Marksman Bryan Wrote:It was most likely deleted because I passed the 11th star on the 31st around noon EST (could be way off, but I just know it was 6hrs+ before the dupe was released).

All of the scrolls are 3-4 months+ old except for the one I personally got from a RED box philosopher book. I lent a friend three of the nobooms I had, and he used them to make a legit 15-star tyrant and his stuff wasn't touched, so there's no way in hell any of my scrolls were duped.

MCPV Wrote:It still amazes me why people put up with this game. Are the more persistent of you a bunch of whipped masochists?

A company takes away items that were worth hundreds (In real $ to make or hours to obtain), and people just react as if they were used to this and wait for the scraps of meagre compensation thrown at them.

ManxDrk Wrote:oh noes, all those RA gear you were going to get and sell overpricedly!

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Marksman Bryan Wrote:

tecul1 Wrote:That's a big insult IMO due to what they called you. There was a big hacker that went by that name some time ago...

Marksman Bryan Wrote:

I assume they're overwhelmed with tickets so they're closing them all with automated response. Expectation level still in the negatives.

wait a second.. it's only 5:50 pm pst right now.. how can this have been solved an hour in the future..?

Ruin3d Wrote:I confirmed with the Games Master team and in addition to the duped item investigation to removed hacked AEEs and other items in players inventories they also carried out an investigation into illegitimately upgraded items.

This means 15 star Tyrants and other items that were scrolled using hacked scrolls.

In terms of investigation the game team looked at the stats on a weapon prior to the item duplication hack and then the stats on it afterwards before digging into accounts in more detail to find out how many scrolls a player used and where they came from.

This investigation only covered the period of the hack 12/31 - 1/2 - So only items that were upgraded rapidly in this period were included.

Out of those items they then eliminated those that had less than 10 scrolling attempts. Finally they looked at what type of scrolls were used.

If a player met all these criteria the GMs investigated further and deleted the item if they found it to be illegitimate.

So to reiterate requirements to even get investigated:

-Happened to upgrade a high level item between 12/31 - 1/2
-Used over 10 No Boom AEE scrolls on the item (10 Billion mesos roughly pre-exploit)

Anyone with under 10 upgrades in that period was given the benefit of the doubt as a precaution.

Some of these players used over 1,000 scrolls on one account in that three day period to upgrade items.

In total these upgrades covered some 63,000 hacked No Boom AEE scrolls. That is what we would have left in the game if these items were not deleted.

Based on the above criteria they also happened to upgrade their items during a known hack, using at least a billion mesos worth of items which definitely stretches the odds of a freak accident.

I'm not in a position to say if an individual is guilty or not but i wanted to make players aware of the action taken and the sheer number of hacked scrolls some of these players used.

Any players who are really certain they are innocent please contact Customer Service here and they can address your questions.
http://support.nexon.net

We are not in a position to help you on the forums. I'm just sharing the info I have from Customer Services.

Kubi Wrote:I feel for you guys that lost your items due to Nexon's blunders... Wished they could've done a bit more digging to find out where the items really came from. Instead, they just took the easy way out on following a ridiculous set criteria. From the way they do things, they're really discouraging their legitimate players from spending money to upgrade their characters. I quit splurging on NX a long time ago, but it's instances like these that I'm glad I don't anymore.

Here's the response to what they did...
Link

Quote:-Happened to upgrade a high level item between 12/31 - 1/2
-Used over 10 No Boom AEE scrolls on the item (10 Billion mesos roughly pre-exploit)

DavyJonesx Wrote:I know enough people who used like 200 no booms on tyrants and didn't even get hell ban..
Are they just making this up??

Chilly Wrote:I don't care if a hacker used 10,000 No-Boom AEE, if he used 10,000 Guardian Scrolls then he should be let off Scott Free. "Hey, but he's a hacker, and he cheated!" The percentage of hackers that would use any NX, let alone one per each No-Boom AEE is so small that if a handful of people did it, that would be a price I would be willing to shoulder if it prevented dumb things like legitimate items from being deleted. I am not even talking about my piddly 7-9 No-Boom AEE here, it is just baffling how someone can hand money to Nexon and be told that they cheated. Yoink!

Niernen Wrote:Er... Besides the fact that there is probably no one that would buy 10,000 Guardian scrolls, hackers would just generate more scrolls and would not need to bother with guardians in the first place. Also, say someone hacked in 10,000 No-boom AEE, then bought a set of black cubes. I still think they should be banned, irregardless if they spent money. The ammount of money you spend should not give you any leniency if you actually hacked. But I do agree that their way of deciding which items to delete was clearly flawed. There are easier and more correct/effective ways of determining which items are legitimate or not. They really pineappleed this one up.

qtpie Wrote:I think what he means is that, if there is a person with 10000 aees for dirt cheap, then for the 100% of the times, they would not use guardian scrolls. Even if someone had 10000 aees, if they bought them at normal fm prices, then they would definitely still use guardian scrolls due to the value of the scroll itself. Since the latter condition is very unlikely, it is fairly safe and easier to just look at the nx history for purchase of guardian scrolls in terms of no boom aees.

Long explanation long, if you don't use couple aees along with guardian, it's most likely exploited. If you do use it, they may or may not be exploited, but they don't really affect others because the value is still held up(so in this case, you most likely bought 1~8 aees at cheap price or you bought them all at regular price).