wobbufet Wrote:Somewhat related question: Does Frozen Heart's passive stack with Glacial Shroud's passive? Does Archangel's Staff's passive stack with Tear of the Goddess' passive? I've been assuming no but is that true?

KajitiSouls Wrote:Related: item-based on-next-attack bonus damage is UNIQUE and cannot be stacked by Sheen, Trinity Force, or Lich Bane. I think what happens instead if you have two of three of these items is that only the first item procs, literally whichever item is listed first in your inventory.

dante9898 Wrote:But since these items have a 2sec CD between each proc, its posible to use 2 of these if you have enough ASP and Abilities that can spammed under 1seg/2 or more abilities out of CD.

Aynia Wrote:Incorrect.

Priority unless changed since swain has been released is this

Lich > Trinity > Sheen

dante9898 Wrote:And this have to do with what i said how? Maybe you meant to quote kajiti?

wobbufet Wrote:Tear of the Goddess
Sorcerer Boots
Frozen Heart

Let's say you turn the tear into an AA, build RoA and Randuins, what item would you get sixth? Funny how I'm able to answer my own question after thinking it through all the way, more damage would be either another RoA or a Void Staff, more tankyness would be Thornmail or a Will of the Ancients for spellvamp + aura. Bad shouri, dont ever stack frozen hearts again! xd


So about those passives, any other passives that definitely don't stack apart from the tear/AA/manamune and the sheen/trinity/lich bane?

Aynia Wrote:RoA is not a good choice unless first item.

Aynia Wrote:Randuins + FH is more than enough armor. You might want to consider a FoN. Thornmail is generally a bad item.

wobbufet Wrote:Not even for Ryze? Considering the mana, health and AP are all useful? It's the second highest mana item in the game after a charged tear.

Normally I'd agree but in the specific case of a full AD opponent team I'd still consider it.

Aynia Wrote:It takes 10 minutes to become fully charged. If you're not getting it early, don't get it at all.

You'd probably get more effective HP out of a warmogs tbh.

Aynia Wrote:You can't use more than 1. They are unique and do not stack. If you happen to have all 3, priority is lich > trinity > sheen.

dante9898 Wrote:Unless you mean that Lich happens to be on CD and you try to use a skill during that CD and you wont get the proc effect because the lich is in CD then it has nothing to do with what i said.

My logic is, You have both a sheen and a trinity force and ASP to give you 1 attack per sec:

1sec 2sec 3sec 4sec 5sec
Use a skill and got the Trinity Proc / Used the Proc and Trinity enter CD / Use a skill and get Sheen Proc / Used the proc and sheen enters in CD / Repeat

wobbufet Wrote:The HP is not the point, the mana and AP for damage are. HP just makes for extremely nice extra survivability since you have so much armor.

Since you already have AA, RoA would add 525 mana + 75 AP with 0 stacks. That makes 57 Q damage, 71 W damage and 26 E damage extra. (all numbers rounded down since I have no idea how that works in LoL.) That seems like quite a big increase to me, especially if you consider how spammable Q is.

dante9898 Wrote:But since these items have a 2sec CD between each proc, its posible (In theory) to use 2 of these if you have enough ASP and Abilities that can spammed under 1seg/2 or more abilities out of CD.

dante9898 Wrote:I actually have never used something like that, nor i plan on doing it. Im just theorycrafting with that.

KajitiSouls Wrote:So in other words, you don't realize how fking OP it would be if you could do something like that.

*coughSkarnersssscough*

KajitiSouls Wrote:So in other words, you don't realize how fking OP it would be if you could do something like that.

*coughSkarnersssscough*

dante9898 Wrote:I do know how Op that would be, but i also know that i have no Low CD champ that could abuse that well, so no reason for me to even try if its posible.

Aynia Wrote:Skarner, Evelynn, Vladimir, Akali, Poppy, Cokri, Karthus...

wobbufet Wrote:Tear of the Goddess
Sorcerer Boots
Frozen Heart

Let's say you turn the tear into an AA, build RoA and Randuins, what item would you get sixth? Funny how I'm able to answer my own question after thinking it through all the way, more damage would be either another RoA or a Void Staff, more tankyness would be Thornmail or a Will of the Ancients for spellvamp + aura. Bad shouri, dont ever stack frozen hearts again! xd


So about those passives, any other passives that definitely don't stack apart from the tear/AA/manamune and the sheen/trinity/lich bane?