Lozmaster Wrote:Fairly sure that can't be right. Even lazy soabs like me were 120 before 4th job, and I would have known if I was within 1 level of the highest on a server. I'm sure fangblade was much, much closer to 200 than 140. 18x-19x sounds right to me.

Percy Bysshe Shelley Wrote:'And on the pedestal these words appear --
"My name is Ozymandias, king of kings:
Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!"
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare
The lone and level sands stretch far away.'

Lozmaster Wrote:Fairly sure that can't be right. Even lazy soabs like me were 120 before 4th job, and I would have known if I was within 1 level of the highest on a server. I'm sure fangblade was much, much closer to 200 than 140. 18x-19x sounds right to me.

byakugan Wrote:I am pretty sure he wasn't that close to 200 when 4th job came out. I remember NinjaGaru was the highest lvl in Scania when 4th job hit, and he was only 121, At best FangBlade must have been 140.

Liteness Wrote:who cares about rankings now, hackers are gonna be #1 first lol already saw some lvl 220s botting it up

FenixR Wrote:Yeah i wonder why people care so much about FangBlade... Or Ghandi, or Bob Marley, or Malcolm X or practically anyone in history that had some big achievement in their life, its like they care more about their achievement than they did.

And yes FangBlade achievement its a grain of salt compared to the other people i mentioned, but its still one and on NA MS Fangblade its our ghandi... sort of. All in all its history of this server, something that you can't simply scoff at just because.

Edit: And its something people who have been a long time in this game and have been following the achievement in progress, knows how to appreciate it.

iAmFear Wrote:I remember Skeles being better than Himes, and also Himes being out before Skeles. Anyway, it used to require 2,121,276,324 EXP, yeah?, to get from 199 to 200. Skelosaurus gave 4,750 EXP, though I don't even remember what it's called anymore, I want to say Peak of the Big Nest, but I'm pretty sure that's the map after, but the map we used to train in wasn't pure spawn, but assuming you were killing in a pure spawn map, you'd have to kill 446,585 Skeles in order to reach 200. With the EXP table we have from 200 to 250, assuming you're killing Golems solo, at level 229, it takes 445,546 Golems to get to 230, and then it just goes up from there, capping at 2,544,119 Golems to get from 249-250 (assuming there's no EXP penalty).

A few additional things:

First, we'd have to compare all levels, through time, assuming training at the best possible mob at whatever level at whatever time, accounting for the fact that probably won't be the most optimal mob, ever, at that level. I didn't pay attention to rankings very much, but I'm assuming FangBlade was way past 120 or whatever by the time we got Leafre, 4th job, and Skeles.

Second, following the first, we have to account for how quickly you could kill the mobs, Skeles had 85k HP, Golems have 89m. I don't know how many hits it took for most people to kill skeles, I was a bishop, so it was pretty much 4, then 3, then 2, then 1 hit ko, to up to 15 of them, like, every second and half. Now I do like, 1m per hit of Demon Cry to Golems with their attack buff up, which hits 6 times, so I take about 15 hits to kill them normally, 7.5 hits with Blue Blood on, half the time, so it averages out to around 11~12 hits to kill, not sure how that compares with everyone else (which makes me think I should maybe pay attention to other people more often).

As for how I feel about rankings, I guess I don't really care either way, in that, I don't really care whether or not they save the old rankings.

I can't really empathize with the people who want the old rankings saved in some manner, at least, not those who want it purely because FangBlade used to be #1, but now he's not. I get that it's nice, yeah, but I've never heard of a ranking system that was so stagnant, one where #1 was eternally guaranteed to the first person who got it. That's just not what rankings are. Rankings are supposed to be dynamic, they change, you don't keep number one forever, people are always given a chance to pass you, and you can defend your title if you so choose.

Saving the old rankings is kinda like, kinda rejecting the legitimacy of the new rankings, you know. "Oh, yeah, that other guy is #1 now, but if you look at the old rankings, the real #1 is that guy". It's not like people forget past versions of rankings, though, like, FangBlade isn't #1 anymore, but it's not like we forgot that, and hell we didn't forget Tiger used to be #1 either, and so on, but on what rankings does it list the top player, team, whatever, and then also have "But, before, so and so was #1" somewhere? They don't have to be there for us to remember, that, at some point, they used to be there.

As for saving the rankings purely so I can go back and see what rank I was, what I accomplished prior to the level cap raise, I guess I can empathize with that more, but still, I can't hang out to that forever. I mean, people, or teams, don't work really hard, then place on some rankings, then stop doing anything forever, yeah? They work and train every year in order to place again, and if they don't continue, then they're just... gone.

Well, I know everyone doesn't feel the same way, but I'm just throwing that out there.

Words Wrote:But that's a concept I cannot see fitting in a game like maplestory or any mmorpg that doesn't have some sort of big deal pvp, like WoW for example.

Derosis Wrote:I think anyone that got above 150 before EXPlosion should recieve a round of applause. Especially the archers pre-Leafre. You guys deserve a big one.

Locked Wrote:Fuck it I didn't want to post but I will anyway.

I think they should have separated the 200- rankings from the 201+ ones. I can't believe that they didn't do it; KMS did it so why couldn't they? Most of you guys don't understand the dedication and the achievement that went into place for those who were in the very top 20 in the entire GMS. I know of a couple of people in this forum such as myself and [MENTION=920]Pixie[/MENTION]; who were in the top 20, and while I cannot speak for them I know for a fact that this change makes me quite sad. It's one of the only things tying me back from my original achievement years ago. I know you guys can't understand it but God damn it it means a lot to me. Sure, 200 is piss easy now but back then it was one hell of an achievement and you should have seen the amount of uproar over someone reaching 200; Nowadays no one even bats an eye if someone hits 200 since it's become so common but back then it was a great thing. Multiple posts on Sleepywood and Basilmarket were made just to congratulate someone who made it in the top 10.

My ranking is quite literally the only achievement I have left in this game and I wanted it to stay in place. Sure, it's silly for some of you but to me and many others it actually means something.

FenixR Wrote:Yeah i wonder why people care so much about FangBlade... Or Ghandi, or Bob Marley, or Malcolm X or practically anyone in history that had some big achievement in their life, its like they care more about their achievement than they did.

And yes FangBlade achievement its a grain of salt compared to the other people i mentioned, but its still one and on NA MS Fangblade its our ghandi... sort of. All in all its history of this server, something that you can't simply scoff at just because.

Edit: And its something people who have been a long time in this game and have been following the achievement in progress, knows how to appreciate it.