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Item Drops and Finds Version 2 - Post BB - Takebacker - 2013-04-11
iAmFear Wrote:There's no difference between Flamed items and items dropped with additional options
This is great news. This means i can go ahead and do upgrades normally without caring about being weaker in the end. Except for 150 stuff...that's still a waiting game.
Do 140 flames only drop from cygnus? I'm wondering how they could have been in such supply for them to be as low as 50m, even though i know the economy is massively different. If it's like, from cygnus and CHT, then we will have a lot less since we're still stuck at 30 people per SC unless it is fixed.
Item Drops and Finds Version 2 - Post BB - hadriel - 2013-04-12
Hijack the thread a bit: what does the (future) recipe for Stone of Eternal Life require?
Hadriel
Item Drops and Finds Version 2 - Post BB - FangelXIII - 2013-04-12
Speaking of the Stone of Eternal Life.
![[Image: 1528530-YH6G8WG.jpg]](http://sadpanda.us/images/1528530-YH6G8WG.jpg)
I totally need a Pocket Slot.
Item Drops and Finds Version 2 - Post BB - hadriel - 2013-04-12
Jelly! Sigh I'm still stuck with Spigelmann's Autograph (IIRC it's name is that).
Hadriel
Item Drops and Finds Version 2 - Post BB - Razmos - 2013-04-13
Look what I got.
![[Image: 2013041300001h.jpg]](https://imageshack.us/scaled/large/28/2013041300001h.jpg)
Not that big a deal, now look where I got it from. Hilla's Bloodfangs in the room before the boss room dropped it. Rather surprising.
Item Drops and Finds Version 2 - Post BB - Bomber - 2013-04-13
iAmFear Wrote:Being a boss item only affects the number of stats that are above, you can still get crap on them, like Empress weapons without an attack bonus, but since boss items have more above stats, there's a higher chance of getting something good. It doesn't matter if it was dropped or flamed, some items are simply Boss Items and are naturally better, I think Danny should have items tagged as "Boss Items" or something in his extractions, as that was one of the new variables found, if I remember correctly. There's no difference between Flamed items and items dropped with additional options, except if you use Flamed items to reset stats of an item that didn't previously have a scissor count, which would give you only 5 trades vs 10~20 of a 140+ item dropped with additional options.
Do these counts account for tradeable items and storage? And for clarifications sake, flaming that gives it additional options in the first place do not add to a scissor count? Or ONLY after you attempt a reset?
Item Drops and Finds Version 2 - Post BB - Grey - 2013-04-13
Bomber Wrote:Do these counts account for tradeable items and storage? And for clarifications sake, flaming that gives it additional options in the first place do not add to a scissor count? Or ONLY after you attempt a reset?
It counts when you use the scissors, and no, using a flame at all will give an item a scissor count. If you ever use a flame, the item becomes untradeable after you equip it, so there's no tradeable items with scissor counts. You can trade it as much as you want, as long as it was a tradeable item in the first place, before you equip it.
Item Drops and Finds Version 2 - Post BB - Bomber - 2013-04-13
iAmFear Wrote:It counts when you use the scissors, and no, using a flame at all will give an item a scissor count. If you ever use a flame, the item becomes untradeable after you equip it, so there's no tradeable items with scissor counts. You can trade it as much as you want, as long as it was a tradeable item in the first place, before you equip it.
So basically any dropped item that comes with additional options or flamed at all with be placed with scissors? Is there such a thing as a fully tradeable additonal options item in general?
Item Drops and Finds Version 2 - Post BB - Grey - 2013-04-13
Bomber Wrote:So basically any dropped item that comes with additional options or flamed at all with be placed with scissors? Is there such a thing as a fully tradeable additonal options item in general for anything?
It's not conditional, all items that drop have additional options, except the few items that aren't able to have it, but no, items that are dropped don't necessarily have scissor counts, only items above 140. Maybe 131+, I believe Loveless weapons also have scissor counts, but I don't know.
Basically, the only items with scissor counts are:
- All items over 140, or 131+, as I said above.
- Items that were flamed.
Current 140+ items won't automatically gain scissor counts, though, so as long as you don't flame your Empress stuff you can trade them as long as you want and have the scissors for it.
Item Drops and Finds Version 2 - Post BB - Bomber - 2013-04-13
iAmFear Wrote:Items that were flamed.
The last sentence conflicts this statement. Lets say, a fully tradeable pendant at lv100, will gain a count if flamed?
Item Drops and Finds Version 2 - Post BB - Grey - 2013-04-13
Bomber Wrote:The last sentence conflicts this statement. Lets say, a fully tradeable pendant at lv100, will gain a count if flamed?
Yes.
Wait, what's the conflict, exactly? As long as you don't flame something, it won't have a scissor count unless it's 140+ and it drops after additional options are added (so, not the 140 items that you currently have)
Item Drops and Finds Version 2 - Post BB - Bomber - 2013-04-13
iAmFear Wrote:Yes.
Wait, what's the conflict, exactly? As long as you don't flame something, it won't have a scissor count unless it's 140+ and it drops after additional options are added (so, not the 140 items that you currently have)
I got confused with the wording.
Thanks. Now i know what i dont want to flame..
Last question.....how do flames work with sharing tag items?
Item Drops and Finds Version 2 - Post BB - IllegallySane - 2013-04-13
I thought, "You know what would be funny?? If I AFKed 5 minutes with my machines set up, and I come back to see my pet picked up the Familiar card."
Spoiler
![[Image: tumblr_m8ztf0gl721r9zy3co1_1280.jpg]](http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8ztf0gl721r9zy3co1_1280.jpg)
Item Drops and Finds Version 2 - Post BB - Svverve - 2013-04-14
![[Image: 4KOMYnr]](http://imgur.com/4KOMYnr)
http://imgur.com/4KOMYnr
Got this off a 11 book philo run
annnnnnnnnnnnnnd I still dont know how to post ss's
Item Drops and Finds Version 2 - Post BB - babo - 2013-04-14
whew from 1 book
nice morning surprise
Item Drops and Finds Version 2 - Post BB - sweetpapaya - 2013-04-15
FINALLY <3
![[Image: Maple0011_zps3751fc13.jpg]](http://s124.photobucket.com/user/jas1223/media/Maple0011_zps3751fc13.jpg.html)
Item Drops and Finds Version 2 - Post BB - 0^2 - 2013-04-15
babo Wrote:
whew from 1 book
nice morning surprise
Am I missing something? What's so special about an Advanced Enhancement scroll?
:f6:
Item Drops and Finds Version 2 - Post BB - poorbabyj - 2013-04-15
0^2 Wrote:Am I missing something? What's so special about an Advanced Enhancement scroll?"No chance of item being destroyed upon failure."
:f6:
Item Drops and Finds Version 2 - Post BB - Green4Ever - 2013-04-17
Literally a minute apart from each other. Don't mind if I do.
![[Image: 1zvrc0m.jpg]](http://oi48.tinypic.com/1zvrc0m.jpg)
Item Drops and Finds Version 2 - Post BB - CrazyForDex - 2013-04-17
[MENTION=6790]Green4Ever[/MENTION]; Mind if I ask what drop rate you were on?