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The revealed potential thread! - Kabanaw - 2010-10-09
2147483647 Wrote:Staff
![[Image: maple0000z.png]](http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/1427/maple0000z.png)
Nice.
The revealed potential thread! - Abrasive - 2010-10-10
Yesterday and today's pqs that i organized drop VIP necklaces, they must love our group
Spoiler
![[Image: 34rg4d1.jpg]](http://i51.tinypic.com/34rg4d1.jpg)
Other one is 12/11/10/10 unpotentialed.
And anyone know the price of the pends :f6: I never see them up for sale.
The revealed potential thread! - Takebacker - 2010-10-10
Vip necklaces are 145? Since when?
The revealed potential thread! - Tikey - 2010-10-10
Takebacker Wrote:Vip necklaces are 145? Since when?
Since always.
The revealed potential thread! - Takebacker - 2010-10-10
That's odd. I'd still rather have a MoN than one of those though.
The revealed potential thread! - WillDaSnail - 2010-10-10
Takebacker Wrote:Vip necklaces are 145? Since when?
Since the beginning. Someone has posted a SS of a VIP necklace somewhere in SP, and it did say level requirement was 145.
And a side note: While its deficient in terms of HP/MP boost (has none of that in its normal stats), a nicely potentialed VIP necklace will blow a MoN out of the water.
The revealed potential thread! - Dusk - 2010-10-10
MoN sucks. A regular HTP is better if you can get 3% stat on it. CHTPs are better than VIP necklaces, but VIP necklaces do have the advantage of being tradeable. I'm sticking with my CHTP for the 40+ luk it provides.
The revealed potential thread! - Dark Link - 2010-10-10
WillDaSnail Wrote:Since the beginning. Someone has posted a SS of a VIP necklace somewhere in SP, and it did say level requirement was 145.
And a side note: While its deficient in terms of HP/MP boost (has none of that in its normal stats), a nicely potentialed VIP necklace will blow a MoN out of the water.
+40 CHTPs already annihilate MoNs to no end when potentialed. I'm pretty sure a VIP Necklace would have to 12/8/8 or maybe even possibly 12/12/8 to beat a 3line CHTP.
The revealed potential thread! - Twilight - 2010-10-10
Dusk Wrote:MoN sucks. A regular HTP is better if you can get 3% stat on it. CHTPs are better than VIP necklaces, but VIP necklaces do have the advantage of being tradeable. I'm sticking with my CHTP for the 40+ luk it provides.
What is this, BasilMarket?
The revealed potential thread! - CarrionCrow - 2010-10-10
Twilight Wrote:What is this, BasilMarket?I don't get that comment.
About pendants:
Being a Night Lord, I had to get 6% LUK on the HT necklace before it won over a 12 att MoN. Then I got a chaos HT necklace. There can be no question though, If you use cubes the MoN is the worst of the 4 top tier pendants
The revealed potential thread! - Unauthorized Intruder - 2010-10-10
My cube madness has begun!!
Spoiler
![[Image: Maple0105.jpg]](http://i579.photobucket.com/albums/ss231/hhygyulg/Maple0105.jpg)
![[Image: Maple0104.jpg]](http://i579.photobucket.com/albums/ss231/hhygyulg/Maple0104.jpg)
![[Image: Maple0103.jpg]](http://i579.photobucket.com/albums/ss231/hhygyulg/Maple0103.jpg)
The revealed potential thread! - XxSilencer - 2010-10-10
I thought this was, dare I say, epic? Duo BGA run with leecher lol.
![[Image: htiqmf.jpg]](http://i52.tinypic.com/htiqmf.jpg)
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The revealed potential thread! - CarrionCrow - 2010-10-10
XxSilencer Wrote:I thought this was, dare I say, epic? Duo BGA run with leecher lol.
Hmm seems fun it does. How do you go about that as a duo? Warrior with enough HP to tank and the Night Lord staying safe and sound while throwing stars to his hearts content? Or is it simply a matter of pinning him?
The revealed potential thread! - wallie - 2010-10-10
Beg Wrote:
Well chuffed, only took 25 cubes as well. They add a total 802 HP when equipped. x_x
![[Image: Maple0259.jpg]](http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b153/skhepburn/Maple0259.jpg)
were these chaos'd? cause that's impressive
The revealed potential thread! - Birdie - 2010-10-10
finally maned up and scrolled my lunchbox
Spoiler
![[Image: Maple0024.jpg]](http://i827.photobucket.com/albums/zz196/keydor/Maple0024.jpg)
The revealed potential thread! - Worthyness - 2010-10-10
Dusk Wrote:MoN sucks. A regular HTP is better if you can get 3% stat on it. CHTPs are better than VIP necklaces, but VIP necklaces do have the advantage of being tradeable. I'm sticking with my CHTP for the 40+ luk it provides.
I can only afford the MoN cause i don't have the stats to CHT or HT AND i don't have the money to get anything else other than the MoN. The 300+ HP also does a hell of a lot for me, but the 10% HP would inevitably add more if i could afford it
I guess i'll wait till i can VIP pq with my cousins and then we can try to get necklaces and potential the crap out of them until i get 12% stat and 10-12% hp =(
The revealed potential thread! - Kaasoljoyyx - 2010-10-10
Dark Link Wrote:+40 CHTPs already annihilate MoNs to no end when potentialed. I'm pretty sure a VIP Necklace would have to 12/8/8 or maybe even possibly 12/12/8 to beat a 3line CHTP.
considering the average perfect you'd get
30/30/30/30, 2 WA/MA, 10% hp/mp VS 7% to a stat
Consider a level 200 with 999, you get 70 stats (rounded up to make it simpler)
Meaning that 2 WA [in most cases] needs to compare to +40 AP stat. So you gotta chaos it to be better. But that 10% hp is pretty nice, especially with massive defs and avoids (You get about 100 defs and 30 more avoid than a vip necklace).
Personally I'd prefer c-htp due to the hp since the damage difference isn't too huge, maybe like 3-4 attack. And the fact the only 3-stat vip necklace in bello atm is c/o'd astronomically high
The revealed potential thread! - XxSilencer - 2010-10-10
CarrionCrow Wrote:Hmm seems fun it does. How do you go about that as a duo? Warrior with enough HP to tank and the Night Lord staying safe and sound while throwing stars to his hearts content? Or is it simply a matter of pinning him?
We had some close calls but it's rather easy, the BM has a range where he usually won't get stunned at all and if anything happens I just just jump over and lure it back to the righrt side. But overall I just sit by the window and jump attack until BGB.
The revealed potential thread! - Stereo - 2010-10-10
Kaasoljoyyx Wrote:considering the average perfect you'd get
30/30/30/30, 2 WA/MA, 10% hp/mp VS 7% to a stat
Consider a level 200 with 999, you get 70 stats (rounded up to make it simpler)
Meaning that 2 WA [in most cases] needs to compare to +40 AP stat. So you gotta chaos it to be better. But that 10% hp is pretty nice, especially with massive defs and avoids (You get about 100 defs and 30 more avoid than a vip necklace).
Personally I'd prefer c-htp due to the hp since the damage difference isn't too huge, maybe like 3-4 attack. And the fact the only 3-stat vip necklace in bello atm is c/o'd astronomically high
When comparing +atk to +stats you might want to include MW20 or maybe 30, and other gear... with my MoN I'll have 1270 str when I hit 200, so I get 89 str from 7%. But the CHTP pushes that up to over 1300 str so it compounds with all my other percent gear. (30 extra str could be worth like 60-80 if you have nice gear).
The revealed potential thread! - Kaasoljoyyx - 2010-10-10
Oh yea, forgot that it wasn't just base. So 3 stat vip necklace could be much better then except it doesn't give the % hp bonus