Mercedes - JoeTang - 2011-07-01
Aran is fine. I think Evan needs buffing though after Jump Magicians got hugely rewarded. Mercedes seems equal with other bowmen too, just a lot flashier and arguably mobile in the early jobs. Can't really tell how Acrobatic Jump compares to Double Jump, but it comes a job earlier. They both provide good synergy to a bossing party as well.
[Legend] Mercedes - Polantaris - 2011-07-01
GoreParadise Wrote:Nexon should buff Evan and Aran to Mercedes's standard of "legend"
Your point makes sense, however I don't think every other class should become nothing, which would happen if they did that.
Look at half the skills for this class. I was fine with this class until 3rd job. Free 40WATK, then another free 20 from Advanced Final, and then +30% DAMAGE from one of the 4th job skills. Not only that, they get a 10 second cooldown skill that does 4800% damage (1200%, 4 hits) to TWO mobs, which are auto killed if they're not bosses.
I really liked the mobility of this class, and that should be enough to get players to play it. It looks fun, which is rare on MS classes (I mean, look at CS. That class looks boring). They don't need to make it insanely overpowered and overshadow every other character at the same time. The Legends should be unique, but not super powerful I think. Aran and Evan are both unique in their own way. Aran has that interesting combat system, which while I never really tried (I'm not a fan of button combos and timed presses, reminds me of fighting games), certainly has it's advantages and I imagine is pretty fun to play, and Evan has the whole Dragon thing. This class should get their advantage from their speed, mobility, and crazy launching skills. Instead, it gets those AND insanely overpowered passives and one REALLY broken bossing skill, ALONG with a Hurricane duplicate! If that's not overpowered, I don't know what is.
Nexon should stop making new classes overpowered which we all know that 3 months later will be nerfed to hell, and just make a class that's balanced and fun to play from the start. It's far too old at this point. This class doesn't need to be overpowered to be a fun class, or a practical class. Those skills it has alone are amazing, but even if they were nerfed a little bit (Before we saw them) they wouldn't be bad, and most people would still ogle over the character. Hell, in the release extraction, before there were even skill tables, people were going "THAT MOBILITY!" and already saying they wanted to play the character. We don't need a Mechanic 2.0, because eventually we all know what will happen.
[Legend] Mercedes - JoeTang - 2011-07-01
Polantaris Wrote:Your point makes sense, however I don't think every other class should become nothing, which would happen if they did that.
Look at half the skills for this class. I was fine with this class until 3rd job. Free 40WATK, then another free 20 from Advanced Final, and then +30% DAMAGE from one of the 4th job skills. Not only that, they get a 10 second cooldown skill that does 4800% damage (1200%, 4 hits) to TWO mobs, which are auto killed if they're not bosses.
AND BOW MASTERS ARE IMBALANCED BECAUSE THEY GET 20 FREE WEAPON ATTACK FROM AFA 20 FROM CONCENTRATE 30 FROM BOW EXPERT AND 40 FREE DEX FROM ILLUSION STEP
[Legend] Mercedes - Abysseon - 2011-07-01
JoeTang Wrote:I think Evan needs buffing though after Jump Magicians got hugely rewarded.
I'm still surprised that Evans remained a pay2play class in GMS, most of the players in the basil forums were
disappointed in the changes from chaos.
Also, Blaze should have kept its mobbing ability (while removing the 'chain' effect) since Paralyze/CL/AR was not changed to 1v1.
[Legend] Mercedes - Polantaris - 2011-07-01
JoeTang Wrote:AND BOW MASTERS ARE IMBALANCED BECAUSE THEY GET 20 FREE WEAPON ATTACK FROM AFA 20 FROM CONCENTRATE 30 FROM BOW EXPERT AND 40 FREE DEX FROM ILLUSION STEP
Thanks for reminding me about the +30 WATK from Dual Bow Expert, I forgot all about that.
We're not just talking passives here. They get passives, AND they get insane attack skills. 4800% damage to two mobs, insta kill when they're not bosses? I don't see ANYONE having that. They also have insane mobbing skills, just watch any of the videos people have posted. They have mobbing, they have bossing, AND they have passives out the ass. They're overpowered.
[Legend] Mercedes - octopusprime - 2011-07-01
JoeTang Wrote:AND BOW MASTERS ARE IMBALANCED BECAUSE AFA
Fix'd. trololol.