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Getting Ahead of Myself: Thoughts on the Third Archer Explorer & Thief Resistance - DarkXDaisuke - 2012-01-17

I thought I heard that demon slayer was the last of the resistance members in a press release O.o


Getting Ahead of Myself: Thoughts on the Third Archer Explorer & Thief Resistance - Clamors - 2012-01-17

DarkXDaisuke Wrote:I thought I heard that demon slayer was the last of the resistance members in a press release O.o

Well, Claudine is the resistance thief instructor (I noticed it was mentioned in one of the early level Demon Slayer quests) so I can't see how accurate that press release is unless they changed their mind randomly lol.


Getting Ahead of Myself: Thoughts on the Third Archer Explorer & Thief Resistance - Grey - 2012-01-17

Clamors Wrote:Well, Claudine is the resistance thief instructor (I noticed it was mentioned in one of the early level Demon Slayer quests) so I can't see how accurate that press release is unless they changed their mind randomly lol.

Well, she's been mentioned as the resistance thief instructor, and Elex as the resistance warrior instructor, since the Resistance came out, in the early quests, so it's not like they suddenly changed it when Demon Slayer came out.


Getting Ahead of Myself: Thoughts on the Third Archer Explorer & Thief Resistance - Clamors - 2012-01-17

iAmFear Wrote:Well, she's been mentioned as the resistance thief instructor, and Elex as the resistance warrior instructor, since the Resistance came out, in the early quests, so it's not like they suddenly changed it when Demon Slayer came out.

yeah I know, just saying I first noticed it when reading the quest dialog on my DS...i wasn't saying they changed their mind about making them job instructors, it was in reference to simply not adding another resistance class.


Getting Ahead of Myself: Thoughts on the Third Archer Explorer & Thief Resistance - LegendGospel - 2012-01-17

Viaje Wrote:Anyone who doesn't realize that Cygnus exist for the express purpose of being a class for beginners, now having the added ability to transition directly to an Adventurer, is fooling themselves if they believe this will ever change.

Because Nexon has never revamped content.

Oh, wait.

Yeah, when they run out of jobs they could perfectly decide to make a "Cygnus Strikeback!" patch or some crap like that, in which Cygnus catch up with the other jobs in terms of power. More levels, new skills, new storyline, etc.

Saying something will never change in Maple Story is ridiculous, it has to be one of the most ever-changing online games.

And just for note, I don't see how Cygnus Knights are "easy" or "beginner" mode now, having jobs like Mercedes and Demon Slayer which level way faster, are more powerful, and consume less pots.


Getting Ahead of Myself: Thoughts on the Third Archer Explorer & Thief Resistance - The Great One - 2012-01-17

LegendGospel Wrote:Because Nexon has never revamped content.

Oh, wait.

Yeah, when they run out of jobs they could perfectly decide to make a "Cygnus Strikeback!" patch or some crap like that, in which Cygnus catch up with the other jobs in terms of power. More levels, new skills, new storyline, etc.

Saying something will never change in Maple Story is ridiculous, it has to be one of the most ever-changing online games.

And just for note, I don't see how Cygnus Knights are "easy" or "beginner" mode now, having jobs like Mercedes and Demon Slayer which level way faster, are more powerful, and consume less pots.

Story wise they are done the whole making the UA pact with explorers was more of we knights have failed in our job you all take over. There is nothing left for them to do. Game wise as well they are a beginner class a demo of what the explorers can do once you finish that you make the real version of the class.


Getting Ahead of Myself: Thoughts on the Third Archer Explorer & Thief Resistance - Luxeraph - 2012-01-17

LegendGospel Wrote:Yeah, when they run out of jobs they could perfectly decide to make a "Cygnus Strikeback!" patch or some crap like that, in which Cygnus catch up with the other jobs in terms of power. More levels, new skills, new storyline, etc.
And since we know Nexon is nice to us and not money hungry at all they will just change the existing knights to be able to get to level 200 instead of just making a whole new Cygnus knights./sarcasm


Getting Ahead of Myself: Thoughts on the Third Archer Explorer & Thief Resistance - LegendGospel - 2012-01-17

Luxeraph Wrote:instead of just making a whole new Cygnus knights.

That's a pretty cool idea, yet another cooler re-invention of the main 5 jobs, but as a new organization specially dedicated to fight against the Black Mage.

They could call it "The Resistance".


I don't see what's so farfetched about revamping Cygnus Knights, greedyness? Then why did Thieves and Pirates got completely revamped? Or Victoria's quests completely revamped? There are reasons to update the game other than add new cash inventories, keeping the players hooked and making things fresh brings money too.


Getting Ahead of Myself: Thoughts on the Third Archer Explorer & Thief Resistance - CarrionCrow - 2012-01-17

LegendGospel Wrote:I don't see what's so farfetched about revamping Cygnus Knights, greedyness? Then why did Thieves and Pirates got completely revamped? Or Victoria's quests completely revamped? There are reasons to update the game other than add new cash inventories, keeping the players hooked and making things fresh brings money too.

Because Cygnus Knights fill a small niche and does it perfectly. There is no point, non, to change them unless their normal counterparts change. They will never become a viable main because they are simply not made to be. Just accept that they are there for story and enpowerment for the rest of you account. If you like, say a Blaze wizard, make an UA F/P Archmage. Simple.


Getting Ahead of Myself: Thoughts on the Third Archer Explorer & Thief Resistance - Alloy - 2012-01-17

Dark Link Wrote:>120 Force Shield

Still can't equip, still can't scroll, still can't trade.

Yes, potential, but didn't mention it in the first place. For all it's worth, it acts like a passive skill, only in the wrong window.


Getting Ahead of Myself: Thoughts on the Third Archer Explorer & Thief Resistance - ShadeCaro - 2012-01-17

I was thinking of a Archer Explorer using a Rifle, and standing from back while shooting. Kind of odd, but it could work. What name though?


Getting Ahead of Myself: Thoughts on the Third Archer Explorer & Thief Resistance - McAwesomesauce - 2012-01-17

ShadeCaro Wrote:I was thinking of a Archer Explorer using a Rifle, and standing from back while shooting. Kind of odd, but it could work. What name though?

I think you guys are getting away from the idea that, by definition, archers use arrows.


Getting Ahead of Myself: Thoughts on the Third Archer Explorer & Thief Resistance - byakugan - 2012-01-17

CarrionCrow Wrote:Because Cygnus Knights fill a small niche and does it perfectly. There is no point, non, to change them unless their normal counterparts change. They will never become a viable main because they are simply not made to be. Just accept that they are there for story and enpowerment for the rest of you account. If you like, say a Blaze wizard, make an UA F/P Archmage. Simple.

You just sounds as if you're afraid that if Cygnus knights were changed, you would lose the empress bless skill for your characters. There is no reason for it, yes, but there's never been a reason to create most of the new content. Was there a need to create the whole resistance? No. was it even necessary to create Pirates? not really. They just do it to keep the game 'fresh'. Previous to big bang the Cygnus knights played a perfect role as an easy branch that served to introduce new players to the game, but currently that role is over as most adventurers, legends and the whole resistance is as easy if not easier to play. They add nothing special that explains the structure of the game other than storyline, and that can be done very well by other jobs (I know Aran and Evan can).

As for the "we knights sux, we leave the world in the hands of you adventurers", I'd like to read proof of this from in game quests because all I ever read of this was that introduction tale of Future henesys in MS's main site. If that whole world was a dream so could have been that scene, and even if it was in-game it just takes to release a new quest that says "we've found a way to get stronger and help our comrades on fighting the black mage forces".


Getting Ahead of Myself: Thoughts on the Third Archer Explorer & Thief Resistance - RedRaven16 - 2012-01-17

byakugan Wrote:You just sounds as if you're afraid that if Cygnus knights were changed, you would lose the empress bless skill for your characters. There is no reason for it, yes, but there's never been a reason to create most of the new content. Was there a need to create the whole resistance? No. was it even necessary to create Pirates? not really. They just do it to keep the game 'fresh'. Previous to big bang the Cygnus knights played a perfect role as an easy branch that served to introduce new players to the game, but currently that role is over as most adventurers, legends and the whole resistance is as easy if not easier to play. They add nothing special that explains the structure of the game other than storyline, and that can be done very well by other jobs (I know Aran and Evan can).

As for the "we knights sux, we leave the world in the hands of you adventurers", I'd like to read proof of this from in game quests because all I ever read this from was that introduction tale in MS main site before they released Future Henesys. If that whole world was a dream so could have been that scene, and even if it was ingame it just takes to release a new quest that says "we've found a way to get stronger and help our comrades take on the black mage forces".

How the hell does only have to get 90% exp to level NOT easier? CK are still easymode


Getting Ahead of Myself: Thoughts on the Third Archer Explorer & Thief Resistance - byakugan - 2012-01-17

RedRaven16 Wrote:How the hell does only have to get 90% exp to level NOT easier? CK are still easymode

I will give you that one, I forgot about it. I didn't say they are not easy, I said other jobs are as easy if not easier. From lvl 1 to 100, that 10% extra exp represents from 1 to 10 mins of extra training. ME doesn't consider that so big of a deal. However I do consider flying through the map and climbing ropes as if you've got a rocket up the ass a big advantage.


Getting Ahead of Myself: Thoughts on the Third Archer Explorer & Thief Resistance - Dudewitbow - 2012-01-17

byakugan Wrote:I will give you that one, I forgot about it. I didn't say they are not easy, I said other jobs are as easy if not easier. From lvl 1 to 100, that 10% extra exp represents from 1 to 10 mins of extra training. ME doesn't consider that so big of a deal. However I do consider flying through the map and climbing ropes as if you've got a rocket up the ass a big advantage.

your supposed to compare the cygnus knights to their counter parts, not mercedes. for instance, both saders and DW get breandish, combo, panic and coma. but as a cygnus knight, you also get the benefit of holy charge, which gives more % damage that a sader did't get. after you hit 100 and 110, the cygnus knight of course is even better than its original counterpart until it hits its cap of 120, which is the limit of its potential. they also of course have more ap stats



i want to see an adventurer rocket up ladders.


Getting Ahead of Myself: Thoughts on the Third Archer Explorer & Thief Resistance - LegendGospel - 2012-01-18

Dudewitbow Wrote:i want to see an adventurer rocket up ladders.

Corsair post-Justice doesn't even need to climb them, they just get hax platform jump like DS/Mechs.


Getting Ahead of Myself: Thoughts on the Third Archer Explorer & Thief Resistance - Luxeraph - 2012-01-18

LegendGospel Wrote:Corsair post-Justice doesn't even need to climb them, they just get hax platform jump like Cannoneers/Mechs.
Fixed.


Getting Ahead of Myself: Thoughts on the Third Archer Explorer & Thief Resistance - Dudewitbow - 2012-01-18

LegendGospel Wrote:Corsair post-Justice doesn't even need to climb them, they just get hax platform jump like DS/Mechs.

although it answers my question, corsairs itself do not have a form of a Knight of Cygnus


Getting Ahead of Myself: Thoughts on the Third Archer Explorer & Thief Resistance - ElTwice - 2012-01-18

Mercedes this and demon slayers that, on kms you can't make one right now and who knows when you can re-make them, stop using the mercedes and demons are quite fast for a cyggy knight, maybe (and prolly) they will be stay 100% here on gms but on korea there's no need to upgrade them (cyggy knights).