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[Module] The Restructuring | Aran/Evan skills - Solarboy - 2010-11-18
Roxas Wrote:What random teleport? Am I missing something?
At around 1:32 in the video.
[Module] The Restructuring | Aran/Evan skills - Jerry-Boyle - 2010-11-18
Solarboy Wrote:[video=youtube;Vyy2G3BQ-Y4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vyy2G3BQ-Y4&feature=sub[/video]I think the new buffed he used is the 20% avoid party buff; like titled Sizing of The Onyx?
The new teleport skill looks extremly broken, also, speed got a yipeededoo raise and all attacks are better than using illusion.
*Credits to mazefind.
Other new skill he used is Dragon Blink(Tele)
His dmg is so low:/ Hopefully its from the newb equips.
[Module] The Restructuring | Aran/Evan skills - donovan - 2010-11-18
It seems really useful on a Map Like Wolf Spiders or Skelegons or even ToT, means you don't cycle the map, but unless your teleporting back to the same platform seems good. Also <3 Evan Speed.
[video=youtube;ekPeoKscRP4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekPeoKscRP4&feature=sub[/video]
She uses Dragon Blink pretty well I think.
[Module] The Restructuring | Aran/Evan skills - Bribery - 2010-11-18
omg it's beautiful
The speed boost is just what the class needed. Dragon Blink looks like it could be useful on large maps like ToT. However, it would suck if it teleported you to a spot you just killed or move you a few pixels forward xD.
[Module] The Restructuring | Aran/Evan skills - Lumancer - 2010-11-18
Bribery Wrote:omg it's beautiful
The speed boost is just what the class needed. Dragon Blink looks like it could be useful on large maps like ToT. However, it would suck if it teleported you to a spot you just killed or move you a few pixels forward xD.
What does it matter? When you can spam it so easily you can get pretty much wherever you want on a map pretty quickly
[Module] The Restructuring | Aran/Evan skills - donovan - 2010-11-18
Lumancer Wrote:What does it matter? When you can spam it so easily you can get pretty much wherever you want on a map pretty quickly
Yea that's what I'm seeing Dragon Blink is a welcome addition.
[Module] The Restructuring | Aran/Evan skills - JoeTang - 2010-11-18
MrGen Wrote:I agree with you JoeTang, but I just don't think anyone is saying that it's obsolete. Rather, it's just one of those things that people could care less about doing it when attacking. I can only speak for myself, but I find it rather annoying to have to press up to activate Final Toss and follow-through with worrying about juggling them; when I could just spam attack without having to do anything fancy with arrow keys. And move on to the next mob of monsters.
I have no idea. I just find it really easy and simple to do, and I use it a lot because it lets me move forward a lot easier without worrying about unpinning monsters. When I attack, I generally jump forward after each Overswing so things don't get knocked out of my range, so it's really natural for me to Final Toss mobs. I almost never overkill too because I Double Swing first, and see if I need the Triple Swing to kill them or not. It actually doesn't take any longer.
Jellyflower Wrote:Final toss is really weird, or overswing in general.
All taken in 30 seconds:
Super snowboard + booster: 23.6666 OS, 18.75 OS + final toss -> 37866.56 %, 37020% (# OS * 1600% + # toss * 390%)
Arclglaive + no booster: 18.3333 OS, 15 OS + final toss -> 29338.28%, 29850%
Pure OS would grant faster combo charge but then with combo recharge, this may not be as important a factor anymore. Oh by the way, I was never an advocate for final blow, I think the skill is absolutely garbage, it obviously lowers your dps in all situation unless you count hitting things out of your normal range.
I think Fenrir/Judgement training after Big Bang would be the most effective route because you don't get such a massive boost in damage from having maxed out Critical Rate anymore. Especially since Fenrir does similar damage to what it is now, but only takes 50 Combo and is a second job skill and whatnot.
Also, I like repeating myself but: Illusion sucks so baaaaaaaaaaaad. Right now, Phantom Imprint is the premier DPS skill, which is really cool because it's only 10 points and it gives increased damage on monsters it hits anyways. 903.6%/s before Booster after you mark something, which is really high compared to every other skill they have. Blaze comes in at 716.7%/s, so its use would be great against something weak to Fire I suppose. Dragon Thrust is sick good though. Almost matches Illusion's crappy DPS, and almost guaranteed knock-back with that speed means you never get hit.
[Module] The Restructuring | Aran/Evan skills - Dusk - 2010-11-18
Anyone else think Evans are...too fast now? I mean, they have a -3 Booster to begin with and now some of their skills have base cast times that are lower than other mages. The dragon just looks a bit strange tearing across the screen at that speed. I'm all for Evans not being slow and boring as pomegranate anymore but I think they overdid it.
[Module] The Restructuring | Aran/Evan skills - Corn - 2010-11-18
Dusk Wrote:Anyone else think Evans are...too fast now? I mean, they have a -3 Booster to begin with and now some of their skills have base cast times that are lower than other mages. The dragon just looks a bit strange tearing across the screen at that speed. I'm all for Evans not being slow and boring as pomegranate anymore but I think they overdid it.
Still quite slower than, say, Night Lords and the like. Anyways, it's good to not have a slow Magician for a change.
[Module] The Restructuring | Aran/Evan skills - FanaticRat - 2010-11-18
Wow that Evan looks tits...but useless Illusion makes me sad, that was the skill I was looking forward to the most. Looks so cool.
[Module] The Restructuring | Aran/Evan skills - Dusk - 2010-11-18
Corn Wrote:Still quite slower than, say, Night Lords and the like. Anyways, it's good to not have a slow Magician for a change.
Dragon Thrust's new speed: 630 ms
Triple Throw speed: 600 ms
Their higher level skills are fine, but Magic Flare and Dragon Thrust look ridiculous. I don't understand why they need to make the higher level skills slower than the lower level skills.
[Module] The Restructuring | Aran/Evan skills - Corn - 2010-11-18
Dusk Wrote:Dragon Thrust's new speed: 630 ms
Triple Throw speed: 600 ms
Their higher level skills are fine, but Magic Flare and Dragon Thrust look ridiculous. I don't understand why they need to make the higher level skills slower than the lower level skills.
Okay, Triple Throw seems faster because of the multi hits and Shadow Partner
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[Module] The Restructuring | Aran/Evan skills - Solarboy - 2010-11-18
The new dragon thrust looks preety cool. However I haven't seen Final attack being executed, I wonder if it's glitched.
[Module] The Restructuring | Aran/Evan skills - JoeTang - 2010-11-18
Corn Wrote:Still quite slower than, say, Night Lords and the like. Anyways, it's good to not have a slow Magician for a change.
Actually, the only thing faster than Magic Missile is Double Fire. Dragon Thrust is the same speed as Avenger. Magic Flare is the speed cap for most characters. If single target damage weren't worthless, I would say Magic Flare is severely overpowered for its level, but it's just a little too strong. Dragon Thrust is a bit overpowered though. Especially if you consider that he's using it to train at 120. Earthquake is fine where it's at, if not still too slow, considering how Dragon Thrust is more useful.
[Module] The Restructuring | Aran/Evan skills - Bribery - 2010-11-18
DPS-wise Evans are still underpowered, even if their skills are faster than other classes'. Ghost Lettering is their strongest single target and it's weaker than an EWand boosted Chain Lightning.
[Module] The Restructuring | Aran/Evan skills - JoeTang - 2010-11-18
Bribery Wrote:Even though some of their skills are fast, DPS-wise Evans are still underpowered. Ghost Lettering is their strongest single target and it's weaker than an EWand boosted Chain Lightning.
Part of the problem is they get Magic Flare at 5x and Dragon Thrust at 6x. No other job will have the speed or power to compete at that level, especially since Dragon Thrust can force monsters together like that, denying much more easily than other characters attacking.
They could use some boost late game, perhaps, but they also have a significant magic attack advantage over regular magicians.
[Module] The Restructuring | Aran/Evan skills - SwordStaker - 2010-11-18
Bribery Wrote:DPS-wise Evans are still underpowered, even if their skills are faster than other classes'. Ghost Lettering is their strongest single target and it's weaker than an EWand boosted Chain Lightning.It's still Tespia one I'm sure illusion and maybe blaze willbe fixed. And in Reality Illusion doesn't look bad. People are freaking otu about it but it really does NOT look bad at all.
EDIT: Isay this because look at the videos present. They're level 12x videos not even above 125. You can't really expect anything showing about a level 12x character. Wait till higher leveled videos come out THEN judge how this looks. From what I see the speed on Illusion is really making up for lost damage and even then the damage looks no where near bad. Skill was probably level 1 and they were still pulling about about 30k at rapid speed.
[Module] The Restructuring | Aran/Evan skills - Mike - 2010-11-18
I'm gonna be having fun messing around with that new teleport skill.
[Module] The Restructuring | Aran/Evan skills - JoeTang - 2010-11-18
SwordStaker Wrote:It's still Tespia one I'm sure illusion and maybe blaze willbe fixed. And in Reality Illusion doesn't look bad. People are freaking otu about it but it really does NOT look bad at all.
EDIT: Isay this because look at the videos present. They're level 12x videos not even above 125. You can't really expect anything showing about a level 12x character. Wait till higher leveled videos come out THEN judge how this looks. From what I see the speed on Illusion is really making up for lost damage and even then the damage looks no where near bad. Skill was probably level 1 and they were still pulling about about 30k at rapid speed.
No, the skill was level 10. I don't know why you keep arguing that it's not as bad as it seems. It does about 10k per hit? He could cast two Phantom Imprints in the same amount of time. The first Phantom Imprint would do about 45k. The second would do about 55k. Guess which one is better?
[Module] The Restructuring | Aran/Evan skills - Kurokisuke - 2010-11-18
does anyone have vids of the new aran?