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[1.2.323] (2) Moar Skill Balancing - GodCanJudge - 2010-07-02
JoeTang Wrote:Advanced Charge Blow's delay was changed to 600ms, basically Flash Fist speed. 1644.6625%/s per mob
that is ridiculous... flash fist speed is annoying though, you either maximize dps by spamming and missing the knockback time and then tanking a hit, or you time it and never take a hit but lower ur dps...
on the bucc changes, i think they calculated barrage, maybe not demolition or CSB, but i dont think you can come up with a wierd number like 342 without calculating, i think there's gonna be a dmg multiplier on the end
[1.2.323] (2) Moar Skill Balancing - dpeterlin - 2010-07-02
JoeTang Wrote:I calculated both damages using their criticals. Judgement Dragon is significant enough to care about, but the default critical gives on average 1.75% damage per hit.
Interesting, I was under the impression crits would do a lot more. I remember seeing a vid (from the new kmst) where a drk was able to be seen and his damage was almost doubled when a crit activated, perhaps another buff was present. Edit: Yeah just looked up other ones, it is not a big boost at all =(
Thanks for the calcs.
and like mentioned above -- the level100-120 have a base 7 speed for spears, PAs have a base 8 -- so using base 7 is more than likely the best option.
[1.2.323] (2) Moar Skill Balancing - IllegallySane - 2010-07-02
Takebacker Wrote:F'UCK YOU NEXON GIVE ME BACK MY 6 HIT CORKSCREW BLOW. c
Darkmaniak Wrote:What's up with the brawler changes.... really
"- Oh crap, they're reaching a decent DPS; nerf them now!
- But we already took away some invincibility frames, isn't that the exchange for power?
- .... right, let's give them minor nerfs, take 18% from barrage and 20 from demo, also reduce mob count on CSB"
.... yeahhh.... weird.
Is it actually true on kMST? I think it's a translation error. It said it was "CSB changed from 3 mobs * 150% damage * 3 times " when the previous patch they were already hitting 6 mobs * 150% * 3 hits.
[1.2.323] (2) Moar Skill Balancing - byakugan - 2010-07-02
Fiel Wrote:Fighter:
- Brave Slash's damage reduced from 205% to 190%
- Enrage's duration decreased from 240 to 180
The hell is going on with Nexon Korea? Brave Slash was already on par with 3rd Job Brandish and they keep sinking it?
Fiel, any info on if they reduced the casting time? (like below of 1020)
[1.2.323] (2) Moar Skill Balancing - iamflip - 2010-07-02
Bribery Wrote:All [Mortal Blow] does now is give you a chance to OHKO a monster when their HP is below a certain %. I would assume this applies to all attacks.
So wait... if you using Hurricane on a monster from a distance...
[1.2.323] (2) Moar Skill Balancing - Hazzy - 2010-07-02
iamflip Wrote:So wait... if you using Hurricane on a monster from a distance...
I want to say it's 30% HP. So yea, more or less Hurricane reduces nonboss mobs' HP by 30%. I think something like that would balance UltraStrafe well.
Edit:
From Fiel's KOR Tables
Maxed Mortal Blow:
HP가 30% 이하일 때 20% 확률로 즉사
When HP is below 30% to 20% chance of instant death
When the mob has under 30% HP, there's a 20% chance to insta kill. On large-HP mobs that can take 8+ arrows and only lose 10% or so HP, this would be really useful.
I'm not sure such mobs are common.
[1.2.323] (2) Moar Skill Balancing - Dusk - 2010-07-02
iamflip Wrote:So wait... if you using Hurricane on a monster from a distance...
Yes. This isn't exactly OP. I tried RF with my Crit ring. Still kills a lot slower than simply Torpedoing mobs. Plus it only works at 30% HP or less.
GodCanJudge Wrote:that is ridiculous... flash fist speed is annoying though, you either maximize dps by spamming and missing the knockback time and then tanking a hit, or you time it and never take a hit but lower ur dps...
Not sure what you mean by this. Most mobs have very short KB times and ACB won't miss the second hit.
[1.2.323] (2) Moar Skill Balancing - JoeTang - 2010-07-02
Dusk Wrote:Yes. This isn't exactly OP. I tried RF with my Crit ring. Still kills a lot slower than simply Torpedoing mobs. Plus it only works at 30% HP or less.
Not sure what you mean by this. Most mobs have very short KB times and ACB won't miss the second hit.
Not to mention that monsters can't exactly do anything to you if your KB timing isn't synced when they're stunned.
[1.2.323] (2) Moar Skill Balancing - Abysseon - 2010-07-02
iamflip Wrote:Well, SR now has stun, so...
owait, that's for healers. I dunno about the other classes. ^^;
That is what I don't understand about the change.
Priests/Bishops get 50% crit rate, higher stun rate, and a stronger meditation.
Those adjustments would seem to benefit the attacking mage classes more but nexon
disagrees...
They could have at least raised the teleport mastery for archmages and not to mention
some more changes for f/p.
I haven't seen i/l archmages play yet but I've heard that the revamp finally allowed us to
be good at bossing.
[1.2.323] (2) Moar Skill Balancing - Worthyness - 2010-07-02
was the buccaneer nerf really that necessary? A lot of these changes don't really seem necessary at all. It's like they're just biding their time to find everything "unbalanced" with other classes.
lol bomasters don't get anything useful... I mean if mortal blow does the same thing it does now with hurricane, it won't be too much of a hinderance (i.e. hurricane--> quick MB--> hurriane without any loss of speed)
SP reset everything except 1 seems really not useful for me o_O What about the people who don't want to add SP to useless skills like warrior's first job's Iron body or w/e? If it's by jobs i think it should be fine in the later jobs, but everything else is just whack.
[1.2.323] (2) Moar Skill Balancing - Takebacker - 2010-07-02
Worthyness Wrote:SP reset everything except 1 seems really not useful for me o_O What about the people who don't want to add SP to useless skills like warrior's first job's Iron body or w/e? If it's by jobs i think it should be fine in the later jobs, but everything else is just whack.
I read it as you get all the SP you currently have +1 SP for every skill in your entire book. An overall gain in total SP.
[1.2.323] (2) Moar Skill Balancing - Hazzy - 2010-07-02
Takebacker Wrote:I read it as you get all the SP you currently have +1 SP for every skill in your entire book. An overall gain in total SP.
If it does work like this, can you SP reset those +1 skills? Having a level 5 4th job skill at level 120 would be fun.
[1.2.323] (2) Moar Skill Balancing - Takebacker - 2010-07-02
Hazzy Wrote:If it does work like this, can you SP reset those +1 skills? Having a level 5 4th job skill at level 120 would be fun.
I'll find out how it works after this patch f'ucking downloads. Been going for like an hour and it's only downloaded 3 MB.
[1.2.323] (2) Moar Skill Balancing - Manu - 2010-07-02
GodCanJudge Wrote:on the bucc changes, i think they calculated barrage, maybe not demolition or CSB, but i dont think you can come up with a wierd number like 342 without calculating, i think there's gonna be a dmg multiplier on the end
Now I read this, I want a screenshot or video of barrage, god knows what they could've done, maybe last hit is 2x or 1.5x or something.
[1.2.323] (2) Moar Skill Balancing - vx-2 - 2010-07-02
Bribery Wrote:All it does now is give you a chance to OHKO a monster when their HP is below a certain %. I would assume this applies to all attacks.
It might apply to all attacks, but certainly not all mobs. Imagine HT/ Zkm below 30%, BM bang in a KO shot.... LOLs.... but anyways, BM is so screwed now... gone and bye bye jobs
[1.2.323] (2) Moar Skill Balancing - Dusk - 2010-07-02
vx-2 Wrote:It might apply to all attacks, but certainly not all mobs. Imagine HT/ Zkm below 30%, BM bang in a KO shot.... LOLs.... but anyways, BM is so screwed now... gone and bye bye jobs
You realize people were saying that about Bishops in .318, right? They're still balancing.
[1.2.323] (2) Moar Skill Balancing - soren5556 - 2010-07-02
wtp @ the brave slash reduction again
[1.2.323] (2) Moar Skill Balancing - Bribery - 2010-07-02
Any changes to Resistance/Legends (and Cygnus for the two people that care)?
[1.2.323] (2) Moar Skill Balancing - Erich - 2010-07-02
The potion is obviously to account for the new skill changes.
[1.2.323] (2) Moar Skill Balancing - Abysseon - 2010-07-02
Dusk Wrote:You realize people were saying that about Bishops in .318, right? They're still balancing.
True, but the current small balancing changes make it appear as though they're almost done.
Still room for improvement however.