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Regarding KMS scrolls and seeking advice - Alloy - 2010-06-01

One question... Do items without ANY slots, like mark of naricain, work with this?


Regarding KMS scrolls and seeking advice - Arroz - 2010-06-01

Pride Wrote:Did I waste my time typing this

no not at all. Those bonuses are crazy! I wonder how the mp/hp recovery works. If its passive like when you stand still or does it constantly do it. If it is the latter and was big enough you could make an entire set that enables you to indefinitely regenerate.

It may be practical to actually have several different weapons now. One for bossing specific monsters, others for training, etc...Heart


Regarding KMS scrolls and seeking advice - Pride - 2010-06-01

Alloy Wrote:One question... Do items without ANY slots, like mark of naricain, work with this?

KMS doesn't have such items.

@Arroz: the HP/MP recovery sucks, because they only have like a 5% chance of raising around 20~40 HP


Regarding KMS scrolls and seeking advice - shouri - 2010-06-02

The layout of the bonuses possible are actually great, Pride. Now we can plan ahead rather well for multiple sets of gear.


Regarding KMS scrolls and seeking advice - byakugan - 2010-06-02

It hit KMS on April right? so we have from 4 to 6 months to decide what to do (sell our stuff or save them and use potential scrolls)

I have a couple of questions.

1 - Do you think potential scrolls would affect foreign items? Like Stirgeman capes, scarlion helmets and other stuff from outside KMS.
2 - What you think will happen to items with weapon attack other than weapons? For example Pink Capes, Face stompers, stormcaster gloves and so on.

I hope this thing gets released on another version first.


Regarding KMS scrolls and seeking advice - Pride - 2010-06-02

byakugan Wrote:It hit KMS on April right? so we have from 4 to 6 months to decide what to do (sell our stuff or save them and use potential scrolls)

I have a couple of questions.

1 - Do you think potential scrolls would affect foreign items? Like Stirgeman capes, scarlion helmets and other stuff from outside KMS.
2 - What you think will happen to items with weapon attack other than weapons? For example Pink Capes, Face stompers, stormcaster gloves and so on.

I hope this thing gets released on another version first.

What.... it was released since like 2 weeks ago.

1. Yes.
2. The Potential scrolls won't add any more attack to those types of items, but I'm not sure what will happen if Strengthening scrolls are applied. :l


Regarding KMS scrolls and seeking advice - shouri - 2010-06-02

I'll try to make this clearer. If you have a 10+ att PAC already, it's still... okayish. Get some +6% STAT on it and it's fine. But almost no one will TRY to make 10 att PACs anymore. They could just get a high level cape use 5 60%s STAT scrolls and try for +9%s. The two will end up being roughly the same, but people will much MUCH more easily be able to get a +9% cape than a 10 att PAC first.

What if you boom your high level cape with 5 60s on it landed? Easy! go hunt another one. Expensive? No. Did you boom your 10 att PAC? oops. good luck making/buying another.

If for some reason you get 3 +9s... pretty much none of the current att PACs would be better.


Regarding KMS scrolls and seeking advice - Hanabira.Kage - 2010-06-02

shouri Wrote:only things like 10+att PACs will still be useful. But almost no one will try to do that anymore with the posibility of getting 3 STAT+9%'s is available. Hell, even getting 2+6s% and a +3% would still be considered better than a 10 att PAC. +15% near lvl 140 would be around 90 more of a stat. And that's only the boost from identifying. So you could have a clean def/mdef cape, toss 5 60% dex on it, and 2-3 strengtheners with a few +stat%s and you'd be set with a cape probably just as good (if not better) than a 10 att PAC.

Best part... it would be SO much easier to make it on your own than making a high att PAC.

If for some reason you get 3 +9s... pretty much none of the current att PACs would be better.

Hmm...in that case more people may frequent PQs such as Ludibrium PQ and Magatia PQ for the capes. ._.

Much, much better than the ghost towns they are now in MSEA. I assume they're also almost completely deserted in GMS?



Regarding KMS scrolls and seeking advice - Pride - 2010-06-02

shouri Wrote:only things like 10+att PACs will still be useful. But almost no one will try to do that anymore with the posibility of getting 3 STAT+9%'s is available. Hell, even getting 2+6s% and a +3% would still be considered better than a 10 att PAC. +15% near lvl 140 would be around 90 more of a stat. And that's only the boost from identifying. So you could have a clean def/mdef cape, toss 5 60% dex on it, and 2-3 strengtheners with a few +stat%s and you'd be set with a cape probably just as good (if not better) than a 10 att PAC.

Best part... it would be SO much easier to make it on your own than making a high att PAC.

If for some reason you get 3 +9s... pretty much none of the current att PACs would be better.


The max stat percentage possible for a PAC is 6%.
Or did you mean 9% on a high level cape.
wtp I can't understand shet when I'm sleepy >.>


Regarding KMS scrolls and seeking advice - Stereo - 2010-06-02

I think he means +6%/+6%/+6% on the PAC (best possible) would be beaten by +9%/+9%/+9% on a high level cape, cause a 9% higher stat boost is bigger than some amount of w.atk.

As a warrior in GMS, I have an advantage.

Taru Spirit Cape
level 80
+3 w.atk
+5 str
+15 avoid
5 slots

If I can identify one of these for a good +%str I'm pretty much set.



I am kinda curious about the rate of Rare/Epic/Uniques though - that 45mil +21% earring indicates that the uniques are fairly likely to happen, if it's already so cheap. All the items in that shop seem to be Uniques.



Regarding KMS scrolls and seeking advice - Cyanne - 2010-06-02

kMS prices are drastically different from gMS prices, their time pieces are like 1mil each xP


Regarding KMS scrolls and seeking advice - Pride - 2010-06-02

Cyanne Wrote:kMS prices are drastically different from gMS prices, their time pieces are like 1mil each xP

Yay for 3m Chaos scrolls! Wink


Regarding KMS scrolls and seeking advice - Hotshot - 2010-06-02

Cyanne Wrote:kMS prices are drastically different from gMS prices, their time pieces are like 1mil each xP

We're getting there slowly. I remember them being reported at 5mil when ours were 8-10.


Regarding KMS scrolls and seeking advice - shouri - 2010-06-02

shouri Wrote:I'll try to make this clearer. If you have a 10+ att PAC already, it's still... okayish. Get some +6% STAT on it and it's fine. But almost no one will TRY to make 10 att PACs anymore. They could just get a high level cape use 5 60%s STAT scrolls and try for +9%s. The two will end up being roughly the same, but people will much MUCH more easily be able to get a +9% cape than a 10 att PAC first.

What if you boom your high level cape with 5 60s on it landed? Easy! go hunt another one. Expensive? No. Did you boom your 10 att PAC? oops. good luck making/buying another.

If for some reason you get 3 +9s... pretty much none of the current att PACs would be better.

I've gone on ahead and made it easier to read.


Regarding KMS scrolls and seeking advice - Stereo - 2010-06-02

Cyanne Wrote:kMS prices are drastically different from gMS prices, their time pieces are like 1mil each xP

Yeah, but in raw mesos alone, I'm pulling in about 800k/hr at Temple of Time. I could actually save up 45mil just by being frugal with pots for a couple weeks. (my NL also makes about 800-900k per Papulatus, just NPCing the potions - all equips and skillbooks are a bonus). With the 10x item droprate of KMS, NPCing equips would actually become a decent source of cash.

It's not like it costs 1.5 billion, and the only way to get that much meso is selling items to other players. You can make 45mil just by selling to the NPCs.



Regarding KMS scrolls and seeking advice - Cavalier - 2010-06-02

Sorry if this question has already been asked/answered, but, are the % bonuses applied to the item only, to all equips only, or to all stats you have?


Regarding KMS scrolls and seeking advice - Pride - 2010-06-02

Stereo Wrote:Yeah, but in raw mesos alone, I'm pulling in about 800k/hr at Temple of Time. I could actually save up 45mil just by being frugal with pots for a couple weeks. (my NL also makes about 800-900k per Papulatus, just NPCing the potions - all equips and skillbooks are a bonus). With the 10x item droprate of KMS, NPCing equips would actually become a decent source of cash.

It's not like it costs 1.5 billion, and the only way to get that much meso is selling items to other players. You can make 45mil just by selling to the NPCs.

The NPC price for equipment was changed to 1/10 as the drop rate was increased by 10x.
There's not much difference with the previous normal price and drop rate.
I get at least 1 equip per minute or two during training, so I still think the 10x is better. I can't go long before filling up my Equip. slot and NPCing them. I tend to toss them.

Cavalier Wrote:Sorry if this question has already been asked/answered, but, are the % bonuses applied to the item only, to all equips only, or to all stats you have?
All stats.


Regarding KMS scrolls and seeking advice - Goals - 2010-06-03

Does this mean we should all get rid of our equips beforehand before this hits GMS? I sense deflation (not mass, but some deflation). Also it would be cheaper just to get high level stuff so I should get rid of all my low level common gear.


Regarding KMS scrolls and seeking advice - shouri - 2010-06-03

10 att WGs would probably be useless. Toss a few 60% glove att on a lvl 80+ glove, get even 6 att, then you have the chance to get up to THREE of the STAT+9%s . Possibly even 15att WGs wouldn't be as good. WGs are only able to get three +3%s.

SCGs are more likely to be fine if they're over 13 att. I think they can get upto three +6%s. STAT+18% and 13 att still wouldn't be as good as stat+27% att +6 (landing 3/5 att scrolls).

Also, it'd be much easier on the money to try and use enhancers on the easily replaceable gloves. So regular high level gloves will be VERY popular.


Regarding KMS scrolls and seeking advice - IllegallySane - 2010-06-04

Arroz Wrote:this game just jumped the shark

With stuff like Chaos bosses, these gear are probably the only way to even beat them. I say kMS gave us exactly what we need to succeed, but it of course makes training faster because we become immensely stronger, meaning we level faster; I'm all for that. Also, makes the Item Maker more crucial than before. Nothing like mass producing and appraising equipment just for the +9%/+9%/+9% bonuses.