[Complete] Unscheduled Server Maintenance - December 18, 2013

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[Complete] Unscheduled Server Maintenance - December 18, 2013 - dems - 2013-12-18

Lexxy Wrote:It's called a Free Market for a reason.

and that's fine. a free market doesn't require morality. pointing out immorality doesn't threaten the functions of the free market and i can't see why it's being criticized. if you believe it's moral, then fine, but why get so upset and vehement about someone saying they think it's immoral? do you really think it's morally correct if you're that up in arms about it? or is this just an excuse to create drama for yourself to enjoy? why do the opinions of people on the morality of an action mean so much to you/them?

and it's hardly a "good" deal. so i could what sell like 4 sets to all 2 of the night lords on gazed? i don't feel i missed out on anything rofl.

[Complete] Unscheduled Server Maintenance - December 18, 2013 - Lexxy - 2013-12-18

dems Wrote:and that's fine. a free market doesn't require morality. pointing out immorality doesn't threaten the functions of the free market and i can't see why it's being criticized. if you believe it's moral, then fine, but why get so upset and vehement about someone saying they think it's immoral? do you really think it's morally correct if you're that up in arms about it?

and it's hardly a "good" deal. so i could what sell like 4 sets to all 2 of the night lords on gazed? i don't feel i missed out on anything rofl.

I'm not up in arms about anything.
It's literally called a Free Market. I was just pointing out the fact.

[Complete] Unscheduled Server Maintenance - December 18, 2013 - danielcatu - 2013-12-18

I just got maple throwing stars because I always wanted to have a set when they were expensive

not even trying to sell them or anything lol... I they added oranges I would've been totally happy (they're not in game anymore right?...)

[Complete] Unscheduled Server Maintenance - December 18, 2013 - TrueBlitz - 2013-12-18

danielcatu Wrote:If they added oranges I would've been totally happy (they're not in game anymore right?...)

Nexon never removes items from the game, EVER. But the droprates, we don't know. I never seen an orange in the market before because they really aren't worth selling.

[Complete] Unscheduled Server Maintenance - December 18, 2013 - dems - 2013-12-18

emailbox Wrote:implying that preying on player ignorance is anything new by fm regulars

some people remain moral in the free market Sad

. just not many. gazed has a lot of moral fm hoes/merchers. we have a lot of immoral ones too but they kinda seem to stick with each other(saving a lot of people a lot of trouble). they've also lost almost all of their group to bans/moving on.

[Complete] Unscheduled Server Maintenance - December 18, 2013 - Elven Emily - 2013-12-18

TrueBlitz Wrote:Nexon never removes items from the game, EVER.

They did remove White Scrolls however.

[Complete] Unscheduled Server Maintenance - December 18, 2013 - YennoX - 2013-12-18

Lexxy Wrote:I'm not up in arms about anything.
It's literally called a Free Market. I was just pointing out the fact.

I know you're trying to be witty and all, but a 'free market' is nothing like what Maple is.

[Complete] Unscheduled Server Maintenance - December 18, 2013 - emailbox - 2013-12-18

dems Wrote:some people remain moral in the free market . just not many. gazed has a lot of moral fm hoes/merchers. we have a lot of immoral ones too but they kinda seem to stick with each other(saving a lot of people a lot of trouble). they've also lost almost all of their group to bans/moving on.

is it really moral then to buy something super underpriced because some guy never goes into the fm and got lucky with a gach ticket, then resell it for the normal price at 10x the cost? according to you it's not and no one should be doing it, but that's how the market works and has worked since forever. causing a stir because some guy jumped on a quick money opportunity is just silly.

[Complete] Unscheduled Server Maintenance - December 18, 2013 - TrueBlitz - 2013-12-18

Elven Emily Wrote:They did remove White Scrolls however.

Yeah, but they told you they're gonna remove those White Scrolls. Items never mysteriously vanquish in thin air (except expiring items of course).

[Complete] Unscheduled Server Maintenance - December 18, 2013 - Lexxy - 2013-12-18

YennoX Wrote:I know you're trying to be witty and all, but a 'free market' is nothing like what Maple is.

I'm not being witty at all, but mmk.

[Complete] Unscheduled Server Maintenance - December 18, 2013 - dems - 2013-12-18

emailbox Wrote:is it really moral then to buy something super underpriced because some guy never goes into the fm and got lucky with a gach ticket, then resell it for the normal price at 10x the cost? according to you it's not and no one should be doing it, but that's how the market works and has worked since forever. causing a stir because some guy jumped on a quick money opportunity is just silly.

the issue there is that most of those sales involve grooming. you LYING to him telling him it's not worth what it is. nowadays, it doesn't work like that. people can ask, check out, or put together it's value. in MOST cases where this STILL occurs it's taking advantage of a younger player by grooming him into believing it's worth less. there have been times where i have bought things for cheaper than they're worth with a happy seller, but it didn't involve grooming, lying, or deception. those sales happen, but those are not what i'm talking about. we have people who groom(ie: LIE) to children who get lucky to rip them off and sell it later. that's quite different then getting a deal and leaving a happy buyer regardless of the price/value.

[Complete] Unscheduled Server Maintenance - December 18, 2013 - Marksman Bryan - 2013-12-18

TrueBlitz Wrote:Yeah, but they told you they're gonna remove those White Scrolls. Items never mysteriously vanquish in thin air (except expiring items of course).

During the sengoku patch, tradeable heart cloud chairs were removed from data (well, I assumed they got overwritten or something but idk what actually happened). Luckily Girasol was still around and helped get them back.

also lol

dems Wrote:or is this just an excuse to create drama for yourself to enjoy?

[Complete] Unscheduled Server Maintenance - December 18, 2013 - Dark Link - 2013-12-18

Lexxy Wrote:I'm not being witty at all, but mmk.

Then explain how it's "literally a free market", because it's far from that wording.

[Complete] Unscheduled Server Maintenance - December 18, 2013 - Mazz - 2013-12-18

Marksman Bryan Wrote:also lol

gotta entertain themselves somehow I guess Rolleyes

Game has been down nearly 2 hours now, was hoping they'd post something or update the time but still nothing :|

[Complete] Unscheduled Server Maintenance - December 18, 2013 - dems - 2013-12-18

Marksman Bryan Wrote:also lol

the blind fanboyism runs strong in this one. but hey, they must be right, right?

[Complete] Unscheduled Server Maintenance - December 18, 2013 - emailbox - 2013-12-18

dems Wrote:the blind fanboyism runs strong in this one. but hey, they must be right, right?

let's be perfectly honest here; you're making a huge deal out of a tiny tiny event that happens probably hundreds of times in any relatively populated server. the only reason you're vocalizing your discontent is because someone explicitly came out and said "lol i did that". honestly if someone can afford to blow that much meso on THROWING STARS, then they should realistically be better informed about fm prices.

edit: nvm he got banned from the thread gg.

[Complete] Unscheduled Server Maintenance - December 18, 2013 - MountLag - 2013-12-18

[Complete] Unscheduled Server Maintenance - December 18, 2013 - Soulenite - 2013-12-18

dems Wrote:the blind fanboyism runs strong in this one. but hey, they must be right, right?

Sooner or later they'll know the truth. Or never if they're that blind. Rolleyes

[Complete] Unscheduled Server Maintenance - December 18, 2013 - Daakun - 2013-12-18

Two hours later, not even an expected end time yet.

This SHOULD be as easy as replacing a few numbers in a shop (takes all of 5 seconds to change a few numbers so they're bought for at least as much as they sell back for), making an NPC teleport you out of a map (might have to dig for the right NPC chat script to modify, but otherwise very simple), and shortening a list of rewards (also a 5 second fix).
Not sure how this is taking them so long unless they're actually going to deal with people that bought/npc'd stars for profit.

[Complete] Unscheduled Server Maintenance - December 18, 2013 - Blunderr - 2013-12-18

Daakun Wrote:Two hours later, not even an expected end time yet.

This SHOULD be as easy as replacing a few numbers in a shop (takes all of 5 seconds to change a few numbers so they're bought for at least as much as they sell back for), making an NPC teleport you out of a map (might have to dig for the right NPC chat script to modify, but otherwise very simple), and shortening a list of rewards (also a 5 second fix).
Not sure how this is taking them so long unless they're actually going to deal with people that bought/npc'd stars for profit.

I think it has more to do with them having to go through and individually pick apart every character that opened a Tyrant box, just to see which ones got Fafnirs by accident.