Zpyke Wrote:Though not in the exact words, I'm pretty sure this is what npcs told us. Though I'm still waiting for someone who's tested it and has proof to think of it as final.

Kalovale Wrote:Also taking into consideration the fact that there's no randStat=x variable in its data.
Stimulators would add, if any, random stats (regardless negative or positive), and hence the existence of that variable.

Fiel Wrote:I already know one of the first things I will be doing is attempting to forge a secret crystal.

xTanKieXx Wrote:Hi just posting regarding the ???? function of Maker skill,

Yesterday night i had discovered that by using ??? function, up to 4 enhancer gem could be used. which means by using ??? function, it broke the rule of
maximum 3 enhancer gem could be use on lvl 110 and 120 item.

From what i study of the diff job eq Recipe.
i Notice that this 2 item has a very unique recipe compare to the others same equipment of different Job.
The Item are:
Lvl 50 Pirate Shoe - Its the only lvl 50 shoe that require brown powder
Lvl 110 Purple Dragon Sleeve - Its the only Dragon series Equipment that need Purple Powder.

if what i suspect is true, the above 2 equipment is able to use 4 enhancer gem with ??? function ignoring the risk of getting another job's equipment due to its Unique Recipe.

Could this be the Advantages of using ??? function?

Takebacker Wrote:Are you saying that if you put the materials needed to forge any equipment, you can have 4 enhancement slots? So if i put in the exact materials for a timeless equinox i could add in a speed enhancement to it?

• Does it have to be of your class? (Pretty sure this is yes...?)
  
• Does it have to have a level requirement at or below your level? (Want to know this!)
  
• Can you break down equipment you otherwise can't wear? (Either it's the wrong gender, or you don't have the stats for it.)
  
• More opinion than rule, but is it still worth it to break down below average equips? I know you get less monster crystals by doing so, but if the item has no resale value anyway, is it better than NPCing it? (I guess I'm more asking, how much fewer monster crystals you get from below average equips, a lot or a little.)
  

Morgana Wrote:What are the rules for being able to disassemble an equip?

• Does it have to be of your class? (Pretty sure this is yes...?)
  
• Does it have to have a level requirement at or below your level? (Want to know this!)
  
• Can you break down equipment you otherwise can't wear? (Either it's the wrong gender, or you don't have the stats for it.)
  
• More opinion than rule, but is it still worth it to break down below average equips?
  

• No.
  
• Possibly.
  
• Yes. (self-explanatory seeing as you can break down other classes' equips)
  
• It's a good reason to break below-avg equips and attempt to remake better ones. Especially badly scrolled items or super below-avg.

Fiel Wrote:I decided that tonight I'm going to be writing a lot more of this guide - I might not complete it.

For people who play versions that already have Maker, can people fill me in more on how "???" works?

xTanKieXx Wrote:Hi Fiel,

Regarding the "???"... I've tried a few possible combinations on equipment formulas... but to no avail... I followed the exact formula of items even for my own class... I also cant make anything out of it...

The slots in "???" can be filled with practically anything... including but not limited to, cash items, untradable items, one of a kind items, maple equipments, ETC, USE... only seal locked items may be placed into the slots.

I also did try to mix & match a few different kind of crystals, plates and ores using the "???", hoping that I might get the hidden secret crystal... but to no avail...

Hope the above helps a bit in your research...

Cheers~

Fiel Wrote:Did you try using one of each type of crystal (Wis/LUK/DEX/Dark)?

Fiel Wrote:I meant STR and not Dark. So sue me.

Sn1perJohnE Wrote:We wont, but Nexon might D:

/Comic Relief

So, you can pretty much put any type of item into the ??? section? maybe you can make real Timeless items a-@ Hell maybe you can make wine out of water!