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Warrior %/s (KMS You & I + GMS Unleashed) - Bernie47 - 2013-10-17

My bad i meant rolling soul with % buff duration making rolling soul active 100% of the time

Warrior %/s (KMS You & I + GMS Unleashed) - JoeTang - 2013-10-17

270 duration.

Mikhail:
 Spoiler
 Sharp Eyes
 Hyper


Warrior %/s (KMS You & I + GMS Unleashed) - Knaves - 2013-10-22

JoeTang Wrote:Demon Slayer: Vampiric Touch and Metamorphosis have priority over attacking skills that cost Force. Demon Slash is used if there is not enough Force to do anything else. Devil Cry is recast when its duration is 2s or lower. Dark Bind is cast when its cool down is off. Infinite Force is used when its cooldown is off. For six or less targets, Demon Impact is used when there is enough Force for it. For seven to ten targets, Demon Explosion (Infernal Concussion) is used. For 11 or more targets, Devil Cry is used. Demon Slayer with Booster and Concentration cannot be slower Faster (3).
Hyper: Uses Cerberus, Blue Blood, Demon Impact - Reinforce, Demon Impact - Bonus Attack, Demon Impact - Force Reduce, Metamorphosis - Reinforce, Metamorphosis - Force Reduce

Demon Avenger: Uses Exceed: Execution for 1~6 targets, Exceed: Moonlight Slash for 7~10 targets, Armor Break for 11+. Bat Swarm whenever it disappears. Armor Break before it runs out. Shield Chasing and Bloody Imprison after cooldown.
Hyper: Uses Forbidden Contract, and Thousand Sword for 5+ targets, and the following: Exceed - Reinforcement, Exceed - Bonus Chance, Shield Chasing - Reinforcement.


Hi just a couple of questions for your single-target calculations;

1. For your Demon Slayer's Hyper category, since Cerebus has a 5sec cooldown, do you include any demonslash/demonimpact within that 5s?
2. Also for cerebus, do you take into account the +50 force it recovers? I know its difficult to calculate, so all I'm asking is just whether it is included or not.
3. For Demon Avengers, is release overload used? Or are the calculations based on purely exceed execution all the way?

Thanks

Warrior %/s (KMS You & I + GMS Unleashed) - JoeTang - 2013-10-22

Knaves Wrote:Hi just a couple of questions for your single-target calculations;

1. For your Demon Slayer's Hyper category, since Cerebus has a 5sec cooldown, do you include any demonslash/demonimpact within that 5s?
2. Also for cerebus, do you take into account the +50 force it recovers? I know its difficult to calculate, so all I'm asking is just whether it is included or not.
3. For Demon Avengers, is release overload used? Or are the calculations based on purely exceed execution all the way?

Thanks

1. It does whatever it normally does except it uses Cerberus whenever it is available.
2. Yes, it adds Force.
3. Demon Avengers only use Exceed Overload to refresh it as a buff.

Updated top posts. From what I understand, Kaiser got whatever RED changes but you can still do stuff like Wing Beat while transfigured? Or is that gone now?

Warrior %/s (KMS You & I + GMS Unleashed) - fodjgngf - 2013-10-24

I was recently playing my Kaiser and yes it could Wing beat while transfigured.

Warrior %/s (KMS You & I + GMS Unleashed) - Tigeon - 2013-11-14

[MENTION=535]JoeTang[/MENTION]

I've been wondering, would charion breath have any value here?

I mean with it's extra hit hyper and damage buff, plus using the skill that gives infinate DF for 60 seconds and blue blood activated, was wondeirng if it would out do demon impact [even though demon impact has inherent boss damage and def ignre]

Just seeing what would be best to use at the gollux gem where you have to kill it within 2 minutes.


So I guess what I'm asking for:

Inifnate DF skill + blue blood + hypers for carrion breath + carrion breath DoT = how much % [something tells me you not going to be spamming cerebes every 5 secs either while uing carrion so no point in including it]

Thanks in advance~

Warrior %/s (KMS You & I + GMS Unleashed) - JoeTang - 2013-11-14

Tigeon Wrote:[MENTION=535]JoeTang[/MENTION]

I've been wondering, would charion breath have any value here?

I mean with it's extra hit hyper and damage buff, plus using the skill that gives infinate DF for 60 seconds and blue blood activated, was wondeirng if it would out do demon impact [even though demon impact has inherent boss damage and def ignre]

Just seeing what would be best to use at the gollux gem where you have to kill it within 2 minutes.


So I guess what I'm asking for:

Inifnate DF skill + blue blood + hypers for carrion breath + carrion breath DoT = how much % [something tells me you not going to be spamming cerebes every 5 secs either while uing carrion so no point in including it]

Thanks in advance~

No. Carrion Breath is terrible. Demon Impact is double its DPS before accounting for weapon speed, boss damage, and defense ignore. And like you said, you can't use Cerberus while using Carrion Breath.

Warrior %/s (KMS You & I + GMS Unleashed) - Tigeon - 2013-11-14

Jeez that is terrible. Oh well, was wodnering why they would give something so useless hypers but I guess most classes have hypers for useless stuff.

Thanks anyway~

Warrior %/s (KMS You & I + GMS Unleashed) - Takebacker - 2013-11-14

Tigeon Wrote:Jeez that is terrible. Oh well, was wodnering why they would give something so useless hypers but I guess most classes have hypers for useless stuff.

Thanks anyway~

Actually the classes that have useless hypers are now in the minority thanks to RED. Besides, 3 useless hypers means there's only 1 skill hyper you can't get so all the ones you do get are fantastic.

Warrior %/s (KMS You & I + GMS Unleashed) - Stereo - 2013-11-17

Most of the Hayato combos seem more effective on targets you can either push around or are big. e.g. there's no point casting anything after Hitokiri Strike because you're already way out of range of any boss.

Which is better 1v1 between Falcon Dive and just plain Sanrenzan spam, if the Falcon Dive is having its cooldown cancelled by Sanrenzan but the Sanrenzan's not hitting anything? Or is Shinsoku better in that case? On slightly bigger targets you can just Falcon Dive back and forth but it seems like without the free Sanrenzan its damage drops cause that loses you 2 extra hits.

Warrior %/s (KMS You & I + GMS Unleashed) - holycow - 2013-11-19

JoeTang Wrote:No. Carrion Breath is terrible. Demon Impact is double its DPS before accounting for weapon speed, boss damage, and defense ignore. And like you said, you can't use Cerberus while using Carrion Breath.

Would Carrion Breath win in hits/s though? Assuming both DI and CB hits 50mil / line

Warrior %/s (KMS You & I + GMS Unleashed) - JoeTang - 2013-11-19

holycow Wrote:Would Carrion Breath win in hits/s though? Assuming both DI and CB hits 50mil / line

You'd need 2.6x the damage for Carrion Breath to cap compared to Demon Impact. I can't remember if you can, but if Carrion Breath can be used indefinitely, it would have an advantage for hits per second. Otherwise, it needs to have around 14 seconds of uptime for the startup and ending to make up for the attack speed difference.

At this point though, you should just cap with Demon Slash since that's faster at speedcap.

Warrior %/s (KMS You & I + GMS Unleashed) - bxtduy - 2013-11-24

I have a question: For GMS Kaiser, under the Transfigured section, did you measure the dps during the 90s in final form or a combination of untransfigured and transfigured?

Warrior %/s (KMS You & I + GMS Unleashed) - kayeyearekay - 2013-12-11

fodjgngf Wrote:I was recently playing my Kaiser and yes it could Wing beat while transfigured.

dunno how you figure.... in GMS v143, transfigured kaiser cannot wingbeat. HUGE cut to dps. no more gollux solos

Warrior %/s (KMS You & I + GMS Unleashed) - Takebacker - 2013-12-11

kayeyearekay Wrote:dunno how you figure.... in GMS v143, transfigured kaiser cannot wingbeat. HUGE cut to dps. no more gollux solos

It's also an acknowledged bug.

Warrior %/s (KMS You & I + GMS Unleashed) - fodjgngf - 2013-12-11

kayeyearekay Wrote:dunno how you figure.... in GMS v143, transfigured kaiser cannot wingbeat. HUGE cut to dps. no more gollux solos

It could before RED.

Warrior %/s (KMS You & I + GMS Unleashed) - kayeyearekay - 2013-12-11

GMS v143 RED Paladin

Paladin charges are not getting their full effects.

4th job Divine - no holy bonus, or reduced damage effect on holy strong/weak at all

the effect that boosts a 2nd charge's damage after using a first, does not boost damage.
fire > blizzard
blizzard > lightning
holy > lightning

the tool tip for divine is worded in reverse. it should be "stunned enemies from lighting receive more damage"

Warrior %/s (KMS You & I + GMS Unleashed) - falados99 - 2013-12-15

This question for zero to come and wanting to prepare and play good instead of being bad alot ...

About comboing with skills for higher dps/m from 100-180 whats skills should i be combo/chaining ?

Warrior %/s (KMS You & I + GMS Unleashed) - JoeTang - 2013-12-15

falados99 Wrote:This question for zero to come and wanting to prepare and play good instead of being bad alot ...

About comboing with skills for higher dps/m from 100-180 whats skills should i be combo/chaining ?

Following the skill guide I have here, for Alpha, if you're strong enough, you can skip learning Spin Cutter until later to have a low cooldown Flash Assaulter at the really early levels. Otherwise, Alpha should be spamming Rolling Curve -> Rolling Assaulter -> Flash Assaulter -> Spin Cutter -> Rolling Curve -> ... If you're especially weak for some reason, you can skip learning Wind Strike and Storm Break until ~170, and rush monsters into a pile to use Wind Cutter on them since that will likely deal the most damage for you. Stronger characters can use Wind Strike and Storm Break to OHKO or 2HKO.
Until Beta maxes Power Stomp, she should be using Front Slash -> Upper Slash -> Front Slash -> Upper Slash. Then switch to Upper Slash -> Power Stomp. Use Whirlwind for the most damage until you get Earth Break or Advanced Power Stomp, and use those instead. When she learns Advanced Weapon Throw, you should optimize your attacks so you can use it as often as possible.

Warrior %/s (KMS You & I + GMS Unleashed) - IllegallySane - 2013-12-15

I assume that for Kaisers Dragon Slash pales in damage compared to Blade Burst spamming when Untransfigured? I guess at first Blade Burst seemed slower to me, but leveling it up seemed to make it way stronger that Dragon Slash even with all the passive boosts.